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The confusion with Latest Topics / Recent Replies is going to take some adjusting. I loved going to “New Posts” to see what I was missing from recent stuff, and only seeing the most recent 5 posts in the box on the right is going to cause some problems I think.
One being that you miss a lot of stuff because you don’t know that other stuff is recent (still not sure how to tell which posts have been read and which haven’t in just looking at the boards – I’m guessing the color changes etc will help with that?
The other is the titles of the threads. Once we get into spoiler stuff in the coming weeks, people will have to ignore that box entirely to not accidentally read anything spoilery.
Looking forward to the codes working better and making more sense for those of us who don’t do much coding! Glad to hear that the old spoiler in brackets works (though I miss that button for sure!) as well as being able to preview posts. All of it will take some getting used to but hopefully we’ll all have adjusted by the time things really ramp up in the coming weeks and into the fall!
Thanks so much Daniel (and all the people who helped copy links as well). I’m sure this is a massive job but I’m happy about the chat and embedded tweets features, and I’m sure I’ll learn how to work the rest of it eventually. Love these forums and so glad they’re back!
[adrotate group="5"]Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantThanks for all the work you’re doing Daniel! SO glad the forums are back up!
Testing various things out again. Links from the recent replies are going to the recent reply finally (yay!).
Search feature is still not coming up with any results and the “latest topics” are still very very scattered and not really the “latest” which seem to be the 5 on the recent reply box on the right which is again, spoilery by title.
We have @’s? Good to know…
Still unsure of how to tell the read topics from the unread ones and the color is still bright but I understand that a lot of these things take time!
The code buttons all have weird names but bold, italic, link, block quote etc seem to work. I’m not sure how to do spoiler tags yet, or use quote with a name and not the weird long number at the top.
Edited to add: when posting, it takes you straight to your post now (yay) instead of back to page 1! (It also immediately puts it into the “recent replies” box on the right). Still need to remember about unchecking that edit logger box though.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantI feel like after all the fiasco last year with people reporting they were planning on recasting Jefferson that they said they weren’t interested in recasting ANYBODY.
That casting call does sound awfully similar though, but really most thieves would probably be shown trying to steal something from Rumplestiltskin. Wonder what other thieves could be lurking in FTL?
Rufio is probably a placeholder for a similar type role, although it would be weird to not just code-name it something else. I feel like we were misdirected with Felix which is the general desire of such things (there was debate as to PP or a Rufio-esque character). By saying Rufio it kinda has to be him or “a Pan” which gives stuff away, yet we haven’t seen an actual casting call for PP even though we know he’s coming. I have a feeling that’s because they don’t want to reveal ANY details about him at all (kinda hard to put out a call without giving any specifics whatsoever!)
I really really hope that they keep Tom Ellis as RH, even though he was only shown in one episode so far. I’d like the continuity. They already had to have a stand-in for Mulan but it was for a brief scene where she wasn’t *technically* needed to be anything other than seen and I fully expect her to be herself when we see MAP again, however briefly. I can’t imagine them recasting RH so quickly, we just met him!
I do like the idea that we’ll get more of his story along with (hopefully) teaching Snow how to use a bow and arrow. I’m still on the fence about RH & Marian being Tamara’s parents (mostly cause I hate her and don’t want her associated with characters I like) but I’ll agree their appearance, and the fact that she was pregnant, were very random indeed if they didn’t have plans to do *something* with it.
There’s only been a couple of things I’ve actually really hated though, mostly Sidney as “genie” (I’m still holding out for him to be JafarGenie instead…) and the idea that Tamara is actually related to FT characters I like. That being said, they’ve turned villains into anti-heroes that I love, and PP is apparently a villain, so it’s certainly not impossible. I just really liked the OUAT RH and would hate for his daughter to be so awful. =/ We’ll see though!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantBut did this confirm that Tamara/Greg are working for the PP? Or is there more to it?
Well I think the finale had Rumple saying that GOAT didn’t know who they were working for and it was very heavily implied that it was PP and that PP is who he’s afraid of (I can’t remember if H&K confirmed this anywhere, it’s been awhile).
