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Emma’s not Glinda, but the actress is a dead ringer for JMo, which is why from the moment they announced Sunny Mabrey’s casting, and I looked up a pic of her, I figured Glinda had to be part of the family.
They did not gave Z insinuate “there might be a way to bring him back,” they had her indicate he is still alive. Which is particularly interesting, given a) writers insistence that he is dead and b) the fact that they indicate “dead is dead,” so to introduce the concept that he is not dead is pretty humongous.
Yes, was quite curious indeed!
[adrotate group="5"]Belle only listed brains, courage, and a resilient heart as being ingredients for time travel spells, she didn’t mention baby parts.
If Zelena succeeds, that’s Eva, Snow, Emma and Henry that never exist. Charming would get another TL. Rumple would need a new Saviour.
But the way Rumple said, “To find my boy…perhaps never give him up,” sounds like he’s thinking of highjacking Zelena’s spell to go back to the portal and this time NOT let go of Bae’s hand. If that happened, there’d be no need for the Curse. Cora would probably still get pregnant and give Zelena up, but she wouldn’t have had Rumple to help her marry Henry, so Regina may well have never existed. Without Rumple around, James wouldn’t have been taken, nor would David, they’d have grown up on the farm. Leo and Eva probably still got together and had Snow, but she’d have to meet Charming some other way because he wouldn’t be a Prince in a carriage and she wouldn’t have been a Bandit on the run. As long as Snow and Charming still met, Emma would still exist, but Henry never would. Bae and Rumple would have lived out their lives and died in the Land Without Magic long before any of these people were born, (unless they both ended up in Victorian England with the Darlings and the Shadow still came for Bae, in which case I guess Rumple could have had a whole different quest to get back to his son). Rumple never would have confronted Milah and Killian, so she wouldn’t have died that way and he never would have become Hook, or gone to NL.
I dunno whether the “BOOM” was meant to make me happy or sad, but she could have just said “YES” instead, so I can’t help but think it was said intentionally.
I dunno whether they dangled the idea that he could still be seen alive again as a cruelty, or as a sign to have hope of seeing him again.
I do know that Rumple’s idea of the use of time traveling is different to Zelena’s, because Rumple mentioned, “perhaps never give him up” which is going way back before the point in time where Zelena wants to go. Zelena still wants to cast the Curse, so her version of events would still include Neal in our world. Rumple’s pondering the possibility of going all the way back to the portal and not letting go of Bae’s hand.
I was gonna say something about maybe they didn’t use Neal’s name because names are powerful and it might invoke something they’re not ready to have happen storywise yet, but his name would have been said plenty at the funeral (even though we didn’t get to hear it), and I can’t recall if Rumple said his name before or after he died, but it very well could have been after, so scratch that idea, they just left his name out because WHY?!
In the book, Glinda lives in the Quadling Country…
The Great Waterfall is the highest waterfall in all the Land of Oz. It is located in the Quadling Country.
The waterfall is like a sheet of silver dropping far, far down into a tiny lake which seems to have no outlet. From the top of the fall, the banks gradually slope away so that the descent by land is quite easy, while the river glides over an edge of rock and tumbles down to the depths below.
At the foot of the waterfall there is a pool of whirling water, and the river flows underground until it comes to the surface again in another part of the country.
A narrow space at the edge of the sheet of falling water leads behind it, and past this dangerous entrance there is room to walk upright. This leads to an opening in the wall of rock, and within it a series of steps descend into a cavern below. The first steps are slippery and wet with spray, but the remainder are quite dry. After the steps is a short tunnel, high enough to walk erect in.
The cave itself is lined with countless rubies, exquisitely cut and flashing sparkling rays. In the center is a bubbling cauldron of water where the river rises again. At the rear of the cave is a dim abyss where the black and dreary-looking river plunges in its final dive underground.
http://oz.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Waterfall
Bubbling cauldron of water…
Frozen waterfall?..
Do they realm jump to Oz, or does Glinda just come to them? Is she even really there, or is she just a vision?
