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MysteryKat25Participant
Lisa were the enhancements a lot more behind the scenes stuff (which would be amazing to have seen – didn’t watch Lost until after OUAT started) or similar to what OUAT has been doing with “you learned this info in whatever episode” cause if they’ve been doing them as far back as that you’d think they’d know by now what kinds of enhancements the audience might be after.
I happen to be a huge behind the scenes geek (I love audio commentaries, filming documentaries etc) and I was looking forward to the enhancements for OUAT and it became such a joke. 🙁
We deserve better! Especially when other shows on the network have it being done right.
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April 8, 2013 at 10:47 pm in reply to: RIP Annette Funicello (Star of "The Mickey Mouse Club") #185124MysteryKat25Participant@obisgirl wrote:
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
Also, she & Tommy Sands (who played Tom in Babes in Toyland) sang the opening theme song to the original version of The Parent Trap.
Love those movies. She’ll be missed.
Really? I didn’t know that.
Yep 🙂 It was the same year in fact (1961) as their appearance together in Babes in Toyland. On IMDB if you go down to the soundtrack section of their pages rather than the acting one you’ll see it. They were a popular duo at the time I guess (and I adored them in Babes in Toyland).
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MysteryKat25ParticipantThey weren’t much better for the Miller’s Daughter and they basically included that one line you hoped they wouldn’t RG. It was laughable. Revenge at least put behind the scenes stuff. The only one I can think of for OUAT was that it took 20 professional dancers and 50 extras to film the ball scene. Everything else was you learned this in whatever episode and this is why Belle doesn’t remember etc etc.
I really don’t consider what they added to be behind the scenes stuff at all really, it was mostly what episodes things were from or people’s connections. They did try to explain exactly what we were seeing right then a couple of times but I didn’t really see the point in doing that for things that were pretty well explained within the episode. It didn’t give us anything new to work with.
I don’t normally watch episodes of Revenge a 2nd time but I did watch last night’s just to pay attention to the bottom of the screen. There were lots of good snippets about the actors and filming stuff we wouldn’t have learned just by watching the ep. Wish the people who do the OUAT ones would take a page out of Revenge’s playbook and do it the right way.
I was really concerned when I realized that ABC thought that OUAT’s enhancements last week were a good idea and they were spreading it out to other shows. Apparently it IS a good idea, just better executed by everybody but OUAT. Go figure :S
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MysteryKat25Participant@obisgirl wrote:
Just saw this in my hulu notifications, but enhanced episodes on Once (& Revenge) are available on hulu to watch. Thus far, it looks like hulu has last Sunday’s “The Miller’s Daughter.”
Hopefully, they also get the one we saw the week before too b/c I would like some screencaps for memes. 😆
LOL, as long as you can find something good out of it perhaps it wasn’t a total waste.
ABC did the same thing with Revenge last night having an enhanced episode (and when I heard about it I thought they were nuts given how awful the OUAT ones were the week before – and not improved last night I might add) but they were brilliant! Clearly the idea was a good one, just the execution of it was awful.
Why can’t the PR department of Revenge work on OUAT stuff?? Two minutes into the show Revenge had interesting popups about the history of the show, the actors etc. Behind the scenes background info that was new and fun and interesting. What did we get? “you learned blah blah in episode __” well no kidding! *smacks forehead*
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April 8, 2013 at 8:22 pm in reply to: RIP Annette Funicello (Star of "The Mickey Mouse Club") #185082MysteryKat25Participant@obisgirl wrote:
She was Mary, I think in Babes in Toyland.
She was! Also, she & Tommy Sands (who played Tom in Babes in Toyland) sang the opening theme song to the original version of The Parent Trap.
Love those movies. She’ll be missed.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantShort version: I agree on the 3 couples you mentioned Surayya!
As far as the couples go that’s what I’ve been voting for since Tallahassee! It would wrap things up in a nice little bow but it would also be thinking outside the box!
Henry would have everybody he loves / loves him in his life still but it wouldn’t be the “oh they have a kid, this is a fairy tale story, clearly they’re destined to be together even though both of them have spent a lot of time in the real world and not FTL like all the other couples of the show” scenario.
If it were all in FTL I could see the point, but given that Emma spent her whole life practically in the real world and NealFire doesn’t want a lot to do with FTL to begin with, it should at least be a possibility to consider that they can be in Henry’s life and make peace with the past but move on to other people at some point.
I like (ok LOVE) the idea of CaptainSwan cause they understand each other and bring out the best in one another. I was also rooting for …QueenFire? (I have NO idea what this would be called, just taking a stab at it) because of the issue they both have with magic and the idea that they both love Henry / want to be in his life and NealFire reminds me a little of Daniel in his naive sweetness (though he’s more cowardly, something he has to work on). It might help Regina with her magic issues and like you said, if she’s with him then she’s definitely within the web of Henry’s parents in 2 ways which *might* calm her down about worrying that somebody is going to take him.
