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  • March 10, 2016 at 11:36 pm in reply to: Who Is Filming Now? Season 5 (PART 3) #318770
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    If the main reason to kill off Robin (assuming he dies) is just to send Regina back over the edge or to make her suffer, it sends a terrible message that characters who are essentially good parents aren’t worth keeping around.

    This. Also, that a person is only good for the sake of their significant other. I do have this bad feeling that they are going to use this to send Regina down the repetitive rabbit hole they’ve got Rumple stuck in. Sure, it’ll probably resolve itself by the end of the series, but it’s just horrible narrative strategy. But they’ve tended towards it with Rumple, and I’ve no reason to think they won’t use it with Regina. The drama would be whether she goes as “deep into evil” as she did over Daniel’s death — it would make a natural parallel. Anyway, I hate the idea of Robin dying — sure, he doesn’t really stand-out, but he’s also one of the least objectionable main characters on OUAT at the moment.

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    March 10, 2016 at 11:23 pm in reply to: 513: Sneak Peeks (1 and 2) #318769
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    I kind of wish they would go into fables from other non European countries >> South and Central America, Asia and India have been barely touched.

    Yes. They’ve barely touched anything that isn’t Western Europe, even famous stories that were Disneyfied, like Mulan and Aladdin are on the far far periphery of this show.

    Considering how flat-footed they sometimes get with race and gender, I would not trust the show runners not to make an offensive mess out of tackling other people’s cultural heritage, so maybe this is for the best.

    Poseidon is. Ursula isn’t.

    Yup. Also, Chernobog is technically a Slavic pagan deity, though wasn’t particularly god-like on OUAT.

     

    March 10, 2016 at 8:55 pm in reply to: 513: Sneak Peeks (1 and 2) #318759
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    Well the man could have just been born in 1487, traveled there, died in year whatever, and was simply buried there.

    Considering what we know of the colonization of North America (and about how fast people would have been traveling at the time), that’s more than unlikely. Not to mention that a 500+ year old headstone is just not going to look like that (it’s way too new looking). It’s either a prop, or, more likely the date is 1987, since 9 and 4 can sort of look similar — that seems realistic to me.

    March 10, 2016 at 6:14 pm in reply to: 513: Sneak Peeks (1 and 2) #318739
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    They also filmed in a real cemetery, so it could even be a real gravestone that just happened to be included in the shot.

    Nah. If the dates that POM noticed are correct, and they aren’t suddenly filming in Europe, then this can’t be a real gravestone. Consider that Columbus discovered North America in 1492. BC wasn’t claimed as a British colony until the late 18th-early 19th century.

    March 9, 2016 at 6:19 pm in reply to: TVLine March 8: Blind Item–Series Killing Off Star In Finale (Revealed) #318638
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    For sure? No. But given that the day before this article came out, they were shooting in a graveyard, for a funeral scene with everyone but Robin and including Little John (that’s the big clue right there), I’d say it’s pretty sure.

    Ah! I’d missed that. Ok, then that sounds like the likely outcome. I’m going to go ahead and wager a cookie that Regina will turn out to be pregnant.

    March 9, 2016 at 5:51 pm in reply to: TVLine March 8: Blind Item–Series Killing Off Star In Finale (Revealed) #318632
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    All the Robin rumors could be a smoke screen for them killing off the original lead of the show, the character who started it all. It makes sense, since Ginny is having her second baby and probably doesn’t want to renew her contract (after the 5-year obligation). Wouldn’t make sense that Sean would want out, since he just became a regular last season. Also, killing off Regina’s true love yet again is a very poor choice of storyline. Killing off Snow, will make everything shake. My guess is she’ll make a sacrifice for Emma, so she can have a life with her true love. And then Snow may come back – Hades may release her.

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    Has Ginny indicated that she wants to take time off work or scale back in relation to having another child? If not then this is a lot of assumptions about  her commitment to her work and about how Josh and Ginny split up parenting. Maybe they’re going to kill off Charming so Josh can stay home with the kids!

