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This isn’t the Peter Pan you remember from your childhood.Emma (Jennifer Morrison) and the rag-tag group of heroes and villains that attempted to rescue Henry (Jared Gilmore) in Neverland learned that the hard way during last week’s Once Upon a Time. Coming face-to-face with Pan (Robbie Kay) and his Lost Boys, Emma was forced to confront the truth about herself: She’s an orphan, having grown up without the love and care of Snow (Ginnifer Goodwin) and Charming (Josh Dallas).
Once Upon a Time Postmortem: Will Emma & Co. be able to save Henry?But it’s Pan’s threat that’s the real problem. He swears that by the time Emma actually finds Henry, her son will want to stay on the island. And when she leaves, she won’t just feel like an orphan — she’ll actually be one. Unfortunately, that might be true after Charming was skimmed by an arrow doused with Dreamshade poison.
What exactly does Peter Pan want with Henry? Executive producers Adam Horowitz and Edward Kitsis dissect his motivations and tease what’s in store:
What can you tell us about Peter Pan’s motivations?
Edward Kitsis: For us, our characters are all looking for a happy ending. They’re all looking for love; it’s just what choices do you use to get them? Some people are OK playing hardball. Some people want to do it the right way. Peter Pan is an interesting story.
Adam Horowitz: Evil isn’t born; it’s made. That applies to all of the villains, including Peter Pan.
Kitsis: But he’s a sick, twisted kid. You saw the fact that Rumplestiltskin (Robert Carlyle), who we can all agree up to this point is probably the nastiest of our villains and the most-clever … said it’s someone he’s frightened of, I’m frightened of. He gets in your head and he says, “Oh, what are you most insecure about? I’m going to really exploit that.”Why did you decide to explore a Peter Pan who is evil?
Kitsis: There’s a lot of Peter Pan’s out there, and you look to take your own take. For us, it came from a character place, which is somebody who refuses to grow up has to have a lot of problems. It sounds great when you’re 16, but when you hit 25 or older, you start to go, “Oh God, I’d hate to be 16 again and I’m missing all the things in life.” You can’t just hit the pause button. This guy is probably there alone. We started to think about Heart of Darkness and Peter Pan started to become Kurtz for us, and we started to talk about going up the river to have to get him.
Horowitz: Imagine if you’re stuck at 16, great, but for hundreds of years you’re getting carded. What’s that going to do to you?Will we get to see a backstory for Pan — maybe one that includes what happened to Rufio?
Horowitz: We’re not doing a Rufio backstory.
Kitsis: We’re not doing his backstory, but we are going to be telling you how Peter Pan became Peter Pan and why he made the decision he made.
Is it harder to have a villain and the Lost Boys, who appear to be children, when it comes to how far you can go with violence?
Horowitz: We thought that was a really interesting dilemma to have villains who, just by looking at them, you really can’t engage.
Kitsis: Even though they’re probably 200 years older than you.
Horowitz: But they’re trapped as children, as boys, so how is that going to be a challenge?
Kitsis: It is a challenge because even Regina was like, “You’re lucky you’re a teenager,” but at the same respect, you see they have a profound effect on Emma. At the same time, Felix scares me. That guy is so creepy. The Lost Boys have a bit of the Lord of the Flies situation going on. It is tough and no one wants to kill children. They want to get Henry back and this is their villain. We have a very clever group. We have gotten very dark, including killing someone’s father to enact a curse, and kidnapping children and throwing them in the infinite forest. But at the same respect, we never do violence that is gratuitous. We don’t kill people unless it is earned. [Killing] Greg (Ethan Embry) and Tamara (Sonequa Martin-Green) was probably earned because they believed in something without thinking about it.
Is the goal to see Henry corrupted?
Horowitz: It’s going to be sad when we kill him.
Kitsis: Wait until you see the scene with his lifeless body.
Horowitz: They get hungry and they have to eat him. [Laughs] The premiere is called “The Heart of the Truest Believer.” That’s who Henry is. He is pure. His belief is true and pure. What happens when he is now trapped with a Pan who is—
Kitsis: A teenager who literally is one of the most charismatic figures we’ve ever seen?
