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obisgirl
ParticipantDay 16- Least Favourite Crack Ship (Non-canon) – Swan Queen.
I’ve never been a fan and could never really understand the attraction between the characters. Sure, most everyone has chemistry on the show but it just always felt like a very toxic and unhealthy relationship between Regina and Emma anyway. I understand that there was tension between Emma and Regina in season one but I never interpreted that as sexual tension. It’s because they were fighting over Henry. ‘Breaking Glass’ further cemented my dislike for SwanQueen as a canon friendship. Because the relationship, it’s not about Emma. It’s about Regina and I’m less excited about seeing their friendship develop through the season. If it remains as Emmy being a booster for Regina and Regina continually putting her down for whatever reason, then “No!” Emma deserves so much better than that.
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ParticipantOMG, how could I forget the ‘ship I loved on Smallville?!
Clois!!

I loved watching their relationship from season 7 until the end. (I thankfully missed the whole Clana thing). The series finale, I think was okay but the fact that 10 years later, they’re still not married because he’s too busy being Superman…why waste my time with the wedding nonsense in the two-hour finale?. And when Clark finally admitted to her secret, Lois pounces on him. Best. Clois Scene.
The thing that disappoints me nowadays with DC however is that Lois seems to be non-existent. Clark in New 52 is too ‘super’ and ‘too good’ for mere mortals like Lois, that he’s in a relationship with Wonder Woman. Listen, I love Wonder Woman too (I run a Wonder Woman fan blog) but why DC is it necessary to delete Lois Lane from comic book lore? She was no damsel in distress. She’s tough. Without superpowers!
Clois exists in Zack Snider’s universe but I still prefer Smallville’s Clois. I like Amy Adams but she just isn’t Lois to me. I like Henry though. Love Henry.
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ParticipantI have to hope, despite getting all these very bland and incredibly vague twitter teasers, that 4×12 will be awesome. And Adam is saving all the good stuff for the premiere.
February 15, 2015 at 8:55 pm in reply to: EW Spoiler Room (2/13/15): Can Belle ever forgive Rumple on Once Upon a Time? #296058obisgirl
ParticipantI totally agree with you both, Cinders and Matt.
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ParticipantHere's another small #OnceUponATime #scripttease — 2 weeks to go! Hope to see ya March 1! pic.twitter.com/2klRCIdLvB
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) February 15, 2015
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ParticipantNew Captain Swan podcast episode!!!!
Here is the new podcast! http://t.co/ce7DPLDfTd
— as you wish (@onlycaptainswan) February 15, 2015
February 15, 2015 at 11:20 am in reply to: EW Spoiler Room (2/13/15): Can Belle ever forgive Rumple on Once Upon a Time? #296043obisgirl
Participant2. He keeps his powers and remains enslaved to the dagger- He’s running the risk of another Zelena situation happening. If it happened once, it can happen again, only this time the person might be 10 times worse than Zelena.
Sure. That’s a risk. However the only reason Zelena got the dagger was because Rumple threw it to her (the dumbest move in the history of dumb since Belle was literally standing right freaking there). Before that Cora once got it, but that means Rumple had 300 years of not being under any control. He’s an expert at hiding it. Cleaving himself from the dagger is not exactly a bad idea but when it involves mass murder (or hat sucking) then…yeah we need to reevaluate. Look for another option. Not lie to everyone we know.
Rumple’s choices were powerless and vulnerable, powerful but a risk to others, or powerful but not a risk but achieving this through less than moral means. Whatever Rumple chose, there would be a downside, there was no “winning” or wholly “right” choice.
Yes, but the option he chose was wholly wrong because mass murder (hat sucking) is wrong. I don’t care how useless they are, killing (hat sucking) a bunch of nuns is wrong, as is heart taking unless we suddenly think every instance of heart taking is justified because “the ends justify the means” in which case we’re looking at a very morally twisted show that really needs some serious help in the ethics department.
“Forgive but don’t forget” is basically this in a nutshell. It will take a while for Belle to trust Rumple again. In fact I’d be quite happy if 4B ended where RumBelle had just reached that stage where they were starting to build bridges again and then season 5 built on that. I’m not expecting RumBelle back together by the end of 4B as if nothing had happened (though I do wonder if the 6 week jump is so that RumBelle are slightly further down the road towards reconciliation rather than if the story had picked up exactly after Belle kicked Rumple over the town line).
