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Just found this gifset on tumblr & it really struck me so wanted to share! Gifs aren’t mine nor is the gifset – just my take on each scenario! I reblogged the original. (Edited to add – I reblogged the original & then did a separate meta with a link back to it so as not to hijack it. Same thing as here though.)
Emma has either known of and/or actually seen all of these guys alone at Granny’s & has a different reaction in each case.
Graham – she declines when she thinks he flirting by returning the cocoa (which was actually sent by Henry) & is not amused because she’s “not here to flirt”; so basically she thinks he’s offering her a drink, she declines
August – she doesn’t trust and is highly suspicious of but finally sits down to talk to in order to get information because she knows he was hanging around Henry; he asks her to share a drink & she wants to decline but uses it as a bargaining chip
Neal – she knows he will be there and doesn’t show up though almost gets dragged there by Charming after asking him if he’s trying to keep her “away from Hook”; he wants a date and leaves it up in the air with show or no show and she chooses not to show up, knowing what that would look/feel like cause she’s been there
Killian – she not only sends him her drink of choice (a reversal of him always offering her rum) but actively tries to get him to lighten up, is “open and playful” (Jane’s words), and is herself (and smiling/giggling to boot!); she’s there spending time alone with him embracing her magic and trying to cheer him up and is actually sending HIM a drink instead of declining/only going along for information/outright not showing up.
Basically we’ve seen her in many situations where a drink is offered to her and she usually turns it down before and then eventually welcomes it (but has taken MANY from/with Killian at this point), and now we have seen all of these men sitting alone at Granny’s & how she reacted to each of them (hint – one of these is not like the others…)
PS: I love how, after so many times that he’s tried to cheer her up with his favorite drink, she’s now returning the favor with hers!
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They always say things like that. It’s annoying cause it feels like they’re placating people who are going to hate it but technically “right now” and “might change soon” still come into play so I think it will pay off and soon. It’s just another way of emphasizing that she’s kinda preoccupied with learning her magic and defeating Zelena.
Jane is MUCH more open with how things should be interpreted and always has been (and her tweets lately have been very good for us for sure).
I agree though – it’s rather annoying when it’s been made somewhat obvious as well as the writer of the episode who knows what they’re supposed to be working with is telling us that she’s “open and playful” but perhaps that isn’t 100% fully want to kiss “right now” but it’s still an important evolution because she’s the one cheering him up and focusing on his feelings for once instead of just the other way around – we need them to meet halfway.
We saw this a TON in Season 1 where she was finally opening up to and obviously caring about Henry without fully realizing/accepting what that actually meant for her until she was under duress with him being under the sleeping curse. I’m basically expecting something major to finally get her to crack – it’s just who she is and she doesn’t tell people how she feels until it’s close to too late because those are the moments that really show you what matters – when you’re about to lose something.
I had to laugh earlier, I was seeing a ton of stuff about how it doesn’t count if bigger forces make you realize how you feel. Ok then so….Emma doesn’t love Henry? Doesn’t call Snow & Charming “Mom and Dad” only when they think they’re all about to die? The big “romantic” goodbye before Neal’s “death” (which was drastically different the second time around) etc etc. It just baffles me, given that that’s Emma’s M.O. basically. She suppresses everything, focuses on the bigger picture, lets people in slowly but surely, and doesn’t realize just how much she cares until it’s almost too late even though we see bits and pieces of that along the way.
Same with TLK – it doesn’t matter WHAT the circumstances are because if it’s TLK – by definition it’s TL. We’ve seen LOTS of TL couples kiss with nothing happening. But when it needs to break something? How is that a bad TLK? That’s…kinda the point of it? Even being orchestrated by Zelena (who is looking more and more like Kathy Bates in Misery), that’s how TLK works! It’s there to break a curse. Is it ideal? Of course not. It’s annoying and she’s evil. Is it plot-devicey? Depends on who you ask. I’d love for Emma to just be open to Killian and go kiss him without being prodded in that direction by yet another villain (they seriously have it out for CS and they all try to keep them apart!), but would that be a proven TLK if they did? Not so much – it would be a kiss and, like the last time, we’d never hear the end of how it doesn’t matter etc etc. But a TLK? It doesn’t matter the circumstances because if it works? It works. It’s TL. (For goodness sakes, Snowing’s first kiss ever as far as we can tell from the timeline was a failed TLK attempt followed by a real kiss and then much later proven as TL.)