Horowitz: There’s the allure of that 15-year-old — or whatever age he appears to be — in that constant youth. There’s that alluring side of Peter Pan and what being a Lost Boy means and what happens when Henry is exposed to that and manipulated by that.
Kitsis: No rules, no curfews, no bedtimes and ice cream for breakfast.Will Henry try to escape?
Horowitz: Henry [has], as we’ve seen over the years, been a very resourceful, independent boy who is now going to be thrown into a situation where that will not only be tested — he’s going to have to deal with running away and trying to escape — but now dealing with a psychological test. Pan, as we’ve seen, likes to mess with your head. What’s going to happen when Henry is face-to-face with the ultimate manipulator?
Kitsis: The thing about Henry that makes him so great is his belief. He believed enough in a book to get on a bus to go to Boston to convince this woman who gave him up for adoption in a prison in Phoenix to come back because Snow White and Charming needed to remember who they were, and it worked. This is a world where that belief is going to be used against him. I don’t think we’ve ever seen that before. That’s what we’re excited about.
Horowitz: Belief is really the theme of the season so far and we’re seeing how belief impacts on each one of our characters.
Kitsis: For us, belief is so important in everything. You need to believe in magic, you need to believe in yourself, you need to believe in your family. Neverland runs on belief. That, for us, was the uber theme. This is a show for believers and that is a show about hope.[adrotate group="5"]http://www.examiner.com/article/once-upon-a-time-new-teasers-for-charming-and-rumbelle
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What’s going to happen to Charming on Once Upon a Time?! — Mary
NATALIE: “He dies,” jokes executive producer Adam Horowitz. Relax. He’s not dead — yet — but Peter Pan did say that Emma would leave Neverland as an orphan. “Peter Pan is a guy of his word. This is a terrible circumstance he’s found himself in. It’s also a circumstance that’s going to get worse and more complicated,” says Horowitz. Fellow executive producer Edward Kitsis adds that the Dreamshade poisoning will bring out the true essence of Prince Charming’s noble, heroic nature. “The way he deals with adversity is truly practicing what he preaches. He’s going to put his family first even at the risk of his own life.” Ruh-roh.http://tvline.com/2013/10/08/bones-wedding-date-booth-brennan-season-9/
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Question: I heard that TVLine visited the Once Upon a Time set recently to interview the cast. Did Emilie de Ravin give anything away about what Belle will be doing in Storybrooke? –Tara
Ausiello: Sort of. At the time our Vlada Gelman saw de Ravin last Thursday, the actress shared, “I just shot some stuff in Storybrooke, actually, and it was nice to work with people there who I hadn’t usually worked with.” On the presumably non-Storybrooke front, de Ravin also revealed that Belle makes a new friend “who may be a mermaid. And that’s been really fun.”/
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http://tvline.com/2013/10/06/once-upon-a-time-recap-prince-charming-poisoned
CHARMING AND THE POISONING….http://tvline.com/2013/10/04/once-upon-a-time-neal-return-neverland-spoilers/
I was wondering if you knew if (or when) Once Upon a Time‘s Neal would go to Neverland? Based on some cast photos that were tweeted, it looked like he might show up there. –Allie
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Or, Michael Raymond-James was just photo bombing his pals on their own set…? Because Neal’s road home will not be an easy one. “This show never seems to be short in the obstacles department,” Raymond-James shares. “It’s one of those things where the answer to one problem usually leads to seven more problems that one needs to overcome. So there’s some tough sledding ahead, I’ll say that.”How has Once Upon a Time‘s Emma not questioned or had a glimmer of hope that Neal might have been saved? –ratinhos
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Fair point. So we asked Jennifer Morrison if Emma might start to somehow “sense” that Neal survived his portal plunge. But she maintained, “They have no sense in Neverland what happened with Neal.” And as for Emma’s instincts, “Because of everything she has been through — and especially having been through so much loss with Neal — for her own sanity, she has to assume that he is dead.”
