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But now we have a DESPERATE Neal. One who thinks nothing of putting a 4 year old at risk (who, let’s face it, I will be SHOCKED if the kid doesn’t say “I believe” again and calls the shadow – seriously). The way he was going through that cupboard to find a portal was the act of a desperate man with everything to lose. That makes him VERY dangerous.
I agree. He is a desperate soul and when you’re desperate, you make decisions where you don’t think about the consequences until later. Rumple did this in Desperate Souls, season one when he made it his mission to control the Dark One by going after the dagger and not realizing until it was too late that by killing him, he would become the new Dark One. I hope Neal has a similar epiphany later concerning Roland. I expect that he will.
Hey you guys.
There’s more stuff about the coconut. Anyone remember this?
@ginnygoodwin @joshdallas @jenmorrisonlive @colinodonoghue1 If you can't beat 'em… pic.twitter.com/r5fUv3zVUw
— Lana Parrilla (@LanaParrilla) August 28, 2013
she put the lime in the coconut and she drank it all up. lol.
So I’m definitely pro adultery if it can stop a murder, which was exactly the kind of darkness Tink was trying to stop with her encouragement. It’s a moral dilemma for sure, but in this case, adultery would have resulted in a lot of good. (which would have ruined the show)
But having an affair might not have been the only solution to Regina’s despair at being caught in a loveless marriage. As I suggested previously, Tinkerbell could have encouraged Regina to have a child of her own or to adopt. Maternal love is also a form of true love on this show (as Emma proved when she kissed Henry). Regina becoming a mother first might’ve prevented her from becoming the evil queen. If Henry is now enough to make Regina regret some of what she’s done, then I think Regina having a child before she embraced darkness might have negated the “need” here to have an extra-marital affair and would have spared the kingdom the wrath of Regina later on.
I agree.
You write very well half asleep, lol
I had coffee this morning.
Well, I did it again. This time discussing love and ethics.
And I had coffee again before writing this 🙂
Wow, obisgirl, that’s a great analysis! I’m sure it’ll make pretty decent rounds on tumblr when you post it!
I posted it on my tumblr after posting here. I’m sure I’ll revisit it again after watching the episode and add some more.
I especially love how on one the recent interviews with JMO at NYCC post panel, she compares Hook and Neal’s actions. Hook is the one that is helping her right now. Hook is the one that’s present. He’s the one who’s sort of surprising by following through with what he promises to do. And seems to be doing this very selflessly instead of selfishly. And she’s definitely taken aback by how different he is than she expected.
I’m not completely sure she’s comparing Hook and Neal specifically there, but yes, when you look at the way both of them have been doing things lately they are complete opposites to each other.
I think JMO’s indirectly comparing them because I saw another post, from one of my fellow ‘shipmates that said the same in reference to their actions:
Killian is selfless right now it’s not a drill it’s canon, on the other hand you have Neal who’s being selfish. X
Agreed with all of this! Your mind works in an interesting way obisgirl.
Thank you and that was written semi-awake because I woke up at 5 this morning and probably should have gone back to bed but thought I’d check out tumblr and whatever. I’ll probably take a nap later today to catch up on my missed sleep.
You know, it’s funny I just wrote this semi-long CS meta and used 1 Corinthians 13:4-7. The first of it anyway, love is patient reminds me of the situation with Regina and Robin Hood.
I woke up really early this morning so please excuse if this doesn’t make sense.
I’ve been thinking a lot lately about different interpretations of love on Once. Still gonna write that meta but I think it’ll probably happen later in the first half after we get more episodes. But here’s something that came to me after I read about what Neal did with Roland:
I’m sure most of us have heard of 1 Corinthians 13:4-7? It’s read 99% of the time at every wedding because it talks about love, what is and what it is not. So, a few things have popped out at me about how it relates to both Hook and Neal.
Okay, so let’s look at the first line:
Love is patient, love is kind.
This is Hook. He is definitely falling in love with Emma but we’ve also seen, especially in Lost Girl, that he is patient with her. (when she was trying to unlock Pan’s map). He probably knew all along what it took to unlock the map and could have easily told her what to do, but Emma had to figure it out for herself. He is and has always been patient with her whereas he is almost snippy with everyone else.
Skip a little further and we get to the part that parallels Neal:
It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking
It is the self-seeking part that most reminds me of Neal. Yes, he is finding his way back to Emma but look at how he finding his way back to her. He’s using magic, the one thing he’s hated since he was a kid and used Robin Hood’s most prized possession, his four year old son to get him to Neverland. No matter how you look at it, he is acting selfishly and disregarding safer ways to get what he wants done. And he’s taking shortcuts in order to accomplish his happy ending and we all know magic comes with a price and most certainly, Neal and probably cute little Roland will pay this price later.
I especially love how on one the recent interviews with JMO at NYCC post panel, she compares Hook and Neal’s actions.
Hook is the one that is helping her right now. Hook is the one that’s present. He’s the one who’s sort of surprising by following through with what he promises to do. And seems to be doing this very selflessly instead of selfishly. And she’s definitely taken aback by how different he is than she expected.
Love does not delight in evil
Neal teaming up with his dad cannot be a good thing. Rumpelstiltskin is a loose canon on the island. He’s separated from the others and who knows what he will do to accomplish his task. He knows about the prophecy and has an idea of what it means but Neal doesn’t. But right now, it seems like Neal is becoming more and more like father, taking the easy way through magic to get what he wants. This will not end well for him. And I doubt very much Emma would approve of him using a 4 year old boy to get to her.
It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.
Again, we come back to Hook and how he’s been so far with Emma. We saw him give her Bae’s sword in The Heart of the Truest Believer. He didn’t need too. He knows that Emma can take care of herself but she also needed closure as far as Neal was concerned. And she is beginning to trust him and is beginning to have hope again and it must be an awesome feeling on Emma’s part for someone to look at her and have faith in her. And it is because of Hook’s support that Emma’s going to persevere and find Henry.
Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known. And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.
We’ve seen faith, hope and love as three major themes on OUAT. It’s what Snowing’s ‘I will always find you’ means and I can see this slowly becoming reality with Hook and Emma.
How’s that for an analysis?
It sucks to wait but I want to be surprised when I watch it with him.
But Thursdays are awesome because there’s Once, Agents of Shield saved on my DVR and OUATinWonderland all in one night!
