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MysteryKat25Participant
I’m inclined to believe it simply for the fact that the candle worked. The name of the person had to be said over their heart and then the heart had to be inside the body (if it wasn’t already). The fact that Snow said the name “Cora” over the heart and that when a heart was put back inside Cora it instantly healed Rumple I would have to believe that it was in fact her heart and that she is now dead.
I can see where you’re coming from but the last time Cora was “dead” she simply didn’t have her heart inside her so it was easy for her to trick Regina with Hook’s help.
I really do think she’s gone this time and had a nice moment with her daughter and Rumple in the end. The fact that she did seem to have that moment of clarity also seems to point to it definitely being her heart, simply because anybody else that has been brought back with the wrong heart hasn’t come back to their normal selves. Aurora & Cora seem to be themselves whereas Daniel came back “wrong.”
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MysteryKat25ParticipantWell #DarkSnow makes sense to anybody having seen last week’s ep so that one I can get on board with. Can always use it in a way that’s simple like…time to see if we’re going to see more of #DarkSnow tonight on #OUAT…that participates without telling a major plot point. Kinda like how mentioning the beanstalk for tallahassee wasn’t a surprise because they said at the end of the doctor they were going to have to climb the beanstalk to get the compass. Anything that was already set in place as “this is where we have to go next” is fair game I would think.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantOoo thanks for the twitter numbers Nonnie!
I never know how that stuff all works, I just know I’d tweet about it more if they hadn’t chosen such a spoilery hashtag! I’d hope people would be away from their computers / phones but I know this week especially the twitter stuff was going on for hoursss ahead of time with last minute teases and such so people were still spoiled I bet (some don’t like titles and promos, let along seeing anything tagged OUAT mention #OneWillDie!)
Hopefully they use better ones in the future so that more people DO get involved in as non-spoilery a way as possible. I’d like to think that in this day and age they’d take twitter stuff into account somewhat (not everybody uses it obviously but it should count for something) and frankly the Nielson boxes are outdated and they know this, they just haven’t found a way to change it. They look at DVR numbers and I’m sure at the hulu / abc.com numbers too more than likely, it’s just still a very rough system and it always looks so dire when you see the ratings! I’m pretty sure more people watch than they are aware of: especially if families are watching together for a show like Once Upon A Time.
Ooo are they changing things this fall?? I hadn’t heard about that…in that case they better have some awesome hashtags that relate but aren’t spoilery (Fringe was awesome at that, we used them but never knew what they meant til the episode aired).
To think of all the wonderful shows that may have survived instead of the trash they’re replaced with all because of an outdated system *sigh*. Here’s hoping it skyrockets OUAT ratings in the future!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantLove it PriceofMagic!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantThe wording on the entire thing is very interesting. Possibly misleading to Bae of course but very accurate nonetheless. I especially like the part where she says this (even though the idea hasn’t come up yet from Rumple, the irony is amusing:
@thedarkjuan wrote:
Blue Fairy: In this world, yes. You see, what ails your father is specific to our realm. His powers do not belong here. You must go where you can escape this wretched curse.
I also love that you highlighted the “follow wherever it leads you” part. Can’t wait til we actually get to see the moments after Rumple lets go from Bae’s point of view.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantSometimes saying something isn’t going to happen CAN be a spoiler. If somebody wants to theorize that something is possible and then everybody is saying no it’s not because they said it’s not gonna happen it’s frustrating. It also messes up theories that prove true by saying it must be wrong because we were told this isn’t gonna happen and sometimes they’re sneaky we weren't gonna see Henry's dad last year but we did see Bae; we're not supposed to see Peter Pan this year but it doesn't rule out he's someone we've already met etc, just won't be identified in such terms. Nothing more frustrating than having to repeatedly explain this is how they tease stuff and it’s not definitive proof that a theory is wrong. Rule nothing out until absolutely necessary!
That being said regarding the BF thing I think they might have gotten a kick out of everybody assuming she was bad but they eventually got to the point where they felt like they needed to defend her: I remember an official podcast where they said she was good and she was mother superior because it put her in a position where she was trying to help people still and couldn't and that was her curse – something along those lines
It’s why if you see me in the live-chats I get so frustrated with people just saying “that’s not gonna happen” whether they know it or not just because they don’t like the theory. No need to kill it off for the rest of the people that want to theorize. (Sometimes they do in fact know because they see more spoilers than I do but in that case they really shouldn’t say anything cause I can see where definitively saying they’ve said it’s not gonna happen is a spoiler to some and sometimes the word spoiler doesn’t mean telling, it literally means ruin that type of fun of guessing without knowing anything other than what we’ve seen so far. It’s a very fine line and that goes for questions answered on twitter as well.)
