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Looking at Julian’s tweets, he had a pic from a candy shop and I swear I remember being in a similar one in Vancouver, but he’s also got a pic of him at Big Sur that was only posted 13 hours ago, and that’s in California. So I wouldn’t necessarily count on there being any Philip along with Aurora.
[adrotate group="5"]I'm from Dublin, I shouldn't be cold. LA has ruined me. (Shall I say I'm Frozen ;-)) ?) Xx ❄️ http://t.co/HkNtkn7Go2
— Sarah Bolger (@SarahBolger) October 1, 2014
I think this whole arc is gonna come back to the question of “what is fate?” Regina said she wants to change her fate, Sidney said that was impossible, Regina insists it can be done if they can find the person who wrote the original fate of everyone in the book and make them change it. But in the end that will prove futile because you make your own “fate” by way of your actions, it’s not a thing that the Book’s author decides or controls. At the end of the day it comes down to the individual deciding to do the right or wrong things and where that inevitably leads them, so if Regina wants to change her fate, she’ll have to do it herself, and S4 will be her discovering that.
Also why does Hook think Emma is avoiding him when it’s only been “almost a full day” since their kiss (basing that time frame on Rumple saying he and Belle had been married “almost a full day” and the CS kiss happened at the same time as the wedding). Was Hook expecting Emma to suddenly be attached to his hip?
Of course he was. His experience with women is having them fall at his feet, (sometimes because they had too much booze in them to actually be able to stand, but falling for him nonetheless), and his last actual meaningful relationship, Milah, ditched her husband, her kid, and her home at the drop of a hat to devote herself to being with him 24/7. It may annoy me how he’s bugging Emma, it annoys me to see him act pathetic with the puppy eyes, but at least it’s true to character in the sense that he honestly wouldn’t be expecting her to be so resistant, given his previous experience with women.
So I decided that 401 with Neal would have gone mostly the same, but instead of Hook pestering Emma, Neal would have been understanding and kind and sympathetic and told her to take her time and get her bearings. And when Emma said have patience, he wouldn’t have made an off hand comment about being patient until a monster came and killed him. Neal would have understood.
Neal wouldn’t have tried to come onto her in the first place because he understands that that’s not a thing she needs on top of the current situation.
Also, I wonder if Neal might have gone to seek out Regina? He’d care about her being messed up because that has the knock on effect of Henry (and Emma) being upset, so after giving her some time to chill out a bit, he might have gone to find her and been all, “Look, it sucks when your parent is going all evil and lashing out at everyone, you and I both know that, and our kid shouldn’t have to deal with that, so I know it’s not always easy to make the right choices, but please just think before you do anything nuts and end up alienating Henry for 300 years.” Of course, then they couldn’t have her go and do the nutty thing without it making her look worse, so that might not have worked in the grand scheme, but it woulda been nice to see Neal and Regina almost bonding over the evil parent situation they both know so well.
Yeah. All right. It’s pretty cool.
Anyone can take her to a place with regular boring chairs. Neal took her to a place with chairs that can fly!
I actually had more trouble with the recap before the show, since they had to actively go out of their way to exclude him from that. Roomie posed the excellent question of, if they’re going to acknowledge him in the show, why work so hard to exclude him from the recap? It’s all so odd.
Because they’re hoping that Frozen will earn them a crapload of new viewers (and judging by the ratings, mission accomplished), and they don’t want said new viewers to get bogged down in wondering if there could have been some other guy Emma loved that would have made for a better story, they just want them to see the beautiful. blossoming relationship between her and Hook and accept it no questions asked. So assuming those potential new viewers were also watching the recap show, it makes sense to erase Neal and talk up CS, and then in the actual episode, when they did address Neal, it wasn’t at all in relation to Emma.
No patience and understanding. Coming from a person who has experienced both the extremely impatient SO and now married to one of the most patient, kind, understanding men I have ever met… i am SO grateful I saw the light. JustSeeing the impatience on this show makes me sad. I didn’t realize what I could have. So I just hate to see that glorified.
I noticed that Emma told Hook to be patient. If I thought they were doing that to cause some actual character development for Hook instead of just using it as a device to draw out the angst a bit more, I’d have liked that line. Dear Hook, persistence and patience are NOT the same thing.
This show has made me plenty angry recently, but bless the promo stuff for 402 for making me legit LOL twice now, first with warlord Bo Peep and now THAT HAIR. Stick a wind machine on him and he’d look like the cover of a cheesy romance novel.
The graveyard scene gave me conflicting feels.
First of all, Bobby’s fabulous, there’s no disputing that, it’s not his fault if they give him certain things to say, he played what he was given like a pro.
When he started recalling the father/son moment from long ago, that was tug at the heartstrings kinda stuff. I didn’t mind that he said it was the first time he’d felt like a real man, because it felt to me like a moment of wanting his son to know how much that time had meant to him and that he hadn’t forgotten it, despite the many years since that had corrupted himself and their relationship. I do understand the argument that it was selfish in tone though, can totally see how it can be read that way.
The first bit that jarred for me was when he mentioned Belle, because it felt like, “But no biggie, I’m not alone even though you’re dead, coz I’ve got someone else to love now,” which…no…just…wrong.
Admitting he was making the same mistakes in that relationship though, that’s a positive, he knows he’s being an idiot all over again, and you can’t have redemption without some self realisation and accepting your flaws in the first place.
But then he tried to justify what he’d done with, “But I had to, so I could avenge your death.” Like, dude, I know I just gave you points for self realisation a second ago, but I’m taking them all away and then some because your son doesn’t wanna hear you justifying killing anyone for any reason and that’s a thing you should bloody well know! *HEADDESK*
Then he vowed to do better, which was a plus. But then later in the ep he stole the Dagger back from Belle again, so really he’s not trying too hard to keep that promise he just made to Neal, is he?
I did appreciate the note it ended on though, where he said, “Your heroism showed me the way,” because it almost felt like maybe they were trying to retcon that STUPIDITY from the death scene when Neal credited Rumple with having been the good influence that he learned selflessnes from, and good God that line makes me RAGE, so seeing Rumple essentially admit that Neal was the better, stronger, braver one, I liked that.
So, the problem with that scene as a whole was that if we were gonna get Rumple at Neal’s grave, it shouldn’t have been a moment that was soured with those glaring negatives, because it just makes the whole thing feel like salt in the wound and not entirely genuine. They coulda kept it simple, had him TRY to find words, but inevitably just had him give up and kneel down and cry and say, “I’m so sorry Bae,” and that would have been pretty much perfect. It would have echoed his hopelessness and heartbreak in the scene right after the portal closed and Bae was gone. It’d get across the message that he’s grieving the loss of his son intensely, and he knows he’s still screwing up, and then if we saw him do things after that like giving up the Dagger, it’d still be clear that the grave moment was the moment when he resolved to do better in the aftermath of losing his son (again) because it had effected him on a profound I-can’t-even-find-words-to-say level. They just made the whole thing too elaborate and butchered the over all emotion of it in the process.