For the record it has nothing to do with bio-family vs adoptive, she’s just really messed up and has a lot of work to do but for Henry’s happiness she needs to be a part of things if she can change her ways and if anybody can ultimately get her to do that it’s Henry. She just needs a little extra help. I could see her making an effort to bond with NealFire (probably for all the wrong reasons at first) but they’ve both been manipulated by Rumple, they both want Henry and they both have issues with magic, there’s a possibility at least (though I admit she hasn’t made a very good impression on him so far I’m sure!)
Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out but unless the whole point of the story is that Henry gets absolutely everything he ever wanted (he’s already called a brat by a lot of the fandom apparently) I don’t see why anything is set in stone in season 2 regarding who his parents end up with. He’s lucky to have them both in his life now and yeah, there’s tension because they obviously have a past (and a kid) together, but it would be silly to think they didn’t. Just because you loved someone a decade ago doesn’t mean you do now, your brain just reminds you of how you felt then and there are a lot of issues to work out whether it turns romantic or they realize the past is the past and move on.
It’s season 2 people, there’s a long way to go to get to endgame, anything can happen (ok ok, the main couples that are fairy tale / disney canon are pretty much locks, I don’t see them messing with those) but for new people it’s all up in the air and that’s the beauty of it.
This story has never been all FTL, it’s split and the main character, the savior, spent her whole life in the real world. That has to have some affect on something. We’ve seen little bits of this with other characters who enjoyed their SB personas and the “We Are Both” episode showed that they have been affected by it (though they still have their true loves from FTL). Emma and NealFire weren’t part of that. They’ve been in the real world and experienced things other than true love’s kiss solves everything. It’s not that far-fetched to realize how jaded Emma is at this point and that she might be drawn to something more real-world than FTL when it comes down to it (not that she would be drawn to a non-FTL person at this point because she’d want to stay with her family who I would guess would eventually end up in FTL again etc etc, just that her version of reality is very different from everyone else’s. In fact I’m waiting for her to say not all of us grew up in a fairy tale world where things are so easy and then go for the unexpected choice).
Now I admit part of this may be my CaptainSwan filter (though I do get why people ship SwanFire – I did like the idea before it became Neal who I am thoroughly unimpressed with but will accept it if they work for me and make it plausible to me after everything they’ve been through), but the scenario you set forth would at least given all of them a plausible happy ending and I can easily see those couples working.
Again, we’re talking endgame; there’s a lot of journey left and along the way I’m sure various fandoms will get their shot at what it’s like to see their coupling whether it’s short-lived or not. There aren’t many options for “true” triangles around here since we grew up knowing their stories and we’ve seen true love’s kiss work etc. Let’s enjoy the new, NOT SET IN STONE, characters and experience their journey, not knowing what to expect and see where it takes us.
I know the way they’ve written SwanFire stuff so far makes it seem like they could be destined but the biggest argument I hear for that is Henry, and for real-world-experienced characters, that’s just not enough for me. I could see NealFire idealizing it that way and thinking it absolves him of all the bad choices (especially because Emma has made bad ones too) but I don’t see Emma putting up with that. In fact I think it’ll snap her out of it because she’d be the first to say that her life isn’t like that of the rest of the FTL people.
I thought along the same lines last season with August once he was revealed as Pinocchhio. It set up the aww, 2 children from FTL, separated and reunited, mistakes have been made but they’re close now etc, I could see how they’d want to pair them up and it would fit in with other fairy tales (in Sleeping Beauty for example, Prince Phillip was 7 when baby Aurora was born and he met her then, was separated from her, met her again and saved her and the entire kingdom which broke the sleeping spell the fairies put to keep everybody in the dark until Princess Aurora was rescued from her cursed sleep etc etc). It all fit. And now where are? August isn’t an option and NealFire’s in town.
So they’ve set up plenty of plausible solutions for who she might end up with (she’s had chemistry with basically every guy thrown at her, though some have met tragic ends *sniff*) and the field is wide open because Emma DOESN’T respond to things the way that FTL want her to. Look at how she was when Snow & Charming were just happy to see their little girl. It took her a long time to accept the choices they made.
I’d love to see all the characters we love find happiness, so whatever pairings happen I want the ones left out in the cold to find somebody as well (and hopefully it’ll be a pairing I can root for too, especially if it’s Hook…), but these 3 pairings could work and I could see it happening easily. Otherwise they’ll have to find somebody new for Regina and for Hook and with the way she’s treated him I really don’t see that happening nor ever see myself wanting it to (and I love Hook so regardless of who he’s paired with I want to be able to root for it).