Back to ratings: hopefully having a chance to live-tweet with some of the cast and writers draws in ratings. I know I rewatched the DVR when the west coast aired just to see what they were saying (and the actors are fun to watch interact, even on twitter) in order to make sense of their comments so that hopefully helped with not only live-viewing but DVR numbers as well (at least for those who saw it in earlier time zones). I haven’t seen adjusted numbers for this episode but I really hope that was the case.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantYeah I think I was mostly thinking of the Jane stuff. I think the actors try harder to keep things close to the vest as possible just for fear of saying the wrong thing but they answer what they can and ignore the rest probably.
The Jane stuff confused me just because she was answering it sooo early in the episode without letting the episode play out. That’s the beauty and danger of letting a writer do the live-tweet I guess. (Confused as in not the answers but the fact she was doing that). I love her pre-episode interviews that are more teasing (much like H&K) but not so much the mid-episode stuff when it’s things that are answered in that episode. It would have made much more sense for her to say keep watching and then clarify after the episode ran for any that were still confused. Either way there’s at least the danger of that.
As for other things not episode specific sometimes it’s nice to get confirmation even if it does kill theories. (Some people get upset when anything is given positive or negative and I get that but at that point it’s not killing off a kneejerk reaction at the start of an episode that kills suspense for later in the episode. Sometimes like with the BF thing, it’s asking for clarification given the impression some have had over time and gives a new direction to theorize.)
I guess that’s the distinction I’m making…instant theory-killers within the same episode that detract from enjoying watching it play out right now vs in general clarification things about the past: notice they don’t instantly say not to think so and so might be this or that, they just clarify things we’ve seen where some stuff may have landed on the cutting room floor. The rest of the time they just tease with things like “I’d be upset if we never learned this or that.”
I absolutely love theorizing and sometimes things are helpful to steer us in the right direction, just not mid-episode when the answer will be revealed if you’re paying attention. Sometimes theorizing about stuff even if you’re dead wrong prepares you for when you do eventually see a character you thought was somebody else, or takes you off on a tangent that eventually leads you back to something that does make sense and might actually happen.
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MysteryKat25Participant@Phee wrote:
@Sarah_TN wrote:
Colin O’Donoghue didn’t tweet. He might have been filming yeah, but I think he should have at least supported his fellow cast members. Just because he wasn’t in it, didn’t mean it should have been an irrelevant issue. Raphael Sbarge tweeted during that time slot, and he wasn’t it in it either. I thought his doing that showed a lot of good sportsmanship on his part. After all, they all play for the same team!
We don’t even know if he’s in Vancouver right now. If he’s back in Ireland, it would have been about 3am when the show was airing.
Agreed, he might have been in Ireland and asleep by then. If Colin had been tweeting people would have asked him about Hook’s reaction to things and that’s something I bet we’re gonna see eventually so what would have been said? “Keep watching”?? There were many other cast members who tweet a lot too who were not involved in the official live chat.
This is the first one they’ve done in a long time but usually they each take episodes they’re in so they have something to address. Was surprised to see so many of them tweeting this one but I think part of it was to throw us off the trail (like having Meghan do one and make us worry about her). More than enough people to follow all at once while watching, didn’t need the entire cast of the show or we’d never know what was going on!
Hopefully they’ll switch off and perhaps Colin and a few others will do one for a different episode. The live-chats help bring in live viewers and they may want to spread them out a bit / not have the same people do them all the time. Also it depends on where the actors are at the time: they all tweeted the West Coast airing because that’s the only feed they could get so even if Colin wanted to tweet, if he were home in Ireland or something he wouldn’t have matched up with any viewing of it here.
I love Colin as much as the next person but the “he’s not tweeting” thing (way overdone on this board) is a bit inaccurate…he tweets when he has time, he’s very good to the fans and he shares a lot of pictures of him and Lee Arenberg (Grumpy!) hanging out so he must be around there sometimes (hopefully healing up so Hook can come back in full force!)
True Keegan wasn’t in the episode and tweeted some but she may usually do that. Some people are more dedicated to watching and interacting than others and by not being in the episode she had nothing to worry about spoiling / answering since the focus was on the announced people answering questions who were in the episode.
I know if I were in their shoes I’d be afraid to answer anything for fear of killing somebody’s theory or giving them something to read into that doesn’t mean anything. Live-tweets are great for getting buzz and interacting with various cast members and writers but they can occasionally be instant theory-killers. It’s a double-edged sword. Hopefully it helped in the ratings though.
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MysteryKat25Participant@sjm wrote:
Pancakes would also be snow/charming since he was making them for her birthday, and did we get a recipe for NY pizza?
You’re right! *goes to add it*
I’m hoping to do a rewatch and take note of more of these over the next break to get the list completely up to date but I was so mesmerized by a new episode I totally forgot about it!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantInteresting idea but for now at least I’d be surprised if they did that simply because any good ideas can be tucked away for future use elsewhere whether it’s a line or a brief scene, they may need it someday to tell a bigger story. That would be my guess (though I wouldn’t be opposed to more new content over the summer!)
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