So if the kiss is because of Zelena threatening everyone, especially Henry (looking more and more likely) will it be frustrating? Absolutely. We’re hoping that a TLK breaks the kissing curse but since we have no idea how a TLK affects a curse that is in itself a kiss? We have nothing to go on like we did with the memory curses. We have no way of knowing if it can break that kind of curse until we see what happens. I know what we’re hoping for, but we just don’t know until we get there. I hope it does break it and surprise Zelena just because it would be even more heartbreaking for Hook to think once again that it failed, and for Emma to lose her magic would be dreadful, but we just don’t know. Have to wait and see.
Given earlier guesses in the season, especially based on S1, I would have much preferred to see Emma have a wake-up call like she did with Henry, and I’m still somewhat wondering if we’ll get that in some way. This is one of those cases where we love one idea and get attached but we have to wait and see. I don’t like Zelena at all and I’m furious with her stupid attempt to keep them apart (the villains have done more than their fair share already, grr), and I could see her finding out and just doing it to save Henry etc and that’s definitely not how I want another kiss to go, but we’ll have to see how it plays out if that’s what happens.Only a handful of episodes left this season but I feel optimistic about where we’ll end up. Now it’s just about finding out the little stops along the way. They’ve built up way too much for it to crash and burn now, especially over Zelena. In a way it’s forcing Hook to take a step back and for Emma to be the one who’s trying to get to the bottom of things and figure out why he’s upset and trying to cheer him up. I love that she tried to send him the drink since that’s kind of their thing (he always shares or tries to share his rum with her, and cocoa with cinnamon is her family’s drink). It shows that she cares too which is nice since some people still see to think she hates him or something.
Evil evil sneak! Stop tying him up and torturing him! Reminds me of the “fun way” he was supposed to be brought back into the story in S2 – A&E have a different version of “fun” than we do apparently. And I’m STILL waiting on “the fun to begin” but I imagine that will likely be more S4 once other big events have happened. After all Emma is a tough nut to crack and they’ve said repeatedly she needs someone to persistently show her that they’re not going anywhere and is different from what she’s dealt with in the past and he’s doing that. From someone who has trust issues, that’s what it takes, especially when you expect them to just leave or betray you no matter how much you want to believe they won’t. It HAS been a slow burn and we probably have a bit more to go, even if a TLK were to work sometime soon. I don’t see Emma just accepting that 100% and turning all lovey-dovey. She needs time to process everything as usual and bigger things are happening. It should make for some cute moments though once her TL is proven regardless and it’s nice to see Emma smile and be playful that’s for sure! Now if we could just get Zelena to stop threatening Henry! GRR!
Quite often, especially in fairy tale stories like the ones we’ve seen, couples are bonded over their adventures / common enemies etc. We’ve seen CaptainSwan make “quite the team” repeatedly and each villain they overtake only brings them closer together. The stakes are higher and definitely inconvenient, especially when you’re always focusing on the mission, but knowing that the person you’re with has your back every time no matter what and under HORRIBLE circumstances, especially when villains are offering them the easy way out (like Pan did with Hook) and they’re not taking it? THAT BUILDS TRUST. And trust is a big part of CaptainSwan, and has been building exponentially this season – something she’s never quite managed to have in the past due to circumstances outside her control (the greater good, the Walsh guard monkey etc) but she’s relying on Killian and her actions show that. Now it’s just a matter of getting her to realize what exactly that means, just like with Henry in S1.
Edited for weird coding issues. Anybody else have that problem? I don’t even know what some of it stands for and certainly didn’t try to code any of it outside of mild spoilery stuff!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
It was saying Connection Timed Out and Website Is Offline (even though the rest of the site was working). Just saw this & wanted to add it in case it helps in the future should it happen again *knocks on wood it doesn’t*
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Interesting points! I definitely noticed that Glinda looks a LOT like Emma but hadn’t connected that back to how much Hook looked like Black Beard (which is why we thought they were related originally). It’s VERY interesting, especially given 3×14 with both Rapunzel and Charming having to face “themselves” or rather their fears manifested as versions of themselves. Love how everything is tying together.
