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ParticipantDoes sound jokey, but I still think it could be a reminder that he has a long history that Emma knows nothing about. After last week I said the only way I’d be OK with Emma sharing her past with Hook of all people is if it was a precurser to her wanting too know about his past too. That was a moment from her childhood he got to see, and now Emma’s joking about how long ago his own childhood was.
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ParticipantHowever, this is now the second time Emma has brought up Hook’s age. Is she worried about this?
I haven’t seen it yet so dunno what context she said it in, but is it possible that it’s a, “this guy has a lot of history that Emma knows nothing about” kind of thing?
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ParticipantIt really registers how ridiculous the actual waistlines are when you look at them all side by side and see how the more realistic ones look perfectly fine.
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Participant@MP you should tweet Adam with the proof of that video.
Multiple people have tweeted Adam and Matt with the video and the timestamp of where he mentioned it.
@HookSwanEndGame @MaggieLovitt No, *I* definitely said what *I* did, but I fear I may have made a mistake. To be continued….
— Matt Mitovich (@MattMitovich) November 2, 2014
November 2, 2014 at 3:31 am in reply to: Give Me My Remote 10/31/14: Robert Carlyle Interview #288481Phee
ParticipantI enjoy Rumple being an evil little so and so, but I also want to see him grow. The way this show is structured it means they could have the best of both worlds, being bad in the past, but being shown as changing in the present. I’m sure that evil is more interesting and fun for Bobby to play, but as far as a satisfying arc for the character, staying bad forever just isn’t what I want for him.
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ParticipantIF they are really being legit in that, then I am hard-pressed to find their series endgame being anything other than SF. I think it’s safe to say that SF was the intended story from S1-S3A; we are seeing now that there’s a course change but if they’re intending to bring it back around, then that’s where things will end. IF they’re legit in that their end map is the same as it was when they created the series, it *can’t* be Hook because they didn’t have the concrete ability to have Hook in the picture at that point in time – they didn’t have the rights to that character.
There are a couple of assumptions, but yeah, that.
Assumption #1 – That the final scene involves Emma and her romantic true love. This is a reasonable assumption because the whole show began with the scene establishing Emma’s parents and their true love, so a grand romantic gesture between Emma and hers would bring the whole show full circle. It’d also be full circle in the sense that the first time we saw Emma she was on a fake date, so it’d be nice to end it with a scene showing her genuinely in love.
Assumption #2 – That when they imagined that scene, they were specific about WHO was there with Emma. If they had the person’s ID locked in, and not just a vague, “Emma and her TL”, then there’s no way it can be Hook because he wasn’t even a guaranteed get for them back then. Making the person a character of their own creation would guarantee that they wouldn’t have to waver from their original endgame vision, because they can do absolutely anything they want with a character that they invented. (Even SQ would make more sense in this regard as opposed to CS, because Regina is a character who was always guaranteed to be there right from the beginning.)
Bonus assumption – That they’re telling the truth when they say they still have their original final scene in mind and don’t intend to change it.
Adam once said that they wrote SF as being poetic. That means it’s a story that they put a lot of thought and planning and heart into right from the very beginning, and if that’s the same time they came up with the vision for their final ever scene…well…just sayin’.
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ParticipantWhich is why I think his best option would be
His best option would have been to be honest with her and not dig himself into this hole in the first place. There’s no “better” way for him to get out of this now, he’s pretty much screwed.
Anyway, we don’t even know if Snow Queen would actually be a danger to Belle, depends on their history which we have no clue about yet. It could be that Belle would be a minor annoyance and SQ would humour her but not harm her. The real problem is that Rumple doesn’t want the gals to get chatty and for SQ to reveal that she and him go way back, because that’s something he’s been keeping from Belle and he’d be busted. So he’s putting the preservation of his secrets and lies over Belle’s need to set something right that she obviously feels passionate about. And he has the hide to say, “I gave you that dagger because I trusted you,” while he’s trying to talk her out of using it, making her feel bad for using it, but she’s not even really using it because she doesn’t even have the real thing, because he doesn’t trust her enough to be honest with her.
So while I don’t like that Belle’s resorting to using the dagger to control him, I can’t bring myself to be too pissed with her because she’s suffering through this situation because of lies he’s told that she’s believed simply because she wanted to believe that the promises the man she loves were making to her were true. God I hope she tears him a new one when she finds out everything he’s kept from her and lied to her about. She’s clearly upset over feeling like she has to use the dagger, she kinda hates herself for resorting to that, and the reason she’s feeling like that is because of crap he’s done.
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ParticipantHAPPY BISON DAY!!! 🙂
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ParticipantNow that we’ve had it confirmed that we’ll see Lily again, I’m more curious about who could be.
She wore a black hoodie, though she never had the hood up, but if she had have, she’d have been wearing a black hood, which would have made her look a bit evil. Due to that, and the name Lilith which has the demon association, I wanna say that Lily isn’t a good girl.
She seemed to be wearing a key, which it’s impossible to get a good, clear screencap of, but you can tell the shape from the shadow in this one…
And she wore a cuff, which reminded me a bit of the hat box…
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ParticipantToday I’m feeling like Bonnie definitely killed Sam. Bonnie’s true loyalty and love is to Annalise, but Annalise can’t see that, she thinks Bonnie only cares about Sam, which is increasingly frustrating for Bonnie. With the growing animosity that Bonnie has been witness to with that marriage, she decided to prove her love for Annalise by setting her free of Sam. Bonnie only sees the moments of tension, she doesn’t see the moments of, “I need you,” so she thinks she’s doing Annalise a huge favour getting rid of him.
I reserve the right to completely change my mind 50 times in the next two weeks, but right now, that’s what I reckon.
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