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MysteryKat25Participant
I hope not! I have a feeling that the MAP characters are ones that we’ll just see from time to time when things relate to other more prominent stories and that hopefully we’ll eventually get a glimpse of Shang. I’d like to think since the girls spent so much time with Emma & Snow that we’ll see them more often than some of the other characters that were only around for a short time. They probably would have joined Emma & Snow had Mulan not needed to go return Aurora’s heart and Aurora getting new insight into how to save Phillip. *Fingers crossed* we see it rather than hear about it, even if it takes awhile for the story to be relevant enough to show.
As for Ariel I really do want her to be with Eric but I’m kinda liking the idea of Hook being Eric the more I think about it. A nice combination of the stories has a lot of potential and it gives me hope that one way or the other Hook may find love cause he’s one of my favorite characters and I don’t want to give up hope.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantI could see it going that way too KFChimera – lots of possibilities with that but it would be very sad and it would greatly upset a lot of fans who only know the Disney version of Ariel. Although if they do that angle and then have somebody else *cough* Eric *cough* come in and sweep her off her…tail? then it would be OK. Can’t say I’d blame her for loving Hook for that long though 😉
Yeah where is Shang?? I never got the MAP triangle just because there shouldn’t be one! We saw TLK work for A&P and most of us know who Mulan is supposed to be with so where is he? =/
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MysteryKat25ParticipantRumple doesn’t really have what he wants at all. Belle may or may not get her memory back but currently she is Lacey (I think she’ll get it back in the finale though) but his whole mission was to get his son back and they parted on bad terms and now he may think that he’s dead.
Rumple pushed Belle away so her TLK wouldn’t rid him of the Dark One curse back in Skin Deep so that he could forge ahead with his plan to get Bae back. Rumple will not be happy until he has both Belle (as Belle, not Lacey) and Bae in his life.
Whether he cares about the rest of the town or not, he’ll be a broken man in this episode and hopefully Belle gets her memories back early on so that he has someone to lean on.
He may not be in much of the previews just because they may be keeping something from getting out that’s too big of a twist or maybe he just doesn’t have much to do other than grieve. That remains to be seen. I don’t think he’ll be a major focus though, too much else going on.
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MysteryKat25Participant@HappyEndings wrote:
They stated that Emma has more power then Regina and Gold.
True but she also is still learning how to use it though I could see her accidentally doing something huge given her motivation level and having her emotions tied up in it.
Just saying since we see both Regina & Emma there. We know Regina can’t do it on her own and I’ve seen other various things where some things are just SO powerful that it takes good & evil fighting on the same side to stop them/it. Just throwing it out as a possibility, that the two of them together (someone who has practiced dark magic for a long time, and someone with new, untapped good magic that is super powerful because of being the product of true love) might be enough.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantI’m not sure yet if it’s just that Emma does something or if it’s the combination of her good magic with Regina’s dark. Sometimes really bad things require both good & bad fighting together to stop it (see Charmed, Smallville, etc etc).
Or it very well could be that Regina tries and then Emma takes over and does something spectacular. Who knows. Either would work really. We’ve at least see Regina TRY to do the right thing and stop SB from being destroyed / everyone being killed and Emma witnessing that. Maybe Regina could turn over a new leaf if she ever bothered to give anybody a chance to warm to her before she gets impatient and goes on a rampage again.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantPhee – agreed on everything. Can’t wait to see how it plays out! I like the idea of seeing her save Hook but it may take a super long time for him to be open to anything, especially if this all occurred after the Milah thing…
She better be a red-head though or people are gonna throw fits and for once I can’t blame them! They got away with Aurora because she’s the 2nd “sleeping beauty” so I’m hoping / assuming that if/when we see her mother be attacked by Mal as well – which we should *eventually* that the mother will in fact be blonde but that is not nearly as bad as not having Ariel be a red-head so *fingers crossed*
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MysteryKat25ParticipantHaha, thanks Jasmine! Maybe I’ll add CaptainSwan fanfic to one of my writing challenges for the summer. (Trying to work on novels but haven’t decided which ones to do for various NaNoWriMo challenges and others that have popped up – may save the novel writing ones for the month-longs and the little ones can be devoted to fanfic which I haven’t tried in years).
I feel like most of the stuff I thought of was fairly in character given his behavior in Tallahassee so maybe some of it could come true? I feel like there should at least be a little of that type of conversation going on, even if it isn’t *quite* as comfortable between them so quickly. I think part of that was inspired by the pictures of Snow on the Jolly Roger where Emma & Hook are barely seen but appear to be sitting off to one side alone. There are lots of funny memes about it but the fact that they're over there by themselves inspired that. (In all fairness some of it could have been between takes and they were just sitting down lol. Colin seems to get along with everyone but I'd like to think they were over there for a reason and why not a heart-to-heart?