I completely agree that it only helps going forward and I’m curious about next week for sure. We saw this week that Emma’s magic is white (when we saw the cocoa move) as opposed to the various shades of purple, blue, green, etc we’ve seen a lot of, and in the promo, a bright white light is on Zelena’s face as she holds Henry captive. I’m not sure if that is good, like Emma using her power and stopping her….or bad as in she learns about the kissing curse and with Henry in danger she gives it up. I feel like it has to come into play sometime though I would prefer TLK to break it but not sure if it’s like a memory curse or not – kinda hard to break a kiss curse with a kiss I would imagine. Sigh. Plus there’s the um, general thought that Henry will be turned into a monkey after this so not sure how to reconcile that with the bright white light that is possibly Emma’s magic either. SO MUCH going on next week, can’t wait to see how it plays out.
I love that she’s finally embracing that side of her and she seems SO HAPPY that she’s able to do this stuff, like she’s finally…herself. The pieces are slowly but surely coming together and she’s finding and embracing who she is / was always supposed to be. Stupid kissing curse!
Love Jane’s tweets. She’s been with us practically from the start with how beautifully the beanstalk adventure was and what it set up so long ago. (I distinctly remember Jane & Christine tweets promoting “Hooka” and “Hemma” at the time that aired, LOL! So glad we fixed the name….) But yeah, she’s been so good to us and even though this episode was written with Daniel & not Christine, there were still the awesome little moments we’ve come to expect (and seriously – she does some of the best character development on the show and this episode was no exception for so many characters!)
Love that they had those little moments showing just how comfortable Emma is around him. They were alone late at night at Granny’s, he was part of the group when he really didn’t have to be which was awesome to see him included and “like family” etc. Emma knows something’s wrong but he isn’t completely backing away either, he’s still fighting by her side even though it pains him. Had it just been dinner again he would have begged off likely but it was a group pow-wow to take down the witch and he’s more invested in that than ever.
Love how she pulled his wrist to her. Poor thing pulled it back slightly before she did that but it was comforting/reassuring seeing her embrace it. He could easily be self-conscious about it at times like that, but she accepts that as part of him and doesn’t care, which is beautiful.
Another thought on the hand on the back thing (besides how painful it was to see how natural it felt for him to do that before doing the classic pull back at the last second cause you don’t technically have a title that allows for that sort of thing move a la Darcy and Kristoff lol). When she looks at him, it’s hard to read and can therefore be interpreted a million different ways (and likely already has) but she doesn’t seem bothered by it. In fact she might think that he’s finally out of his weird funk since he was close again and it goes from “oh maybe he’s ok now cause he’s trying to touch me – never mind oh well” and then they leave and go to the diner alone together. (Interesting since Charming had nowhere to be and didn’t even try to tag along and keep an eye on them. Granted both are staying at Granny’s so he may have made sure they got back there safely and then gone home himself and they obviously went to get him after Belle came and got them.)
But that moment definitely didn’t seem weird to me. It was more painful watching how much he wanted to reach out and felt the need to do so and was unable to. He’s staying close-by to help but keeping his distance emotionally and she’s definitely seeing that. I’m sure she expected it to be easy once she told him she didn’t care what happened in the last year and now he’s got this whole new thing wearing him down. Hope it’s sorted out soon!
Though I do love Emma having to break down his walls a bit instead of the other way around. I think a lot of people say it’s one-sided because we mostly see Hook’s reactions to Emma things, not the other way around. The biggest thing we’ve seen from her is not reacting well to Tink at first, both in NL and again in SB when she thought something was going on with Hook and took the time to be jealous instead of running down the street to save Blue. So it’s a nice change to watch her work on his walls and meet him halfway. They make quite the team and are equals, they need to show that in their feelings as well and Emma is FINALLY to the point where she wants to be happy and is tired of living in the doom and gloom that her life has been up to this point. Other than Walsh she’s never had a long-term relationship and has a lot of scars from various short-term things over the years. She’s afraid because Killian is clearly offering her the real deal and after everything he’s done, she’s finally learning to accept that it’s real instead of assuming he’s like every other guy. So refreshing!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Just wrote a meta on tumblr about Emma’s magic in this episode (can be found here: Emma’s Magic in 3×18), but I love that Emma had to concentrate SO HARD on sending the hot chocolate across the diner to land on Killian’s book and was so excited when she accomplished it, and then changed to being super sure of herself for her second trick. She even prefaced it with “Wanna see something really impressive?” and was flirty and clearly pleased with herself.
