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There’s a show here called Offspring. The main character is Nina, and at the end of last season she was in a relationship with Patrick (it wasn’t perfect, they were in counselling) and they were having a baby. Patrick died suddenly, was hit by a car, seemed to be OK, but then collapsed and died shortly after. Shortly after his funeral, she gave birth to their daughter.
The first ep of the new season was tonight, and it picked up 6 months later, and OMG I wish you could all watch it because they dealt with her losing him in such a real way. She still had moments of joy, but also moments of extreme sadness. There was a scene where her family were discussing how maybe she needs to get out there again and try to move on, and Nina overheard, and she said that she doesn’t really know what she wants from all of them, because what she wants from them is constantly changing, because her moods are so unstable and conflicting still. Then there was a scene where she told her sister that being happy didn’t necessarily mean moving on to dating someone new, that she’d had the great love of her life and she may never be interested in dating anyone again, and if that’s the case, then that’s OK. In another scene, when she thought her former counsellor was trying to hint that he was interested in her, (turns out he’s actually interested in her sister) she blurted out, “I’m very much in love with Patrick still.” In moments when she needs Patrick to be there, she sees him, she feels him, she talks to him and he talks back.
Watching that, it made me wish all the more that Once took the time to deal with things like this properly.
[adrotate group="5"]Linking for language but ALL OF THIS. And this sentence in particular just got me: “they’re not just on the same page. they’re filling in each other’s blanks.”
And oh…the amount of dancing that went into this episode when it came to Milah. I was twitching the entire time.
After this ep, I’m more confident that Emma is pretty clueless about Hook’s past. She didn’t seem in the know about exactly why Rumple was wanting Hook dead, and she asked Past!Hook how he got the hook. I’m at the point were I just want Smee to rat out (pun) Hook and blurt out all his secrets so Emma actually knows who she’s getting involved with. Any time she goes to do the nasty with Hook, she’s gonna see Neal’s mother’s name emblazoned on his arm, but she doesn’t even know what she’s looking at. I just can’t.
Corbin, thanks for passing on the message from EnchantedFan. I hope her mum is OK.
This is something Phee brought up elsewhere but can I just say that I think it was super disrespectful to imply that Neal only ever brought Emma pain by cutting to Hook and Emma kissing during the Voice Over Wedding vows???
HOW!? Her definition of HOME was Neal and it was because NEAL WAS RIGHT that she got her magic back.
By god. They man died! Leave their beautiful relationship alone.
Dude for real. And even if you wanna leave shippy stuff out of it…SHE WOULDN’T HAVE HENRY IF NOT FOR NEAL. So they can eff off with implying that love has only ever brought her pain. Love brought her her definition of home. She wouldn’t have even come to that realisation in this episode, if not for what Neal told her. She wouldn’t have come back around to believing in herself in this episode in order to get back to SB if not for Neal. She wouldn’t have been in SB with her family at all if not for Neal. Only brought her pain MY ARSE. Pffffft! And in that post you’re referencing, I even said it’s disrespectful to Milah, and I can’t freaking stand Milah, but seriously, she and Hook seemed pretty freaking happy for a while there, he only held onto his love for her for a couple hundred years, so STFU with implying that she never brought him any happiness. Good God! *FLIPS TABLE*
It definitely looks like the same design from the Disney movie.
I don’t remember if they mentioned where it was at…BUT here is my take on it, could it be the Cave of Wonders from Aladdin..? Now I haven’t watched OUATiW at all, but I do know Jafar is introduced there so I am sorry if that is automatically incorrect, but it makes sense to me.
We didn’t get the Cave of Wonders on WL. We got some stuff in Agrabah, but nothing to do with Aladdin or the Cave.
For a change I would prefer to have a character not related by blood to any of the (regular, recurring) characters on OUaT or Wonderland.
It’s probably safe to say that that’s what we’d ALL prefer. But knowing this show’s track record, I wouldn’t count on it.
Never got into Wonderland, and think that goes for plenty of viewers of OUaT. So they would have to do a bit of additional telling, repeating parts of her story on the mother show, to make the connection to Anastasia thrilling on OUaT – highly doubt that many would like to have to watch Wonderland to get why that could be interesting or make any sense. Or in other words: If anyone can convince me that making Elsa one of the stepsister of Cinderella (who were cruel to here, weren’t they?) has any worth on it’s own maybe it could work, but you have to try without mentioning Wonderland even once. Give me a good story and not just some wishful family tree and name wordplay.