    I would hate to see Robin go simply because it would be needless character torture for Regina, but I doubt it would be Snow unless they want to come back full circle and make S6 about Charming finding Snow again. Anyway do we know this blind item is about OUAT?

     

    March 9, 2016 at 2:22 pm in reply to: The Underworld and the Dark Curse #318573
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    Maybe the main recipe of the Dark Curse consists of water from all five rivers of the Underworld?

    Not that I imagine this was their plan for the origin of the Dark Curse from the very start of the show…but this could actually work. It had a drop of True Love potion on it so that it could be broken, so what’s to say that there’s not a drop from each of the rivers on there too, and each contributes to the Curse in some way? Styx – River of hatred. (Someone choc full of hate and anger was needed to cast the Curse.) Acheron – River of pain, which Charon ferries people across to get them into the Underworld. (Giving the Curse the ability to transport between realms.) Lethe – River of forgetfulness. (Amnesia is totally a thing the Curse was about.) Phlegethon – River of fire, that leads to Tartarus. (The caster of the Curse had to toss the heart into a fire.) Cocytus – River of wailing. (The fandom. ? OK seriously, I dunno, maybe the emptiness that all the people got caught up in the Curse had to suffer?) Bonus drop from Oceanus – River that encircled the world. (AKA the Town Line that kept everyone trapped.) Go around to each river with an eye dropper, drip it all on there together and badda bing, badda boom, you’ve got yourself a Dark Curse.

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    This post is my new favorite thing 🙂 One thought — it needs not be actual water from the rivers, it could be an attempt to replicate the magic of each river through other means. So in this sense, the Dark Curse might actually be the Underworld on a small scale. So perhaps it’s not that anyone has cast the DC in the Underworld, but that the UW is, in its essence, the same thing as the DC

    March 8, 2016 at 11:39 pm in reply to: TVLine 3/6 – Scoop on Hades' Endgame #318512
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    Eddy’s reply could have something to do with the tombstones with everyone’s names on them. Does anyone think that Hades’ goal might include fusing the UW and the real SB together? Peter Pan wanted to create “the new Neverland” in SB and I could see Hades doing something similar in SB.

    This seems likely — or something to that effect. It’d be in line with their whole Hades~Satan shtick. Down to the Paganini reference — there’s the legend that Paganini sold his soul to the devil to play the way he did, so the name drop at the end with Cora wasn’t innocent.

    What I’m curious about is what Hades meant when he said that each time the clock ticks the UW loses a soul. Why would that be, I wonder?

     

    March 8, 2016 at 10:48 pm in reply to: The Underworld and the Dark Curse #318511
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    Just, for the love of God, please no usage of the Lethe water as amnesia on anyone this Season!

    Hmm. I sympathize with the sentiment, but I suspect they won’t leave that particular low hanging fruit alone. Lethe is probably the most well-known “pop-culture” feature of the Greek Underworld mythology. It’s folkloric enough that I’d be surprised if they didn’t at least reference it.

    In Dante’s version of Purgatory, sinners who have “done their time” are washed in the River Lethe by someone named Matlida in order to wash away the memories of their sins. They then can enter paradise without the burden’s of their past.

    Ah, interesting. By contrast, I had this vague memory of Lethe in Milton’s Paradise Lost, and sure enough: in PL, Lethe is the river of forgetting, but tormented souls, instead of drinking from it, are actually denied access to it at the last moment, so they can’t experience the relief of forgetting their pain.

     

    “The tempting stream, with one small drop to lose

    In sweet forgetfulness all pain and woe,

    All in one moment, and so near the brink;

    But Fate withstands, and, to oppose the attempt,

    Medusa with Gorgonian terror guards

    The ford…”

    March 8, 2016 at 8:44 pm in reply to: The Underworld and the Dark Curse #318501
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    nevermore wrote:

    Also, what are people making of the five weird colored “streams” in Hades’s throne room?

    They seem to represent the five rivers of the Underworld: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_underworld#Rivers

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    Gah! I didn’t even make the connection! Thanks 🙂 Ok, random theory — any reason to think that the forgetfulness curse might be somehow derived from Lethe? And the Dark Curse derived from Acheron?

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