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@Vampirefan12 wrote:
When Colin was casted as Captain Hook, I really hoped he was going to be Baelfire but after the episode The Crocodile, I guess that theory is over.
Seeing as how we’ve been told we won’t be seeing Peter Pan this season though, there’s still a question out there as to whether he, or Neal would be Peter Pan (or someone else). Personally, I hope it’s Hook. I love the idea of that spin to the story.
[adrotate group="5"]I never cared for J.K. Rowing, and have never seen a Harry Potter movie. I think one of the reasons for that may be, because I am already aware of the controversy surrounding her work, which is the product of her judgement, and it’s quality. What determines what we do looks like doesn’t just come from our hands, and our brains. Especially when from from an artistic capacity, it comes as a visual reflection of who we are, and how our hearts regard others around us. J.K. Rowing had an entertaining story, however I don’t know that I can call her an example worth following. Just because something “seems” to prosper someone, doesn’t mean that where it really matters, that it really did. Not in any way being worthwhile, and meaningful. Look at the bigger picture. That’s where the question of ethics comes in, which I mentioned in my post. In other words, aim higher. Not just in what you do, but also for what you do does not only for, but to yourself; to the person who you want to be, and to what that person has to give to the world we live in.
This show belongs to K&H. What is forgotten, is that 99% of the characters they are using do not. These are characters we grew up loving as children. Why? Well, in our culture we put as much effort into fiction, as we do reality. It starts young with fairy tales, books, tv, video games, etc. These things become as big a part of the world we live in as anything else. Right now, things aren’t going so well in the world we live in, and it’s not getting any better. A lot of people in their personal lives, would love to have something go their way; to find some satisfaction in something, even if it’s just a fictional place to go hide for a while, and that’s what tv shows are. They are that distraction.
Sadly, I think a lot of the people who manage projects in Hollywood view the public in the same way my cousins saw my Grandma’s dog: Objects to play with. People enjoy entertainment to the level they do, because they want to escape reality for a while. That’s what these tv networks do. They offer the public a chance to be distracted from stressful, mundane, and sometimes even painful aspects in their lives. I have to be honest. I have liked Once Upon A Time since day 1, but I was upset when they killed off Graham. It wasn’t needed. Then, Hook came along. I have a whole new reason why I look forward to watching this show. Hook is the reason why I joined this board. Hook is the reason why I have taken more of an interest in the show.
If my ship doesn’t sail, whatever they leave behind had better be worth it because if it’s not, I’m going to be very disappointed. I’ll be happy so long as they keep my favorite character around. Otherwise, for the writers to tease viewers with an appealing character like Hook and then rip him away is to me, cruel. It’s a tease of the heart. For the writers to tease the possibilities around him would have been a waste of my time, a waste of my appreciation, a waste of my emotions, a waste of my fandom, and yes, even a waste of the time I’ve spent here; a waste of the time I spent appreciating their work. I don’t like it when people are taken for granted. That happens when people forget the other people who they impact are just that: people. Not objects. That’s what will have happened.
I don’t know if they are going to keep Hook, or not. I just hold out hope they will, and even after all this conversation about the “Hook is going to die” threads on the board, I still have it in the back of my mind that they may do this because I know their history. Why would I want to stick around to regard a show that is managed by people who in return, will regard me the same as a cardboard box? Maybe it’s because of politics, unions, lawyers that the public just doesn’t matter anymore. I guess when you’re kept in such isolation away from the general public, that it can skew one’s perspective, and influence their judgment….never able to see outside the box they’ve kept themselves locked in. This is a whole other conversation worth talking about in another topic, and not just here on this board. It’s a bigger issue, and its core is found in a a question of ethics.
Nevertheless, as for Once Upon A Time, it is what it is, and what will be, will be. Que sera sera. We’ll see what happens
I like Sarah’s suggestion about a “bait-and-switch”. Wouldn’t it be just like the writers to keep us distracted all this time, and end up putting her with someone else? Maybe August? There’s also been talk about Graham coming back. Surprise (well, if that’s what they’ve had planned, then it wouldn’t be a surprise now)!
No, Hook was an associate to the wrong done when Milah left Rumpel. Still the same, that was Milah’s decision. She was the big wrong-doer there. Still the same, when he had the ability, Rumpel could have fought for her. Instead, he killed her. Two wrongs don’t make a right.
I just hope the show does work on redeeming Hook. It’d just be too shallow a story to leave him a bad guy. For what he has done wrong, let him learn his lessons about it, and tell us about the drama parallel to the development and evolution of who he is, and who he can become. That’s what will make things interesting; not a monotonous template.
@AntBee wrote:
@AllThatGlitters wrote:
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As… I think the only way more people will accept the relationship with Hook and Emma (if it happens) is if he goes on a path of redemption and proves to Emma (and the audience) that he is worthy of that affection….
Agreed. I also believe that would be a better way to tell the story. Don’t leave bad people bad, and good people without an element of complication. Nobody in this world is perfect, and nobody in that fictional world will be, either. I want to see that story of redemption. That’s what I’m hoping for.
If it came to the point of saving Emma’s life, and call me nieve, but I think Hook would choose to save Emma. Here’s why: He too, has an ability to love sacrificially. He has spent his entire existance (in denial) trying to avenge, and I think thereby in the subconscious of his mind, “save” a woman who he can’t accept is dead. He said in FTL that he wouldn’t have left Emma on that Beanstalk. He was telling the truth.
One thing that will really accent the story: Giving Hook the benefit of the doubt. Let his character develop. Let it grow. He’s not so “black-and-white”. If the story lets him evolve; lets him change over time along side the drama that tells his story, I don’t think anybody will be disappointed.
There’s no opportunity for anybody to change where Neal is concerned. He’s not a bad guy, who we can root for while we watch him change (if give an opportunity). Neal is monotone. Hook isn’t.
@Hannah97 wrote:
Yeah, I really don’t understand why people want Hook and Emma together. Yes, he’s good-looking but the guy is really evil. He’s been plotting his revenge for hundreds of years, he’s murdered, and he’s double crossed pretty much everyone he’s ever worked with. If that doesn’t tell you that the guy is bad news I don’t know what will.
Chemistry. The Buzzsugar poll was right. The sexual tension there is really good. There’s more a potential for drama. There’s just more potential there all the way around. Those attributes just aren’t there with Neal. And honestly, shallow as I know it probably sounds, I’ll be blunt. Colin O’Donoghue is a looker. Cute as a button. A good ratings getter. The other guy just isn’t much to look at and sad as I know it is, appearance has everything to do with how fans will relate to what they do with this.
More cold, hard truth: Neal and Emma are too innocent. It’s sweet yes, but where push comes to shove, when put into action, it’s not realistically practical at the point of application. That’s another reason why for the sake of the show, I think putting Emma with Neal would be cute & sweet, but the excitement over that will fizzle quickly. That innocense will soon equate to booring. Whether for the right reasons or for the wrong reasons, the truth is that some things work better in theory, than in reality. The writers can do a lot with Emma and Hook. They now have a back-story and with appearance, drama, tension, and Hook’s personality, there’s enough there to stand their story up, and to keep the audience interested for the long-haul. Neal and Emma have a back-story, but that’s the only place where their tension is. The strong personality isn’t there. The attribute of appearance isn’t there. There’s just not enough there for the writers to draw from for long-term usage.
Right now, there’s another poll on Wetpaint. I think these factors are playing into why there’s such a larger favor toward Hook, than Neal.
