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The only way they could use him is if he finishes shooting Frontier and has a shave before the finale is all edited and done, so they can still shoot a scene and slip it in at the last minute. But I dunno how much longer he’ll be shooting Frontier for, so it’s safer to not #hope for a cameo in the finale.
Yup, just made me chuckle that it happened for those particular few seconds of the ep. LOL
I watch this show by downloading it and then watching on the computer. When the Bug came flying out of the trees, it started to buffer and jump around and the sound was messed up. That usually only happens if the computer is super low on memory, so I checked all that, even rebooted, but nope, it still buffered for just that part. It’s like my computer just could not deal with the SwanFire Bug coming to the rescue of the new TL couple who’d just been picking locks. Basically, the computer is me in that moment.March 26, 2018 at 12:16 am in reply to: 7×14 "The Girl in the Tower" Favorite/Least Favorite Moments #346242
I actually genuinely enjoyed (most of) this episode! The nonsense with Regina and Facilier and Lucy aside, the rest of it was, dare I say…actually kinda great. It gave me that feeling from the first couple seasons, where I cared about the characters, was feeling for them, and urging them on, and I was wrapped up in discovering their story and actually feeling the magic of it all. Bless Rose Reynolds, because Alice is SUCH an engaging character!
My biggest nitpick, guys c’mon, do some BASIC tarot research, the Death card doesn’t actually mean literal death and that someone’s plotting murder. I appreciate that I need to suspend a whole lotta disbelief with this show, and I can understand Lucy freaking out at the Death card because there’s no way that kid knows anything about tarot cards, but actual witch Regina shoulda known better than to jump to the same conclusion. I know it’s a nitpick, but blah, they shoulda figured out some other way to visually suggest that Facilier was doing something nefarious. The Death card does indicate transformation and a new beginning, so it does actually make sense with him wanting to become the Dark One. But Regina being all, “I saw the Death card, who are you after,” just did not fit.
Robin/Alice are so adorable. “Nobin.”
Shades of when Snowing met and she started calling him Charming. I got that Snowing feeling with Alice and Robyn when they ran into each other in Seattle, too. That pang of, “OMG YOU TWO IDIOTS JUST REMEMBER EACH OTHER PLEASE.”
But, what is going on with everybody from the Market forgetting Tilly? People at my local market remember me, when I go. And Tilly said she goes every day; I only go once a week, at most.
Probably Gothel dosing everyone with a forgetting potion or something. There’s no way that people don’t remember an individual as unique as Tilly if she’s there on a regular basis.
“What if I don’t exist at all?” I really really love Alice, guys. I wish she had been around for so much longer. They’ve actually managed to give Alice complexity and depth that has been lacking in other S7 characters.
Let’s be real, this sorta depth has been lacking in nearly every character for years. I would watch a show all about her adventures in Wonderland (and other places)! Seriously, the way Rose plays her is so compelling, she’s in a class all her own amongst everyone else in this cast, (except Bobby when he’s playing ImpRumple, because nothing beats that). I too am bummed that she wasn’t around longer, I’d have loved to have spent more time getting to know her.
Alice can will things into existence???? Hooooooow? I mean, this probably answer the question of who the Guardian is, though.
I felt like the candle blowing out scene was basically confirmation of her being the Guardian. I mean, they gave her a scene that’s an EXACT parallel to a scene that the Saviour got.
Tilly about to start reading Robin Hood in Henry’s apartment.
And then Robyn (what’s her Seattle name?) carrying a copy of Alice in Wonderland, because it’s her fave.
They waited far too long to do a LGBT couple in this show, and their attempt at Red and Dorothy was quite woeful, but props to them for at least setting it up this well now that they’re finally doing it. Nothing about this couple feels like they’re just there to be the token same sex couple. They have depth, they’re helping each other to be better people, and they have the connection in their cursed personas as well. The setup of their relationship is meaningful, and I can’t wait for them to remember each other.
Alice and Hook’s relationship is really growing on me. I mean when I first found out, I thought it was a stupid ploy to try and get us anti-hook fans to like him, well guess what is kinda worked I don’t hate Nook.
All the Rogers and Tilly stuff tugs on my heart, like, a lot! And then I get bummed because if they’d just done this awkward estranged father figure thing with original recipe Hook and Neal, like they’d so perfectly set up back in the day, then we could have had this interesting version of Hook all along, and I wouldn’t have grown to resent his existence.
Regina why would you send your granddaughter into a person’s house you do not trust to snoop around. I mean Lucy is what 12? Bad Grandma move.
Not just someone you don’t trust, but someone who is legitimately dangerous. That was ridiculous, she should have used Zelena to snoop instead, (and I say that as someone who never wants to see Zelena get more screen time, but seriously it would have made so much more sense than her sending the child in).
Why would Facilier want Rumple’s dagger?
I did roll my eyes all, “RLY that’s his motivation, how very original.” Thinking about it though, I suspect that they’ve introduced someone who wants to claim the Dagger, because Rumple’s in the process of trying to die without passing the Dark One power on to someone new. Adds a bit of extra challenge to the situation because Rumple now needs to actively prevent someone from getting the Dagger and stabbing him with it.