How can they be further down the reconciliation line if they haven’t seen each other in 6 weeks and Rumple literally shows up as this seasons big bad, carting three villains who basically (probably) want to kill/take away the heroes happy endings? That’s not positive progress for Rumbelle. If anything, it’s exactly what Belle doesn’t want to see from Rumple…at all, ever. All it does is reinforce her belief that he is now more beast than man.
And I literally have no idea how Belle could ever trust him again. He’s an addict. He’ll always be an addict. He’ll always be teetering on the edge and the slightly provocation, say a big bad villain coming to town and threatening Belle, would push him over and he’ll start murdering the peasants again. I have no doubt that A and E will do it, but that doesn’t mean that it will be well written and logical and won’t be seriously ethically and morally disturbing.
What kind of happy ending is a character’s happy ending is dependent on the character themselves. Since Rumple’s spent much of his life feeling unloved and unlovable, it makes sense that his happy ending would include being loved. Since Belle and Bae are the only two people that have loved him, it makes sence that his happy ending would include Belle, even more so now that Bae is dead unfortunately.
Yes I know all this. And prior to S4A I would still be shipping Rumbelle as passionately as I always have. But I cannot ship them the way they are being written now. It’s disturbing. Belle forgives and places all her trust in a man, once again, who went out of his way to gleefully murder (hat suck) people he didn’t like. It makes Rumple a sociopath and Belle…well, honestly…it makes her an idiot. Even without all the lying and the deception and the hat sucking, Rumple has done things that are down right disturbing TO BELLE. Like magicking her which is really horrifying.
Yup to ALL of this!!
By the end of the 11 episodes, I think RumBelle should’ve reached the stage where they are starting to build bridges again and then season 5 continues that. .
Ummm… Noooo. Rumpel is this season’s Big Bad. He will be actively going against our heroes, and evn if he turns to the side of good, it’ll be after several episodes. Giving RumBelle even LESS time to be trying to fix their relationship. I dont think 11 episodes is enough time to fix what has been done between them. Personally. I’d rather have an entire season of that.
I can even quote Eddy on that.
KITSIS | Rumple is absolutely the Big Bad. And I would also say that the three women can more than hold their own. It’s a very formidable team of evil coming our way.
http://tvline.com/2014/12/15/once-upon-a-time-season-4-cruella-de-vil-rumplestiltskin-ariel-return/
I don’t see either how Rumbelle can be fixed in 11 episodes either. I think an entire season would be needed for them. If there is even a relationship to fix at all.
obisgirl
ParticipantDay 15- Favourite Crack Ship (Non-canon) – TinkerFire (Tinkerbell and Neal). I think there was some unexplored potential there. Clearly, Tink knew Neal as a boy but the show never went to anymore detail about their friendship. I like Tink. I think she would have benefited from having a love interest of her own.
February 14, 2015 at 7:58 pm in reply to: EW Spoiler Room (2/13/15): Can Belle ever forgive Rumple on Once Upon a Time? #296008obisgirl
ParticipantI don’t know what else to add to that whole post @rumplesgirl because everything you said was perfect.
February 14, 2015 at 5:03 pm in reply to: EW Spoiler Room (2/13/15): Can Belle ever forgive Rumple on Once Upon a Time? #295993obisgirl
ParticipantIt doesn’t weaken her character to decide not to be with him. In fact it is more damaging to believe that you cannot be happy without “your one true love.” It is a dangerous game A and E are playing here.
This.
So after all that pain and suffering…what outcome do you want for her? Something less than true love?
Belle deserves happiness and that doesn’t have to come fro a relationship and even then, it doesn’t have to come from one with Rumpel. True Love is not the ultimate form of happiness. You can be just as happy being alone…*Watcher looks in the mirror and remembers it Valentines Day T_T*
And when all that pain and suffering has been because of her true love…what ending do *you* want for her? How about self respect. How about internal peace? How about knowing that she had the strength to stand up and say, “I love you….but I love myself too. And I deserve better than constantly looking over my shoulder wondering if/when you will decide that power is more important than me”

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