It’s the hook trick that is the most interesting though. She couldn’t even SEE the hook like she could with the cocoa (the hook was out of sight), and she whisked it away INSTANTLY to behind her on the coat rack without closing her eyes, or concentrating/squinting at it like she usually does.
She literally went from *intense concentration magic* to a very similar thing (moving an object across the room to somewhere behind her she couldn’t see) KNOWING she could do it ahead of time and not even blinking while she did it. She just owned it completely and was sure of herself.
That broke my heart a little because she was so open and flirty and HAPPY and so pleased with herself and her accomplishments in moving the objects across the room but it obviously pained Killian to see it. He’s watching her finally embrace that side of herself (which he encouraged) and he’d usually be the FIRST in line to tell her how awesome that was and how amazing she is. So glad she knows something’s off and that they’ll have to talk about it eventually. She knows that he would be excited for her so she’s genuinely confused as to why he’s not remotely acting like he normally would, but I really love just how sure of herself she is with her magic when she sees Hook beforehand. (I discussed this a bit more in the bigger meta.)
Had to laugh when she said BOOM though (would definitely NOT have been my choice) but she was just SO EXCITED and finally making things happen (and then of course being super confident and not having to work half as hard or as long to instantly move his hook across the room while being flirty!) that it worked and was (possibly) a nice nod to the actors as well. Not sure if JMO ever says it or not, but I know Colin and MRJ have both used it for a long time (I’ve seen MRJ using ita bunch and Colin has used it ages as well) so that gave me a good laugh as a little nod to how they tend to speak on twitter. (Fun side fact – apparently Rebecca Mader tends to say things are “wicked” a lot and that was before she was cast as the WWW!)
I <3 this cast so much, even when they say silly things that turn into their catchphrases that somehow make it into the show. It was just so refreshing to see Emma enjoying herself and being so proud of that side of herself!
We may not have had tons but I love what we got for sure! Can't wait to see what the rest of the season has in store for us. (LOVE LOVE LOVE Emma reaching for Hook's wrist in the seance. He started to pull back a bit when she got close and then she pulled it more toward her. Also the almost touch? SO NATURAL for him to reach out for her and want to guide her/escort her out of the room and he came so close to doing that and her expression wasn't bothered by it either but he pulled back. Poor thing is in so much pain and doesn't want to encourage too much but also can't stay away either. That moment definitely reminded me of Darcy/Lizzie & Kristoff/Anna - the almost touch and pull back thing. Classic!)
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I miss preview!
Brief thing on the hook – honestly at this point I’m torn. I love that Emma embraces it as part of who he is and isn’t put off by it or is trying to “fix him” but at the same time, it could be really really awesome if she were to return his hand and literally and figuratively make him whole again (though she won’t think he needs it – if she does it I think it would be because that’s what he wants – she clearly doesn’t have a problem with it and JMO even said there’s something sexy about the hook lol).
I’d love for the Hook-Rumple thing to come full circle and for Rumple to give it back (letting Emma reattach it of course) and it symbolize them finding a way to make peace with one another. That could be really beautiful and would explain how they randomly have it back now.
There’s also the teases about whatever is going on in the finale and whether that’s just an au seen through a crystal ball, or actual time-travel stuff or goodness knows what but he *might* have both handsetc etc etc. We just don’t know yet! So I’m anxious to see if/when and how this might go about happening.
That said, if he does get the hand reattached, I fully expect one of the first if not THE first things he does to be kissing Emma and running that hand through her hair like you know he wants to! I’m sure the hook must be quite awkward for him romantically and to our knowledge, he’s been loyal to the memory of Milah (as per Colin, and on-screen hints that he was only focused on revenge and was never able to let go of Milah until Emma came along), so it’s very likely that Emma is the first person he’s actually been involved with (beyond flirting/charming to get what he wants in his quest for revenge) so it could easily come to the point where he is a bit more self-conscious about the hook and/or wishes he had his hand back. Again I think if he does get it back it’ll be because he CHOOSES to and/or they NEED to give it back so he doesn’t stick out somewhere etc.
This whole season, basically from the moment he came back and realized that part of that reasoning was his growing feelings for Emma, we’ve seen the hook become rather awkward. Him stumbling to do things that even sick/near-death Charming could do better because he had both hands (lighting things for instance), and this half-season especially he’s had to keep it hidden a lot already.