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MysteryKat25Participant@Gypsy wrote:
Hookian wrote
GASP what if Hook is the infamous Peter Pan!?The problem I have with this theory, since I read it a few months ago on another board is….
One of Peter Pan’s main characteristics is that he was a 14 yr old boy.
Hook was already an adult when he went to Neverland.I’m well aware that K&H put their own twist on the stories, but, to change “who” Peter Pan was and what such an iconic character was written to represent would be a stretch, even for these guys.
I’m still trying to wrap my head around the fact that it’s looking like NealFire won’t be Peter but I’m starting to agree that it’s likely Hook. One of the reasons is his comments about the Lost Boys seeming more sympathetic than we’re used to with Hook and the other being how quickly he knew to go to Neverland when he needed time to plot his revenge on the crocodile.
It’s totally possible that when Hook was younger he was in Neverland, was essentially Peter or a Lost Boy, eventually left (Peter travels out sometimes) and then grew up, only to discover he needed to go back to a place where time would stop in order to find a way to get his revenge. He knew immediately when he threw the bean that they needed to go to Neverland. How did he know about Neverland if he hadn’t been there before?
They have shown they’re not afraid to mix characters up (hello Red / Wolf) and the way he’s talked about the Lost Boys in Tallahassee makes me think that at least at one point they didn’t have such a bad relationship as one would expect.
One of the other things I’ve said from the beginning with Hook is that he comes across to me as the Dread Pirate Roberts version of Westley from The Princess Bride. What if Killian Jones is a name like that and he was once named Peter? Perhaps it’s a title that he has taken on? It would be interesting if “Killian Jones” was the enemy of Peter and the Lost Boys and that he took on that mantle once defeating him, taking over his ship etc, and then eventually choosing to leave, grow up, and become a pirate himself, keeping the name that was so fearsome to them all as children. Then he continues using that name until he becomes Hook.
It would certainly be an interesting twist and I am soooo ready for them to actually do something with him! I’m glad they’ve said they wanted him from the start because too many lump him in with the other new characters when he was supposed to be separate from them. I wonder how he would have fit into last season but I’m hopeful we get a lot more of him soon (and less of him on the stupid floor!).
I was on such a high after The Crocodile and Tallahassee because of all the potential threads they were tossing out and then he’s just been relegated to the background (partially due to injury I’m sure but he’s becoming a bit of a joke). I’m ready for the Captain to stop putting up with it, take charge, and hopefully change a few people’s minds in the process!
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MysteryKat25ParticipantHe’s fallen a little bit behind now 🙁 So go vote! It’s a very tight race for 1st & 2nd apparently.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantHmm, that does throw a wrench into things doesn’t it? Nothing’s canon til it’s on the show so it’ll be interesting to see how they show it one way or the other (showing someone else as Peter, probably season 3, or perhaps there’s just a lot more to the NealFire story than anybody has been able to guess yet. They didn’t exactly say it was all wrong, just that nobody guessed the main twist of it from what I understand at least.) Looking forward to getting more Neverland story whatever it is and I’m actually intrigued by the fact that maybe we have all gotten it completely wrong. Would be nice for something to still surprise us.
However…if he spent any time at all in Neverland, Daniel still has to drink coffee (yuck), he’ll just get to have something in it to make it taste better when it’s proven that NealFire isn’t Peter. At least that’s my understanding.
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MysteryKat25ParticipantOUAT scheduling is already messed with because of awards season and sporting events (especially the Olympics coming up) so at least for season 3 I think it would actually work.
Usually I’d agree and say summer cause it’s a longer break but I’d rather have the long break IF we don’t have any real breaks during the actual season except for the winter hiatus and if that’s got something like Wonderland to keep us busy then all the better.
I’m just sick of the 2 weeks on 3 weeks off nonsense we’ve been getting to stretch the season from Sept – May so if we can get back to back to back episodes in 2 chunks + something to keep us going in between especially in a year when the Olympics are on and the Oscars have been pushed back to March (which takes a week away from us since they air on ABC…) then I’m all for it. Try it out this year, see if it works building the momentum with no breaks once it comes back and see how it goes.
Summer break will still be rotten but at least we’d likely have 22 episodes of OUAT + 13 or whatever the mini-arc one of Wonderland is to work with and tide us over.
If we love both it’ll be like getting a season and a half from Sept-May (though not with all of the OUAT characters we love). I know we’ll all be itching to get back to OUAT but it’s better than random reruns and constant breaks and people getting frustrated with never knowing when it’s on and just not watching live. We need to keep the ratings up and back to back would help with that bigtime.
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