Bring on the softer side of Killian Jones & at least a hint that maybe, just maybe CaptainSwan could have potential…obvious potential (not that it isn’t obvious to some of us already but I think Tallahassee distracted some people with the flashbacks that they couldn’t enjoy the present day stuff too…) so that even those who don’t want to see it will be forced to admit it could be there even if they prefer something else (much like I’ve been having to do lately. When it’s our turn?)
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MysteryKat25ParticipantThanks RG. It’s definitely interesting. I think it pretty much cements the NealFire Pan stuff for next season. We'll just have to wait ages to see it play out but at least we're ending the season with a lot of that too. I have a feeling that this aspect of the story is so huge & important that it's going to need a lot of time to cover – bring on more Neverland!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantYeah I’m still leery about the age thing so waiting to see who they cast but I get why people started the idea so early and being Hook doesn’t rule him out as also being Eric so it’s technically possible.
I love Hook so if they do it right I’m sure I’ll be on board. Right now I only see him with Emma because there’s just nobody else on the show that works so if they want him somewhere down the line to be kicked out of the triangle then I want him to have somewhere to go that would be equally as interesting to me and Ariel, it not a teenager…would fit that well I think, depending on how they do that.
I don’t want them to say “oh well, we’ll tease the triangle for ages but better give him a backup so let’s stick in Ariel”. I’d rather have something real work for him and not have it be there just to get him out of the way for SwanFire to be endgame, especially this early in the series.
I don’t want endgame to be for a VERY long time, especially for Emma since she’s one of the only ones we don’t know she (officially) belongs with. That being said, the moment they decide that Killian is Hook’s middle name and he uses it because it’s cooler but his first name (Eric), then of course I’d be 100% on board with Hookriel / FishHook because that’s canon we grew up with, as much as I adore CaptainSwan.
They haven’t been mishmashing the canon Disney couples so I’d like to think that whoever Ariel ends up with has to be Eric in some way shape or form, but I’m warming to the idea that it *could* be Hook (though I have loved the idea of Tom Welling as Eric since the show started, I adore Colin and find him charming so I’m sure he could handle it and adding the Hook/Killian side to Eric would give him more depth).
It does sound like Ariel will be connected to Neverland though so it’s likely there will be lots of interaction for people to use for the ship if it looks viable. Not sure why he’d have spent 100+ years near her and ignored her til now, she must be verrrrry patient or have hated him for a time / not had much to do with him ever, and then new circumstances change things perhaps.
Interested in seeing what their story is regardless of the ship just because it should be an interesting mashup.
Keeper of Hook's Trenchcoat.
MysteryKat25Participant@KFChimera wrote:
I agree with a lot of that MysteryKat. I’m not sure I see such a strong paralllel between Milah and Graham to Hook and Emma. Milah meant way more to Hook, devastated him, but Graham was more like a sad moment for Emma. She wasn’t in love with him, just attracted and willing to consider opening her walls a little. Neal ‘s “death” on the other hand does put her in that frame of mind–but I think her reaction to Tamara will be something that enlightens Hook. I don’t think Emma is going to want to kill Tamara (quackattack bodyslam her repeatedly, sure….but not kill). Unless it goes dark, and Emma feels the thirst for vengeance herself, and that gives her common ground with Hook. Yikes….I hope she doesn’t “mommy & me” and get on the dark heart path like Snow. I’m pretty sure Emma won’t though. She’ll feel the temptation but resist–and someone else will end up killing Tamara (maybe GOAT will kill each other !)
I am pretty sure Nealfire and Hook were friends–Hook saved his life by hauling him out of the water. It seems likely though at some point Hook resumed his quest to kill Rumpel, and Nealfire wouldn’t of course, be on board with that.
Agreed. Also yeah, Graham wasn’t quite the same scale as Milah but it was under similar circumstances (though she didn’t know it at the time) and she was finally open to something again and then that happened, being the first blow but she recovered. Having had something now happen to Neal she’ll be way more in that mindset and certainly out for justice if not for revenge (she knows that GOAT need to be stopped but she’s not a killer either – it’s the fine line that Snow & Charming has where he thinks certain people should die but he needs Snow to not be part of it because look how well she doesn’t handle things – Emma is a good mixture of the two so *might* do what’s necessary, especially with the right motivation, but she’s also likely to try to find another way).
Agreed on the points about Neal & Hook, can’t wait to see what their relationship to each other was really like.
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