So I could really see it going either way – embracing it as a part of who he is and keeping it that way and not needing anything else, or choosing to complete the physical transformation back to more of Killian and less of Hook (though with some of the sass intact I’m sure). Again depends on whether it needs to happen for some reason, or things just naturally move in that direction.
I would imagine that if Henry were to not get his memories back (I think he will but let’s just say no for a second), then it would be rather cumbersome to have to hide it all the time when Henry’s around, especially if the option of getting it back is on the table. The gloved hand attachment works fine and he’s done well for himself with the hook even, but he’s still going down the path of trying to become the man he once was/always wanted to be instead of the pirate he became when he was at his lowest. Emma is restoring his ability to love and the desire to be the good, honorable man so I could see him at some point wishing that he could have it back, but I do love that she embraces it as part of him too. So torn!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
Loved what Josh said too. There’s really no winning in answering those questions but I get why people still ask it of him as ProtectiveDaddy!Charming and all. Charming has seen a good side to Hook, they are somewhat friends now (still not over Charming patting Killian on the shoulder to comfort him and Killian’s eyes starting to water), but like he said, NOBODY is ever going to be good enough for his little girl! ESPECIALLY since he missed so much of her life already! He was supposed to be her protector and he saved her long enough to send her into the wardrobe and then when they were reunited, he found out she basically had an awful life and bad things just keep on happening. He just wants her to be HAPPY and it’s one of the things I loved about him wishing they could ALL go back to the EF because this world has been cruel to her. Ultimately he wants her happy and I think once it’s made SUPER SUPER obvious how happy Killian makes her, the rest of her family will get in line.
Henry is already on that arc this half-season because he now knows the history behind why Emma was so closed off for so long. It will give him a different angle to view things once he gets his memories back (he better), and I genuinely think he’ll just want her to be happy. I even think Snow will come around when it’s made more obvious and Emma lets those walls down a bit more. MM was always so observant and encouraging of her finding love and being happy so it’s been tough to see MM projecting onto her and guessing what it might be instead of listening to and reading Emma like she used to, but I think, especially with recent events, that Emma will have to be more the pursuer to get Hook’s walls down since he’s having to keep his distance right now and that at some point, either something major will happen that brings it out in the open a la Henry in S1, or Emma will just finally let it show more.
We saw a hint to that starting when she told Killian that she didn’t care what happened in the last year and basically expected him to join them for dinner etc, and I think in the upcoming episodes more of that will definitely be happening. Based on what I’m hearing about a little scene in tonight’s episode, I’m definitely excited.
I just really want Emma to smile. We’ve gotten it a few times around Killian but often in the quiet moments just the two of them. So of COURSE everyone sees HIM pining for HER and consider her indifferent based on what she says. Going back and watching MM in S1 know that Emma wouldn’t be bringing something up if it were really nothing, and then jumping to conclusions in 3A about her reasoning for bringing something up can be frustrating, but Emma isn’t really giving people a lot to work with.
The hints have been there from time to time, like her asking Charming if he’s trying to keep her away from Hook, or telling Snow that she kissed Hook, or the fact that she willingly has him by her side on almost everything, not to mention the COUNTLESS observations we’ve seen from Snow and Charming watching their interactions. We’ll get there, but seeing Emma actually be openly happy with someone will be a big part of it. She’s been so sad and miserable for so long and everyone just wants her to be happy. So bring on Flirty!Emma some more but make it super obvious and not just when they’re alone (though I love that too).
Seriously, there are SO MANY underrated moments for CS that I don’t even care when we don’t get the big stuff in the episode. Even if it’s just a scene or two, the teamwork, the supportiveness, the banter, etc etc is wonderful. It’s the little moments that make everything else special. Even if it’s just a brief lightening of the moment that makes her smile, it’s an important scene for them. Some will always say it’s been rushed but this is the slow burn guys, like Killian we’re in it for the long haul. He is plowing through those walls and now she has to work on his a bit too. But those little moments, those are our “good moments” that we have to look for, no matter what else is going on. Otherwise what’s the point? That was Charming’s ENTIRE POINT with Snow and then Emma – that bad things happen, chaos is always going to be around, other things will always get in the way (villains will always try to split them up, grr…) etc etc, but find those good moments. And if CS does one thing really really well (and frankly more than one but go with me) it’s finding and appreciating those little moments, even when the rest of the episode is focused elsewhere, or our favorite pair isn’t glued to the hip of the other because they’re off doing goodness knows what.
