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once_dude
ParticipantThis show has a “nasty habit” of self destruction, thusI can never be sure about it. I like certain canon ships one of them I think had changed radically (cough cough Snowing) from what I first thought it was. I also have a one true pairing which now will never happen. My love of the show was very much apart from shipping, it was based ona fresh retelling of the fairy tales I know and loved. Season 2 departed from that with things like the trip to Enchanted Forest and back, the home office plot etc.
A couple of general comments about the show:
I feel this show has a nasty habit of self destruction. At times they have great plots, and at times they create sub-par stories. I am not sad that Baelfire died, I am sad about the lousy way in which it was written. There is so much potential for this show, we have seen great moments of triumph and great moments of despair. I have beene motionally impacted by several episodes but was Quiet Minds, no.
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once_dude
Participantwelcome. we’re all mad here
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Participantdude i have it in my name.
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ParticipantI have not lost faith in the show because of the fact they killed BAelfire I take issue as I say in another thread at the time they killed him, that it lacked dramatic presence and magnitude that the episode did not reveal anything new.
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Participantthe starbucks logo? i always knew that starbucks was the source of all darkness.
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Participanti said to myself after I saw the episode the same sort of sentiment about Emma and Hook, I want them to at least introduce another suitor for Emma because Emma’s love life is not: whoever’s left alive wins.
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once_dude
ParticipantDearest Dark ones fan
Although I concede your valid point about the death meaning that the show becomes less predictable, I disagree that it was executed well. Let’s examine some deaths from the past in this show and I will tell you what I mean.
exhibit a: Graham the dearly departed huntsman. Graham’s death meant something because ti was the first time we saw a heart controlled. It was also meaningful because graham discovered the truth.
Exhibit B: Johanna We met Johanna in the same episode she died and yet she togehter with Eva flushed out Snow’s character and her instinct towards self sacrifice for the greater good.
Exhibit C: Cora, her death had an immense amount of irony to it, with Snow telling REgina to put her mother’s heart back, a lot of people did not like Snow Grey as one special called her, but I did appreciate it I just wanted it to go further in terms of realisations about herself.
Now we come back around to Neal’s death. What grand revelation was there in this episode? Wow, Zeleena is the wicked witch oh wait let me see we learned all about her in storybrooke in episode 13. Oh, oh, I know it was that rumple is alive, oh wait we learned that in episode 13 too. Oh oh I know it was that Zeleena isstealing the attributes of courage, brain, and heart. oh wait we learned that with night root last episode. Oh well the final revelation is with the dark one vault which we could have learned about any time. There’s the staggering revelation about ‘magic always comes with a price’ but wait we only heard Neal’s dad say that every episode he’s in. So in summary no revelations this episode at all.
In conclusion, yes I did hate that they killed off Neal, yes I was emotionally invested in Neal, but the main reason I did it was because the way they placed it it was underwhelming.
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March 31, 2014 at 2:22 pm in reply to: 3×15 “QUIET MINDS ” FOR FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS #257450once_dude
Participantassassination of Neal’s good character?:
1. The first time we see Baelfire after Neverland he is a thief. Did he not have at least literacy and common sense to work as a clerk in a store or something? Emma I can understand thieving she had no one to raise her, but Baelfire had Rumple, and had the opposite example in lost boys of how not to behave.
2. He left Emma just because some random guy reminded him of the curse, and Emma’s supposed destiny. Couldn’t they have raised Henry together and ended up in storybrooke?
3. He was with Tamara who is the most obvious liar I know.
4. He did not try to connect with rumple in Storybrooke, granted Rumple was busy with Lacey.
5. in Neverland he did well.
6. So therefore his mistake at the vault was in character a mostly noble guy who can be selfish and make terrible mistakes.
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once_dude
Participantagree that this is useless plot point but it definitely should not be we have had over 10 episodes focussing on rumplestiltskin. could not one of them describe the first visit to the dark one vault?
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Participantfor a death episode ti was otn suitably epic. episodes should have a certain magnitude to them, but until neal’s death, the episode did not seem to bring any new revelation. i dont know am i alone in this situation?
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