I think they could make WL Ana, Frozen Ana, without too much confusion for people who didn’t watch WL. The earliest flashback we got for Ana was after she’d left home to live with Will. We saw her mother when she came to tell her off for being a failure and complaining about how her stepsister had married a Prince and that’s how we found out she was Cinderella’s stepsister. So if they flashback to earlier than that to show Ana and Elsa both living at home as sisters, that’s new material even for people who watched WL. During the course of the show, we saw Ana and Will leave FTL for WL, and how she became and ruled as the Red Queen, then at the end of the show, she and Will were reunited and it was implied that they ruled WL from then on as the White King and Queen. So if they wanted to show Elsa’s sister Ana in present day as White Queen, again that would be new material even for people who watched WL. The middle part of Ana’s story, that we saw on WL, wouldn’t really be necessary if she’s just a supporting player in Elsa’s story.
You would still have the issue of Elsa having not been born royal, but she’d have a mother who is hellbent on her daughters marrying into royalty so they could easily make her a Queen that way. If they want to run with the implication from the movie that she’s a lesbian, then maybe her dark side can stem from having been forced into a loveless marriage with a man and having to be someone she’s not, which caused her to act out. Have her redemption arc be in her finally being allowed to be herself, which will lead to her finding a woman to truly love.
What if Neal was alive and ended up in the past with Emma. (I think Neal would tease her when she got in her FTL outfit)
sourceI didn’t like that they cut away to other couples during the vows. Tainted though that wedding may be, that was a much longed for moment for Rumbelle and their shippers, which should have been purely about THEM. And don’t even get me started on how disrespectful it was to Neal (and Milah) to imply that all he (and she) ever brought Emma (and Hook) was pain.
This Dates With Neal Cassidy blog may be my undoing if they keep at it. Just read this one and it made me weepy. In fact, Imma copy and paste the whole ficlet, because it’s just that good.
She was soaked to the bone. Her hair was heavy with rain, hanging down dripping wet against her back. The dress she’d lifted out of a Goodwill donation bin three days ago clung to her skin, tight and sticky—she’d seen a shy smirk on Neal’s face as he looked just away from her, pretending not to notice.
They held hands tightly as they ran through the downpour, fingers locked together in a vice grip like the offending raindrops might try to pull them apart. Neal tugged her onto the sidewalk and under an awning, grinning sheepishly as Emma finally let go of his hand, bending her head over to wring out her hair.
“Not exactly what I had in mind when I said ‘walk in the park in the rain,’ sorry,” he said, leaning against the wall and scratching at his head. Emma laughed a little, shaking her head.
“We can’t get back in the car like this, we’ll never get the mildew smell out,” she said, raising her eyebrows.
“So we’ll find a McDonald’s and camp out under the hand dryer, should only take a coupla hours, right?” he grinning, reaching out to wrap a hand around her hip, pulling her back to him. She rolled her eyes, leaning against him anyway, burying her face against the warm-damp skin of his neck. “Oh, hey. We’ll find a laundromat, I’ve been meaning to show you how to jimmy the machines, anyway.”
“Mm, ‘kay,” she mumbled, nodding a little. She pressed a quick kiss against his neck, picking up his hand and playing with his fingers, idly. “So what’s your thing with the rain, anyway? This is the third time in two weeks you’ve walked us into a torrential downpour because you wanted to play in the rain,” she teased.
Neal laughed, shaking his head and pressing a kiss to the top of her head. “S’kinda stupid,” he shrugged.
“I like stupid. I live with you,” she looked up, grinning. He rolled his eyes, sticking his tongue out at her.
“My thing with the rain,” he sighed, his voice getting sort of soft and distant— the way it always did when he was about to tell her something particularly real.
“When I first got here—” he gestured sort of vaguely with one arm— she couldn’t tell if he meant here as in Portland or here as in on the street, but she’d had enough of a past of her own to never push Neal for details he didn’t give. “There was this movie theater I used to sneak into. Old-style, just a coupla screens. They had this marathon one day, these old classic romance films, and I stayed the whole day because I figured I had nowhere else to go. There’s always rain in those, you know? In those big romantic gesture moments, they’re always kissing in the rain and the girl’s foot pops up, and I don’t know, it’s always raining,” he rambled.
“You’re dragging me out in the rain because you want a big romantic moment?” she grinned.
He shrugged a little, giving her a small smiled. “Sometimes, when we’re…when something’s really happy, you know? Sometimes it feels like that moment, that really happy moment, it needs rain.”
“Yeah,” she said, quietly. “I think I get that. You’re getting wet and it’s cold and your hair’s messed up, and you know you’re really happy because—”
“Because you don’t care,” he finished, smiling softly. “Yeah. Exactly.”
Emma bit her lip. “I like the rain,” she said, quietly. Neal grinned so widely the skin around his eyes crinkled, gently cupping her face with his hand and leaning in to kiss her, slow and teasing, his thumb tracing down her jawline, gently.
“I like you,” he murmured.
This would have been the perfect love story….
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