IT’S THE LITTLE THINGS – THEY ADD UP and CS has those little but good moments in spades.
Happy Once-day/Easter everyone! *cookies*
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
It’s definitely a double-edged sword. Quite often (this season especially) we’ve heard a lot about episodes in advance which adds to the detailed headcanons and the hype and then when we see it, it can be underwhelming. Same with the long-running headcanons. When you fall in love with an idea and it shows up as something else entirely that to you isn’t as exciting as what you came up with, it can be hard to take.
We’ve seen this time and time again, especially when filling in a character’s backstory. The show is not remotely linear and sometimes we fill in the gaps for ourselves based on what we think we know about the character. Look at how many different types of reactions every character gets for basically everything they do! When you have it in your head that so and so is shady, or such and such must have always been good, bad, whatever, it can be shocking to see that maybe they weren’t always that way, or perhaps they did something stupid and selfish or weren’t as white as snow all their lives. That’s one of the things I love about the show is all the layers for each character, but because it isn’t linear, we DO fill in the gaps with headcanons and then say “so and so would NEVER do that, it’s soooo OOC” but really, they know the characters better than we do and know their histories and what they’re capable of. We’ve just filled in the gaps in our heads differently about how much they may have gone through or what their response to a certain situation might be (and we’re all guilty of it).
Hence the dangerous tightrope we walk when we let headcanons dictate our feelings about a character. (I can’t tell you the number of times I’ve wanted to throw things because of the assumptions that are made of various character because of things that we have never seen but from the gaps being filled in by headcanons. Waiting on answers for what they would actually do or not do is TOUGH but I’d rather have answers and be wrong than hear how so and so must do this this and this when we haven’t seen anything to actually back that up.)
I definitely find the more I step back and go in with the expectation of enjoying the show but without the details of what I expect to get out of specific plot points, I’m genuinely surprised and my expectations are exceeded. It’s much more difficult to go in thinking you know everything and having this awesome idea and then realizing that they could have gone that way and chose a different path instead.
It’s their story & they can tell it how they wish. Nobody is ever going to love 100% of it no matter what, but headcanons can definitely be a dangerous (though fun) thing to be a part of. Most of us around here have at least one theory we’re sticking to until proven otherwise and sometimes that’s awesome and sometimes we’re just completely disappointed with what they end up doing.
Anything that sparks creativity in some way is a good thing. Theorizing, coming up with headcanons, maybe even writing fanfic or making graphics while waiting around for an episode can be fun. Does it seem pointless when it’s so far off the beaten path from what they show us? Maybe…but it was still fun to think of and often, unless they really wow us with something incredible, it’s those headcanons I see people go back to and rewrite the story their own way and pretend it happened. It’s tough to be relegated to “quit watching” or “go read/write fanfic” when we all want to see our perfect headcanons play out but it’s literally impossible to make that happen for everyone (sad but true).
I still love the show and can’t wait to see it every week, regardless of which headcanon it inevitably shatters. I love that even with all the spoilers that do get out, they still manage to surprise. I wish that less got out though. Then maybe these headcanons wouldn’t be so grounded in what we thought were clues leading in an entirely different direction based on “facts” instead of general wishes of “I hope this happens eventually” like they used to be. We get so much now that it seems almost impossible to be wrong and then they throw a curveball. Personally I think it’s almost more upsetting that way – to have so much reason to think one thing and then have to say you were wrong about it, than just to hope that something like that happens without the details of how it will. Trying to put the puzzle together ahead of time, even based on a lot of details we shouldn’t know already, makes it seem that much more real and plausible. I know especially around here we try to figure out everything that’s going to happen and latch onto these ideas and then when it doesn’t….it can be frustrating/upsetting/shocking and not necessarily in a good way.
For me personally it’s *usually* in a good way and I’m definitely here for the long haul and am invested in these stories, but headcanons walk a fine line whenever people are as invested as we are around here. I totally understand why some are jaded or are more nitpicky about the show than maybe they used to be. But it’s still their story, not ours, and overall, it’s still a lot better than not having it (at least for me). Plus it’s fun collaborating with others who share those ideas, whether they happen or not, and at the end of the day it’s supposed to be entertaining. Yes it’s frustrating to not see what you want play out the way you want it to, but for someone else it is. Likewise, for me, anything that sparks those creative discussions and ideas is fun, regardless of what happens. Theorizing is half the fun of shows like this in the first place and nobody’s always right! There have been TONS of good theories around here and headcanons we pretty much all held onto for a long time and then were surprised about. It doesn’t make those theories any less awesome or fun.