Any clues on Regina’s Once Upon a Time love interest? –Natalie
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You think you’re anxious to meet Regina’s romantic interest? How about poor Lana Parrilla, who when we saw her on the set Thursday had yet to start shooting that storyline. But with an eye on it, she said, “I’m like, ‘What?! I don’t think she’s kissed anyone in like 200 years.’ Well, [except for] the Huntsman.
But there is something coming up. And I will say: Regina has not met him. But maybe the audience has.”
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GINNY AND JOSH ARE ENGAGED
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20744536,00.html
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20744536,00.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2454552/Ginnifer-Goodwin-Josh-Dallas-engaged.html
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/ratings/2013/10/11/abcs-once-upon-a-time-in-wonderland-debut-improves-its-hour-496005/20131011abc02/
RATINGS … Next two weeks will tell if WONDERLAND will hold it’s own. Curiosity will bring in new audience but they have to keep them…. cross your fingers.ABC Thursday Prime (8-11pm – 7.8 million and 2.5/7 in AD18-49): ABC earned second place on Thursday, beating Fox (6.9 million and 2.4/7) and NBC (3.4 million and 1.1/3). The Net was up 67% over the year-ago night in Adults 18-49 (1.5/4 on 10/11/12).
Once Upon a Time in Wonderland (8-9pm – 5.7 million and 1.7/5 in AD18-49): During the 8 o’clock hour, ABC’s debut of Once Upon a Time in Wonderland topped NBC’s comedies by wide margins (Parks and Recreation/Welcome to the Family = 2.9 million and 1.0/3) in Total Viewers (+97%) and Adults 18-49 (+70%). The Wonderland premiere gained young adult audience (+6%) from its first half-hour to its second half-hour. Given the strong TV playback gains for Once Upon a Time, the ABC drama spinoff will likely see a substantial increase in the L+3 and L+7 numbers. Once Upon a Time in Wonderland improved its time period over the year-ago night with Last Resort by 6% in Adults 18-49 (1.7/5 vs. 1.6/5).
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ABC Thursday Prime (8-11pm – 7.8 million and 2.5/7 in AD18-49): ABC earned second place on Thursday, beating Fox (6.9 million and 2.4/7) and NBC (3.4 million and 1.1/3).The Net was up 67% over the year-ago night in Adults 18-49 (1.5/4 on 10/11/12).
Once Upon A Time in Wonderland (8-9pm – 5.7 million and 1.7/5 in AD18-49): During the 8 o’clock hour, ABC’s debut of Once Upon A Time in Wonderland topped NBC’s comedies by wide margins
(Parks and Recreation/Welcome to the Family = 2.9 million and 1.0/3) in Total Viewers (+97%) and Adults 18-49 (+70%).The Wonderland premiere gained young adult audience (+6%) from its first half-hour to its second half-hour. Given the strong TV playback gains for Once Upon A Time, the ABC drama spinoff will likely see a substantial increase in the L+3 and L+7 numbers.
Once Upon A Time in Wonderland improved its time period over the year-ago night with Last Resort by 6% in Adults 18-49 (1.7/5 vs. 1.6/5).
RATINGS FOR WONDERLAND UNIMPRESSIVE …
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.http://www.wetpaint.com/once-upon-a-time/articles/2013-10-10-season-3-episode-3-sneak-1
WITH A LINK TO THE YOU TUBE SNEAK PEEKS ….
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.Set design was lovely …. CGI was not bad.. liked the rabbit
THE sound was off … I had trouble hearing Alice and Knave when they talked…. tried 3 different TV sets … their voices trailed off when they talked or the mic did not pick up what they are saying.
I came into the show half way thru the hour … Maybe I would have liked it more if I saw the entire show … but I thought it dragged … I am just not into the story, I guess. I will check out a couple of more episodes but I do not think this show will be for me.
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.SOME SHOWS ARE BEING RENEWED FOR NEXT YEAR…
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.http://tvtalk.com/shows/listen?seriesId=248835
tv talk FOUND on i Tunes…. another podcast about ONCE so far has been consistent this season …
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