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ParticipantOkay, I did a google search and they do have a youtube channel so maybe, keep an eye on that.
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ParticipantThat’s awesome, PoM. Lol.
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ParticipantRumplesGirl wrote:
Something I found really interesting: the Sultan seemed to be challenging Jafar, like he has a death wish. I think the Sultan wants Jafar to kill him so Jafar can’t go through with his plan to force the Sultan to love Jafar. That speaks *volumes* to me.Oh yeah. I absolutely think the Sultan would rather die than to give into what Jafar wants. He knows even if Jafar succeeds, the outcome won’t be what Jafar truly wanted. It will be hollow.
Which adds to the Sultan’s complexity, doesn’t it? Is it a small streak of nobility? He’d rather die than allow Jafar to break the laws of magic? Or is it selfishness that drives him–he’d rather die than ever be forced to love Jafar? I think the Sultan is a straight up terrible human being, but I have to wonder if he’s more psychologically complex than just “bad daddy”
Psychology and Once Upon a Time — if anyone ever wrote it, that would be the longest meta/essay monster thing ever. So much material to sort through. Lol. Not just in Wonderland, in the parent show as well.
I agree @slurpeez108 it’s probably better for Jafar’s own sanity to simply disown his daddy and move on with his life. But then again, if he did that in the beginning, the show wouldn’t quite half as interesting to watch.
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ParticipantIs audio of this available anywhere?
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ParticipantSomething I found really interesting: the Sultan seemed to be challenging Jafar, like he has a death wish. I think the Sultan wants Jafar to kill him so Jafar can’t go through with his plan to force the Sultan to love Jafar. That speaks *volumes* to me.
Oh yeah. I absolutely think the Sultan would rather die than to give into what Jafar wants. He knows even if Jafar succeeds, the outcome won’t be what Jafar truly wanted. It will be hollow.
obisgirl
ParticipantOr he doesn’t say anything at all. Just smiles all evilly and dies.
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ParticipantThis thread moves so fast…it’s going only going to move faster once the season starts again. Last day people!
I totally agree with you Jenna about everything under that spoiler cut. The tone I get, is that Emma is Neal’s property or something but I’ve never heard about Henry being an extension of that property as well.
People aren’t objects. People (Emma namely and Henry by extension), make choices about their lives. Milah as much as everyone generally hates her, verified even to Belle that Hook didn’t steal her away. She chose to go with him. Choice being the key word.
Okay, Neal will always be Henry’s father. That will never change but come on, he can definitely have more than one male parental figure in his life and you’re right, Regina would fill that role too because she is also his parent. But I don’t see CS’ers going around saying she shouldn’t have a role in Henry’s life…Double standard. It’s a nasty phrase for Oncers but it’s the truth.
@rogvortex58 – you’re the guy on the CS podcast, aren’t you? That’s cool. I haven’t met many guy ‘shippers (not just in CS but in general as well).It’s my official greetings for new ‘shippers 🙂
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ParticipantI feel bad for what he went through when he was younger but yeah, I don’t see this ending well for Jafar. If the sultan dies (and he probably will at some point), I would not be surprised if in his last moment, he taunts Jafar into thinking that he’s going to say, “I love you” but smiles wickedly before he can say it — and dies. Basically, I can see the sultan determined to stick it to Jafar til the bitter end.
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Participantobisgirl wrote:
It would be very Rumpelstiltskin if she accidentally did something that was meant to help them but actually ended up separating them from her. Like okay, we saw with the Lizard, she made a very, very vague wish and it backfired.Maybe her vague wish was for her sons to be immortal and all powerful–the unintended consequence was that they became genies in bottles
Aw. That would make sense. It would certainly put an interesting twist to, “They’re growing up too fast! I wish for my boys to be young and beautiful forever.” Poof! They’re genies. Lol.
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ParticipantIs Colin holding the hook in his lap?
I don’t think that his hook. You mean the shiny thing right? I think that was his belt buckle.
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