However, this article doesn’t really *confirm* anything because it’s not quotes from the writers but rather 1 person’s interpretation of things. We saw a lot of articles like this last season where they said it “confirmed” things like Neal being Peter and that wasn’t true just because he said he was in NL, so I’m inclined to take it all with a grain of salt.
That being said, it’s a good list of reasons why many of us are creeped out by what we’ve encountered so far for OUAT’s version of PP, and I agree with RG – creepy shadow eyes!
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantWhen clicking on the recent posts section on the right, clicking on the thread itself takes us to page 1 and clicking on the person takes us to their profile. Any way to make it go to the most recent page of it?
Edit – seems to be working now.
Edit again – seems to be broken again. When hovering over it, it previews the message the last person wrote, but it is redirecting it to page 1 of the thread.
Latest Topics “freshness” list is scattered, some recent, some old, some very old, some recent, some old. No idea how it thinks that’s “latest” or in any kind of “freshness” order as it seems a little bizarre to me, but I don’t know how these things work.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantThanks Obisgirl! I knew those scenes resonated with me as a parallel for some reason but I never realized JUST how closely the two scenes were related other than Charming/Hook *choosing* Snow/Emma! The language parallels are HUGE in this show! (Still waiting for more Snowing ones like the “trying to stay away from you” stuff which resulted in a huge MM/David kiss! – presumably will happen if Hook struggles with his feelings for Emma once Neal is in the picture again.) Plus it’s the whole obligation vs heart thing that David struggled with – I’d be shocked if Emma doesn’t struggle with anything relating to this emotional upheaval of her 17 year old self’s wishes & dreams, and the woman she is today and her bond with Hook. (I don’t think it can ever be as simple as “Neal’s alive! I’m in love! Cya Hook! We’ll be best friends!”)
I’m more cautiously optimistic now than I have been in awhile that CS is the real deal and was always intended to be. Pirate Emma Swan sketch? Pirate & Knight in Emma’s nursery? Ship’s wheel / ships / Snowing castle being surrounded by water? These little things add up! Not to mention that Hook was always supposed to be around from the start and they even considered changing who Henry’s dad was because people guessed it was Bae. For the first time in a long time, I am letting myself, dare I say it, be hopeful that all these little tiny things along the way add up to something amazing!
Before the forums went down I was wishing to be more torn so I could handle a backup option if I had to (and I’m still mildly in that mindset, even though I won’t be super thrilled unless they do an incredible job of making me actually want Emma and Hook with other people) but I love the show and will go with whatever – I just really think they’ve set up something real and beautiful and epic with CaptainSwan.
Other misc thoughts I’ve been waiting to post here for ages but that 1st parallel from the last post was the most important:
1. Hearts being ripped out & reasons behind it: I know some have recently compared Hook & Regina saying both their loves had their hearts ripped out and that’s why they’re kindred spirits but it’s a completely different situation and Hook’s ordeal is more similarly paralleled to Emma/Graham. (Yes all 3 had hearts ripped out but look at what was involved with it:)
Rumple ripping Milah’s heart out is similar to Regina ripping Graham’s out because it’s an ex-lover that did it after they chose to leave them and be with someone else (Milah with Hook, Graham with Emma). Daniel’s heart being ripped out by Cora was to force Regina to become queen as Cora wanted – different situations and more a pro-CaptainSwan parallel than anything.
It’s a bit more of a stretch (to me), to say that it is equally paralleled for both Emma & Regina to Hook because the circumstances were different even though the methods and deaths were the same: heart ripping out, dying in the arms of someone who loves (or is starting to open up to it in Emma’s case) them. When you look at the actual reasoning behind the heart ripping though, it’s very similar for Milah & Graham’s death – not so much Daniel’s.2. Adam responded to somebody on twitter who said “Only two options on that ship for Regina are Hook or Emma! And Eddie said Emma “truly loves “Neal!” with (Adam:)” that’s make an assumption! If she’s getting a love interest you’re assuming they’re on the ship! Maybe. Maybe not” as well as saying “also just cause someone truly loves someone doesn’t mean they wind up together” which at least gives us the hope that things are a possibility. Just like a lot of CSers have been saying all along – loving someone and being in love with them are 2 different things.