What and where is that and why is Charming falling over? Does it have something to do with how they meet Glinda?I’m totally okay with him being a rando jerk, but I’m hung up on HOW magical Z is. How does a jerko gardener and the miller’s peasant daughter produce the most magical creature of all time? I’m sure we’re done with the storyline, but it does make me wonder if he could be a wizard of sorts.
I’m going with the fact that Cora would have been seething with hatred and jealousy of Eva and Jonathan for the majority of her pregnancy, and it affected the baby. Zelena absorbed all that negative energy, and when combined with her genetic predisposition for magic, she became a magic baby.
Either that or she got zapped with magic lightening when she was sucked up in the magical twister.
I’ve had many headcanons. If I’m proved wrong, I’ll get over it and accept their story without any qualms, as long as their story makes sense.
I was convinced that Rumple and Pan were brothers, but the way they wrote them as father and son, it made sense, it worked, and I’m fine with having been wrong, because the story we got was still pretty great and imaginative and believably emotional.
I was convinced that someone, like the Darling Bros, had to have interfered to orchestrate Henry being adopted by Regina, because I may not know much about the adoption process, but I’m pretty sure that a baby born in a jail in Phoenix doesn’t just end up being adopted clear on the other side of the country, (by a prospective parent who never had a home visit done by the agency), like it’s nothing unusual. So the way they wrote that story fell WAY short of the mark for me, I found it lacklustre and unbelievable, so will forever say that fandom headcanons were better than what we got.
Keep characters in character, make the events believable, and I’ll accept the canon story, even if it contradicts with my preconceived headcanon. But if the canon story doesn’t make sense, if characters act in ways that contradict how they’ve been previously established, if I can’t even fanwank a way to rationalise it in my head, then it will become a pet peeve, because it takes me out of the believability of the story.
Nice that Regina apologized to Belle. Much better than the one Hook “attempted” (sorry. Don’t try to convince me other wise)
Belle calling Regina out and Regina sincerely apologising was my fave moment, (almost cheered when Belle called her out so emphatically). It was a much needed moment if they wanted to show those two interacting in a believable way from here on in. And it was a stark contrast to the scene where Belle called Hook out and he said “sorry?” with a question mark. Both scenes even happened in the same place, which just highlights the contrast between Hook and Regina’s sincerity levels for me. And Regina didn’t have an audience to see her doing it, it was just her and Belle alone, and she accepted responsibility for what she’d done because she knew that Belle deserved a genuine apology.
One thing I don’t understand is why Snow thinks Eva was dark/bratty for telling Cora’s secret. Cora really was lying to Leopold and really was pregnant with another man’s child. In Eva’s eyes, Cora had stolen her fiancee and was deceiving Leopold. I don’t understand why Snow is upset by that. I say that as a Regina fan. Now if Eva had made up that Cora was pregnant and framed her in someway it would be different. Am I missing something?
That bugged me too, which sucks because it distracted from what was otherwise a touching scene of Snow and Regina connecting, and I do enjoy seeing their relationship grow.
If I knew a guy who was gonna marry someone, and I found out that she was pregnant to some other guy, and hadn’t told her fiancee, I’d bloody well tell him. If I knew she was stealing from him, I’d bloody well tell him. Granted, starting gossip that spread through the whole castle like Eva did was a bratty way to do it, but the fact that she told Leo isn’t a bad thing IMO. It’s certainly not the same situation as Snow having told Cora about Daniel, because let’s be real, Cora already knew about Daniel, and she manipulated Snow to create a situation where she could put on a show and kill him. Eva was just looking out for Leo’s best interests so he didn’t marry the woman who was lying to and stealing from him.
I’m just gonna assume that there was a moment off screen in Stable Boy where Leo saw Cora and she said, “Surprise Leo, remember me? Remember how I was gonna marry you and be a queen, until that wench Eva wrecked it? Well LOLZ I killed her to set it up so you’d marry my daughter instead. And if you DON’T marry my daughter, I’ll kill YOUR daughter just like I killed your wife, and don’t think I won’t because who do you think spooked Snow’s horse just now which almost resulted in her death? So, I’m sure you have an e-ring on you, so let’s go have you meet Regina. And not a word about any of this to anyone, or Snow is toast, K.”
