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Well, for one thing, if Emma thinks he had anything to do with Neal’s death, it’s not going to be pretty. (At least, that would be in character. The way things have been lately …)
A&E said we’re going to see the ramifications of Neal’s death. I wonder if this is what they mean.
Many people said that the hospital scene made it seem like Hook knew that Neal was a dead man. I haven’t personally bought into that 100% because if Hook knew that Neal was a dead man, knew information that could potentially help them prevent that happening, and he didn’t say anything and just let him die…that would be the lowest, and I might prefer Hook piratey, but I don’t want to see him stoop that low in regards to Neal. Though on the flipside, his comment about Neal being a villain would be easier to swallow if he said it because he knew that Rumple was in that body as well.
Even if it turns out he didn’t know about Rumple and Neal, but did know about Zelena’s identity, keeping that information to himself contributed in a way to Neal’s death, because the only reason Rumple and Neal got separated was so Rumple could tell them Zelena’s name. If Hook knew her name, and had told them, then it wouldn’t be as urgent for Rumple and Neal to be split, and they could have perhaps found a safer way to separate them that allowed Neal to live.
Maybe Hook didn’t have awareness of those things, but if he did, then I bloody well hope he’s held accountable in a significant way. And if he did cast the Curse, magic comes with a price, and that was some major magic, so he’s still got a price to pay even if he cast the Curse without actual knowledge of Zelena or any of that.
Perhaps they will leave Emma’s true love dead; my optimism is significant that we will see otherwise, but I make allowance that he will not return. But I am CERTAIN Hook will not be shown as her true love. They have made too many moves (even during and post-315, when supposedly the big shift happened,) that show Hook as far too questionable. COULD they have redeemed Hook as a worthy love for Storybrooke’s savior? Yes, they could have… but they did not. The buildup of the story dictates that very soon, we should see the beginning of Hook’s misdeeds begin to unravel – perhaps as soon as 319, it sounds like. They have had too many weird, intentional, pointed moments to sweep them under the rug.
All of this!!
[adrotate group="5"]And imdb has an actress listed as the Witch of the North for 320: https://oncepodcast.com/forums/topic/karen-holness-cast-as-the-witch-of-the-north/
So, besides the hair, what do you think the curious thing is?
Saw a tumblr post the other day where someone said that when they saw the title, they immediately thought of the song lyrics, “The power of love is a curious thing.” Considering they’re talking about messing with time travel, I’d say that using a line from the big song from Back To The Future might be a thing they’d do. If we’re gonna find out who cast the Curse, that will certainly involve “The Power Of Love” due to the sacrifice needed, and also possibly the motivation behind the Curse being cast.
FWIW, lots of people commented that the end of 311 with Hook at Emma’s door felt VERY Back To The Future, so if that was intentional, and if they’re naming the ep where someone casts the Curse after the song from that same movie…it’s a bit convoluted, but nevertheless, it just adds to my suspicions about Hook’s role with the Curse.
Well, then, Hook couldn’t have used his ship to cast the curse. He loves his ship but he loves Emma far more.
His relationship with the ship spans a couple of centuries, almost every moment spent together, on countless escapades and adventures, it was his home. He’s known Emma for a couple of months, (not including the year spent apart), half that time they were adversaries, and they were never actually in a relationship. No contest which one he’d love more IMO.
Regina’s costume is recycled from Heart Is A Lonely Hunter. Same necklace too, but different earrings.
Was eating when I came across this on tumblr just now, and almost choked on food because LOL!!
sophy-says’ response to someone asking if she thinks Neal might come back.
Um…. it’s hard to say anon.
On the one hand they buried his body and that seems pretty final.
On the other hand, if I were writing this show I wouldn’t be passing up my opportunity for a love triangle. As much as people say they hate it, competition is what keeps them invested and shipping hard. For a little while Hook fans will enjoy having a monopoly on Emma, but eventually they’ll realize they have nothing to struggle about and well… most people like Snow/Charming but few people actually ship it since Katherine’s been out of the picture.
This is why it would make sense from the writers’ standpoint to kill Neal off ‘permanently’ – actually temporarily. Emma, believing she and Neal will now never have their second chance, can plausibly move on to Hook (okay, I wouldn’t say it was plausible, but the writers would). Then when she and Hook have been developed enough as a real alternative to what Emma had with Neal… Neal reappears in the season 3 finale! Season 4 is the year of the love triangle.
I just can’t see them passing up that opportunity. As for how they’d do it, I’m not sure – but I have heard talk of time travel, which might work.
Other reasons I think Neal will be back:
– Henry’s lack of memories. Obviously he’s going to regain them at some point. It would be terrifically cruel to have him remember his father whilst knowing that he’s already dead and he never mourned him at the time or got to say goodbye. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a light at the end of that tunnel.
– IT’S FREAKING NEAL ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
– I can’t believe they would put that much effort into crafting a ship for Emma that parallels her parents’ relationship so strongly and… toss it aside. That’s a lot of painstaking work down the drain.
– If Neal was going to be dead-dead and never coming back I would have thought the writers would save that for the S3 finale and I would have thought they would build up his relationships with Emma, Henry and Rumple so that there would be maximum shock and heartbreak. Doing it mid-season seems weird and makes me wonder whether it’s the set-up for a S3 finale in which Neal returns, dun dun dun – or rejoice, whatever the case may be.
I’m not necessarily on board with the stuff she said about the triangle potential, because I think if Neal comes back, Hook will be the main character who 100000% dies. But it’s true what she says about the current situation meaning the CSers have a monopoly on Emma. Frankly, if they were gonna kill Hook off, I could see why they might want to create that monopoly situation, to give the CSers some stuff while they still could.
Her other, non-triangle related points are all excellent ones IMO.
Don’t they mean Neal “had to die” to make room for Hook to swoop in on Emma? I still don’t buy that Neal “had” to die for story-driven reasons. If Neal really wanted to honor his father’s sacrifice, he should’ve left well enough alone. It was only because the writers decided to ‘reset’ everything, even though it was working fine. Don’t try and fix something if it isn’t broken. Now I fear, it may be too late.
I absolutely rolled my eyes at their answer to that question. They originally wrote Neal as being determined to NOT go down a similar path to his father, then they ended up “loving the idea” that Neal would go down the same path as his father? Please. They need to go back and re-watch some S2 episodes of their own show. Neal had already come to terms with what his father had done by the end of 3A, so putting him through this in 3B “so he would finally realise and understand what his father did,” is a load of crap. Puh-lease. *eyeroll*
And then in the next question, they say that August will definitely be back at some point. Ummmm, the only context they could incorporate August again is in relation to Neal, because August didn’t interact with any other characters during the time in his life that’s still unaccounted for. Does not compute.