Adam doesn’t destroy anyone’s hopes and makes a point of not answering spoilery things and that he loves all the fans so it all has to be taken with a grain of salt but I love it when he makes distinctions like this. It shows that we’re not delusional in saying that there’s a difference in types of love. They’ve been saying for ages that Emma does love Neal but his comment shows that it’s not impossible to love someone and not be in love with them/meant to be true love forever but perhaps just a meant to be at some point in time (perhaps in the past).
Not to say it rules ANYTHING out, just saying it keeps the door wide open! Otherwise them saying she loves Neal would lead to no point in giving CS any build-up whatsoever, not to mention a triangle. With the the Snowing/Abigail stuff, pretty much everybody hated Abigail (who is now awesome but at the time was just “the nag with the bad attitude” – whereas Hook is well-loved and actually has a LOT of setup to be Emma’s love interest down the line – Abigail had NONE of that and was pretty quickly thrown out because a) we know Snowing would be together and b) David was always drawn to MM, Charming to Snow and it was obvious, just as it is *to some of us* that Emma is drawn to Hook. It’s only made more complicated / less obvious of the outcome *because* she has unresolved issues with Neal and a past, where Charming/Abigail didn’t).
Side note: The PR department has actually been USING OUR SHIPPER NAME to promo stuff. If they continue using it and it’s a diversion or they just don’t know and are going with what’s popular, I’d like to think that H&K would quietly tell them to knock it off and go back to normal stuff. otherwise it’s mean and misleading to ALL fans (pro-CS who are excited, anti-CS who are heartbroken for their ships).
We don’t see hardly any other ship used except TL canon couples like Snowing in promos (I loved their Christmas promos in Season 1!) but I’ve seen the facebook and twitter pages actually using the word CaptainSwan to promote the show recently. These are the same people who gave us Frankenstein and Rumple as the beast in the promos. Usually I hate that they give so much away and other times they’re wrong about everything (ie: Hook being worse than Rumple and “the biggest villain of all time”? but that was his first episode, they didn’t know any better). I’d like to think since they never mentioned that again that H&K saw it and were like oh great….thanks guys.
Kinda like how interviews have steered away for all of the triangle into saying that they want to focus on family or that others are a possibility or something (whereas before each guy would answer “it’s a possibility” to being paired with Emma, and JMO hints at CS but implied that she felt like Emma was done with Neal in Manhattan but is grateful to know why he did all of those things). It’s all up to the writers ultimately and the actors may or may not know some stuff and/or hope for things that don’t turn out that way. Remember when Ginny put her 2 cents in at PaleyFest about why Snowing wouldn’t like even the thought of CaptainSwan and H&K were QUICK to put a lid on that? We must hold out hope!
3. (I posted this on tumblr a bit ago but will add it here as well.) Anton & Emma. Anton has seen humans interact before. Tiny & Tallahassee were showing his own parallel with dealing with humans. He was afraid to trust Emma & Hook because he was betrayed by Jack & Jill. He sees Emma & Hook look out for each other (and Hook offers himself up to be the giant’s target saying he’s “the worst human around” even though the only option is Emma & at this point he’s still bent on revenge…) and even when Emma betrays Hook, she makes sure he’ll be safe and let go in a few hours. Anton saw her ask this of him, just like he has SEEN Jack leave Jill behind to die and they clearly had a different relationship than Emma & Hook do at this point (and Emma/Hook didn’t make an elaborate showing of tricking him into trusting them either).
Anton doesn’t want to trust Emma anymore than Emma wants to trust Hook and now look at them! Anton is greeted with a hug back in SB and is shown that not all humans are as evil as James was (thanks to his niece Emma being awesome and his twin brother Charming being good) and Emma is starting to trust Hook now too, and with the most important thing in her life I might add! (Trusting Regina or Rumple with Henry is one thing because he’s family to them as well…Hook has no such allegiance and Emma doesn’t know much about his history with Neal other than that Neal isn’t too fond of him – yet she still trusts him to help find Henry).