I do have faith that they do know where they ultimately want to end up and it’s a matter of how we get there and when. They don’t have all the day-to-day mapped out, and things unfortunately get cut that we’d have really liked to see (and they’d have liked to show us I’m sure), but it’s still a great story, regardless of what headcanons it quashes along the way.
As someone who is attempting to become a writer I can definitely say that sometimes you have certain key scenes/events/endings that come to mind that you stick to, and then you add in everything else along the journey. Perhaps I just see it from a different angle because of that, but I can definitely see them having an idea that’s pretty much set in stone for ultimately where they want to end up while not having the detailed journey 100% filled in. It’s just the way it works sometimes. (Believe me I’d rather they spent forever mapping it all out wayyyy ahead of time and tie it all up with a nice neat little bow and know who would be available when so they wouldn’t have to scrounge up replacement stuff – a la, actors getting other shows, actors breaking their legs and being out for a few episodes etc etc but that’s just not the way it works in this business.)
The show has never been perfect and never will be, but it’s still an amazing story and I can’t wait to see where they go with it next, regardless of what fun headcanons they squash. For every one that someone hates, somebody else loves it and we have to remember that. Can’t please everyone, no matter how much we try. =/ (If I ever manage to publish, I will go into hiding – this business is BRUTAL and passionate fans are a double-edged sword themselves!)
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They did say that somebody Zelena was related to would be shocking right? I’m assuming they DON’T mean Regina, especially since that was spilled so early, so being the possible half-sister of Dorothy? That would be an interesting twist for Oz as we know it.
Good catch. I forgot about the John Gale line.
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As heartbreaking as everything is right now, it gives me even more faith and it’s actually kind of beautiful. He was cursed because he tried to get redemption the wrong way – by asking for it, aka: words. It backfired because of Zelena but she basically said “you tried to take the easy way out by asking for it” and this show is definitely NOT about the easy way being the way right to do things.
It almost always backfires. His actions will win out eventually and there was a ton of character growth in him chasing her down to give the heartfelt apology that he had basically gotten out of doing before that. Nobody else remembers the missing year and once again, he’s put in a position where he could have gotten away with something bad happening that nobody would connect him to, and he chose to tell “her” – stupid Zelena.
But yeah as painful as this is right now, saying you regret it and asking for forgiveness does nothing to undo any of the pain caused by it. Happy endings must be earned and while it was a step in the right direction, it’s costing him even more and will force him to earn it. After all, True Love must be fought for & Happy Endings must be earned!
The villains we know and love are slowly being redeemed but it’s never an overnight process. That’s always been a criticism – that characters appear to be redeemed too quickly but it’s always 2 steps forward, 1 step back. They slip. They make mistakes. Regina and Rumple have done some truly awful things in present day, even after they have someone in their corner who is practically begging them to do the right thing all the time (Regina slipped even with Henry in her life, Rumple slipped in spite of Belle and Neal, etc etc).
I had to laugh – I actually loved the dice scene. Not a fan of cheating at anything and it’s not that I want Henry to do anything “bad” but look at his family tree. Loaded dice are NOT the end of the world when both his birth parents were thieves, his adoptive mother was the Evil Queen, his grandmother was a bandit, his grandfather on the other side is the Dark One. Killian playing dice games for french fries and laughing and having fun? Yeah I think I’ll take that over sending him out into the woods/streets and thieving to stay alive like Neal and Emma both did, as well as Snow.
The kid’s finding a way to be happy and is surrounded by loved ones. Plus he’s the truest believer aka THE biggest proponent of good overcoming evil. So loaded dice and borrowing a boat? With his family that’s not exactly the worst possible thing to do. His parents wouldn’t have even met if his mother hadn’t been stealing a car…that his father already stole so….at least they brought the boat back and Killian was honest with him about the dice? I mean really, given how screwed up the rest of the tree is I don’t see how that’s even an issue. (Plus they’re super adorable together and Henry needs someone right now and everyone else is too afraid of betraying the secret whereas Killian needs him as much as the other way around. The kid’s having fun and it’s WAY safer than letting him drive. *shakes Charming* Seriously, go back to practicing with wooden swords or something, don’t let him drive!)
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