I know it said in that article that Regina and Zelena might be two of the witches, but that doesn’t really make sense to me. I guess they could be if they are threatened to use their power just like Regina was threatened to do the curse.
After re-watching the scene, I do think that Regina was supposed to be 1 of the 8. Drizella said she had 7 of the 8 ingredients needed to cast the Curse, and Regina’s specific magic was the last thing she needed. I don’t believe that Zelena can be included though, because there were already 7 hooded witches in that scene, and in the earlier scene at the birthday party there were 5 hooded witches on the ledge behind Gothel and Drizella. So it’s Gothel, Drizella/Ana, Regina, plus 5 still to be revealed.December 16, 2017 at 10:44 pm in reply to: THR 12/16 – Creators Reveal What They've Learned from Season 7 Reboot #345192
I totally missed that but that doesn’t make a lick of sense. We saw the other Witches during the Curse ceremony, yes? And Zelena and Regina were not part of the Coven; they were the opponents.
8 hooded figures, yes.
Gothel and Drizella were 2 of them.
Henry ended up being 1 of them.
So technically there were 7 hooded witches, plus Henry.
Re-watching it, (you really shouldn’t need to re-watch scenes a bunch of times in order to understand what’s going on), Drizella does imply that Regina is the 8th. When Regina’s saying how a Curse takes ingredients, Drizella says it takes 8, and she has 7, but the last was the hardest to find, and that was the magic she needed from Regina.
So fine, Regina’s one of the 8. But there’s still no room for Zelena in that equation, so that article needs to shut up.December 16, 2017 at 9:21 pm in reply to: THR 12/16 – Creators Reveal What They've Learned from Season 7 Reboot #345189
“Every year’s a new show for Once Upon a Time,” co-creator Edward Kitsis told The Hollywood Reporter. “One year we were in Camelot, one year we were in the Underworld, one we were in Neverland, once we were in New York. So, every year we’re kind of recreating a new show.”
Um no. Location = / = new show. Your show–meaning character motivations, themes, motifs, symbols, and mythology–should be pretty consistent even in the face of a new location. That’s called writing.
PREACH! Guess that explains why characters became so unrecognisable as themselves, the writers really were just focused on location and plot, rather than being interested in creating a believable, consistent world.
I just don’t know if there are seven non-movie witches to be had?
The article says…
The end of the episode revealed that while Drizella thought it was her plan to curse everyone, Mother Gothel had been pulling the strings the whole time thanks to her “Coven of the Eight,” a group of eight witches that Horowitz and Kitsis said we’ll meet in the second half of the season. (Regina and Zelena, of course, are two members.)
They don’t have that last bit in quotes though, so is that actually something that A&E did confirm in the interview, or is it just something the writer of the article assumed and stuck in there? There were 5 hooded witches standing behind Gothel when she came to get the statue of Drizella, that’s 7 of them in total that were standing there. That only leaves one vacancy, there’s not space for both Regina and Zelena.
and how do you tell somebody that you were once the wicked witch?
And that you only have a daughter because you raped your sister’s true love. Whoever Kelly’s fiancee is, I feel bad for the poor guy.
It’s always a balance between your plans and the realities of how production works. We have a lot of new locations and we’re in the city, so there’s a lot of figuring out what kinds of stories we could tell versus what our plans were. That’s always a balancing act.”
Guys, this isn’t the first time you’ve had to deal with production schedules for a show. You’ve even shot episodes of this very show in the big bad city before. “How production works” is not an acceptable excuse for a hot mess when it comes to storytelling in the 7th season of your show!!!! OMG! *bashes head repeatedly into desk*
So here’s my big question: why does Gothel even want this curse cast? If it was all to get Anastasia, then why couldn’t she stay in the New EF and get Ana there? What’s the point of moving realms? She had magic enough to put Ana into stasis and she knew how to wake up Ana in HH so…what’s the point??
I dunno why Gothel had to go to this much trouble to get Ana woken up, but I’ll bet Ana’s gonna end up being Gothel’s downfall. The girl with the inexplicable super powerful magic will snap her fingers and Lucy and Henry will both be saved, while Gothel bites the dust.
Although why she and Robyn are living on a pig farm in Enchanted Forest 2.0 is definitely a question that needs to be answered.
I can only assume that they were attempting to riff on the fact that Zelena lived in an old farmhouse in SB? But like, didn’t she only live there because it was away from everyone and the only place she could actually find to live? So her choosing to live on a farm, complete with pigs, just does not compute.
Will Robyn and Alice reunite? What was in the letter? What’s their relationship like (good, rocky, bad?)
Judging by that kiss I’d say they’re in a pretty good place. I’d guess that Alice is maybe not the type to talk about her feels all that much, so she said it all in the letter instead when she thought she’d run out of time to say it any other way with the Curse coming.
I’m sure they’ll be reunited at some point, whenever Robyn gets back from partying it up in Phuket, (nice little August throwback there).
This whole situation just seemed to come out of nowhere, (much like everything else in this ep).