In Tallahassee Anton meets the human (Emma) who will make up for his past betrayals by humans in order to trust them again as he always thought he could. Tallahassee is also where Emma is afraid to trust Hook because of her past with a human (Neal) but wants to and at some point in the future, (really starting with the Season 2 finale), she is finally learning that just like Anton, she was right to trust someone and all of those beautiful relationships started in present-day Tallahassee: Emma/Hook, Emma’s friendship with Anton. Both Emma and Anton are learning that they should trust their instincts and not allow a couple of people in their pasts to destroy them/not allow them to trust anyone ever because there are people out there who can be trusted and they should not be closed-off to it.
4. The pouch thing. Need to find it on tumblr again & I know I’ve mentioned that both Charming & Hook have the pouches, but someone made a gifset of Charming handing the pouch with the gold over to Snow, and Hook handing the pouch with the bean over to Emma. Yay parallels!
5. Hook’s ring: It has a flower & star on it. Emma has a flower tattoo, as well as a star keychain, & Charming’s crest has the same flower on it as well. The clothes that Hook gave Bae to wear had a belt with the same flower too. I think when we learn more about Killian’s family, we’ll find some connection to Charming’s kingdom as the knights etc wear the crest as well. Plus there’s the pirate & the knight statues in Emma’s nursery from way back in the pilot and some have been wanting Killian to be of more noble blood than just a pirate – perhaps his father was an exiled knight or something (300 years ago so long before Snowing took over), and Hook will redeem the family name by joining forces with and protecting (and falling in love with) Emma!
Note: This is not to bash anyone or ignore the reasons behind it, and Emma was vindicated in originally trusting (and thus waiting for 2 years for) Neal’s feelings for her. I’m just pointing out that Tallahassee present-day was specifically the start of Anton learning to trust again (he was always interested in humans and got burned badly by some), and the start of Emma learning to do the same (she blatantly said that she wanted to trust Hook but was too afraid to and we SAW why) as it is her first adventure with Hook and by the end of the season she blindly trusts him to do the right thing (doesn’t even look in the pouch & she totally would have from anybody else outside of her parents).
Looking forward to seeing what everyone else has found over the break and restoring our CaptainSwan safe haven! Waiting for Netflix to hurry up and add Season 2 so that I can get good quality screenshots to work on my parallels and various theories but I’ve missed you guys! *passes out cookies*
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantI saw that on tumblr as well! Lucky girl & great story! So jealous! Also yes, the link is working now. 🙂
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantYay! We’re back!
Things I’ve noticed so far:
– Avatar / sig missing, must be reconstructed (not a huge deal)
– Quotes: posting with the number rather than the name
– Codes definitely need a walkthrough (I miss the spoiler tag for instance)
– Bold is now “strong” in the coding, interesting
– When posting there is no preview option (important for checking quotes/links/editing etc)
– When finished posting, it redirects to page 1 instead of your new post
– Latest topics doesn’t update and show the actual latest posts (not sure how often it updates but is currently showing posts from ~2 hrs ago instead of new ones)
– Can’t tell what’s been read and hasn’t
– Colors are a bit harsh on the eyes currently (that could just be me, I’m used to the old layout/color scheme where is was softer)Not sure if I’ve missed anything so far but looking forward to that walkthrough! In the meantime I’ll keep messing around with stuff when I get a chance.
Edited to add: this time it took me straight to my new post (on page 2) but when I posted in the CS thread, it kept redirecting me to page 1 rather than 127 where the post was so not sure if it’s been fixed or is just fickle).
Edited to add again: Forgot to mention the search feature is not working. Comes up with no results.
Recent replies seems to take the place of Latest topics but that still only shows 5 things & it could be quite spoilery if you read the title of some of the threads vs just not clicking on latest topics (like before, you could avoid the forums with spoilers and just not click on new posts). Not a huge concern for me but I’m sure some would like to avoid accidentally seeing such things when spoilers start creeping in.
Edited to add again, again: The edit logger thing – any way to turn that to automatically unchecked unless we check it? I don’t really feel the need to have it checked but keep forgetting to uncheck it.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25ParticipantHi all! Welcome back! I was a littttle bit concerned when I searched for “CaptainSwan” and couldn’t find anything (ahh!) but found it the long hard stupid way! Phew! This is going to take some getting used to in order to figure out how to post stuff but here goes! Saved this thing I found on tumblr during the downtime and just had to pass it along!
Needless to say, I’m feeling so much better about CaptainSwan right now than I was a few days ago. SO happy the forum is back so we can enjoy all the CS goodness together again, so let’s fill this place up with positive and happy shipper news!
Courtesy of onceuponamirror on tumblr: (will quote & link)
King George: Did you really think that I would let you get away? Hm? You appear to have had quite the adventure since then.
Prince Charming: Whatever it is you’re going to do to me, get on with it.
King George: I took you in as my son, and you betrayed me. I would’ve given you everything. The crown, the kingdom. All you had to do was marry King Midas’ daughter. But, you decided to follow ‘true love’.
Prince Charming: Losing my life for love… That’s a sacrifice I am happy to make.
-1×21
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Cora: My dear Captain. It seems you’ve been on quite an adventure. The compass, please.
Hook: Yes, that. Well… Matters grew complicated. It’s eluded me for the moment. The details of the affair are a bit of a bore.
Cora: Really? Stealing my protection spell and climbing the beanstalk without me might seem like a bore to you. But to me, it’s a betrayal…Who was it who bested you?
Hook: The Swan girl – Emma. Rest assured, it won’t happen again.
Cora: No, it won’t. You chose her, and the consequences of that decision.
Hook: Oh. Are you going to kill me, now? Go ahead. Try.
-2×08
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MysteryKat25Participant@KFChimera wrote:
I agree with everything!
We do need to wrap up George–big gaping loose thread.
Hints of Frankenwolf from Frankie or Granny work for me until Meghan has time to guest star.
Baby boom–only thing is, that leaves plot hole for me with A&E saying Henry was born in land without magic, so he was the ONLY one to survive. They said Ashely ‘s Alexandra wasn’t conceived in the land without magic, so ok. Yet does that mean there were no other babies? That in itself could be an interesting plot–that the people of FTL cannot have more kids in SB, and Alex was the last one born. That leads to a mystery of why, and so on, or forces them to find a new way out of SB.I want to see Jefferson and Grace–but of course, like Frankenwolf…schedule difficulties.
I want to find out what Glass is doing. Magic is back–is he still there? I’d be happy with someone noting he “escaped” and just leave it out there for whenever Esposito can guest.
More than Frankenwolf–what about that whole magic v science thing, Whale totally should have been in on that. What about the folks in his world–didn’t they notice he was gone? I’d like a storyline that shows the curse impact on other lands.
I think those comments regarding Alexandra were meant to explain that of all the children that currently exist in SB, Henry is the only one safe from the failsafe because he was conceived outside of FTL. I don’t think for a second it means that no more children can/will come along for FTL characters just because they’re in our world, but rather that there weren’t any born IN our world other than Henry & Alexandra, and there was a technicality that kept Alexandra from being safe like Henry because she was conceived outside of our world and Henry wasn’t.
I’ll take what I get with FrankenWolf hints and hope that they can get Meghan back once in awhile and that when they do, they plan on having Whale back so they can interact more.
As for Sidney, the actor is on Revolution and gave an interview recently where he was asked about it and he pointed out that S. Glass was shown as being in the hospital basement and he hopes that he’ll get to be back sometime and sounded confident that he will someday. He clearly has a bigger part on Revoultion and for the time being is vital there, but I’m encouraged he was pretty sure we’d see him again *someday.*
Same issue with scheduling problems getting SS to appear but I agree, I love Jefferson and his relationship with Grace.
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