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ParticipantYAY COOKIES! Now I hope even more that it happens. š
Seriously though, that’s why I started writing it out in the first place, (before it morphed into an actual fanfic thing), to show how I’ve used actual canon themes and logic to come up with the crack headcanon. It’s not just random musings, it’s musings based on what the show has actually given us, because I love me some context.
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ParticipantLOL Thanks Heather, glad you enjoyed reading it. š
April 10, 2014 at 7:07 am in reply to: TVLine: A&E Address The Death, Other Questions, and MRJ's Speaking Out #260523Phee
ParticipantThe interview also gives off the impression that Matt was told back in January that the permanent death was Neal.
Comment from Matt on another of his articles…
Simmer down, everyone. āMajor characterā was my choice of words, only because āa character played by a series regularā is clunky to say. All A+E said was that a series regular was being killed off the show, and the death was real/would stick.
Can’t link directly to his post, but it’s in the comments on this article.
His question in the interview: “And, as you told me previously, Michael could come back for a flashback down the line,” doesn’t necessarily mean that he was told back then that it was MRJ specifically leaving. One of this comments on this article is, “A&E never said the killed-off character wouldnāt possibly appear in flashbacks.”
So all things considered, my interpretation is that a couple of months ago, Matt was told that a non-specific main character would be killed and the character would be no more, Matt asked, “Not even in flashbacks?” and they told him they weren’t ruling out flashbacks for whoever it was. (Sidenote: I don’t really see how flashbacks for Neal would be possible if he’s dead in present day, because in the missing year he’s inside Rumple, and any other flashbacks in Neal’s life wouldn’t have a connection to a living character in present day, because he was out in our world alone for all that time, so said flashbacks would be completely disjointed with the present day story, and there wouldn’t be any point in filling in those years for Neal anyway if his character is in the past and the show has moved on. So why they would say the character might still be in flashbacks, if the character is Neal, that doesn’t really make sense IMO.)
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ParticipantSoooo, I started writing out the details of my end of season headcanon…and it sorta became a four page fanfic thing? I’m not a “writer” by any means, it’s rather pedestrian in style, but yeah, anyway, at least now if it doesn’t happen on the show, it still totally happened because I wrote it. š
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Okay, beyond being a giant ball of sadness, Quiet Minds was also like one giant hereās why i love Neal Cassidy manifesto for me, and this moment is really important to me and I need to talk about it.
Hereās whatās going on: Neal just showed up out of nowhere in the woods, collapsed on the floor of his fatherās shop, canāt remember the past year or what he did, including an ominous scary mark on his hand and how he got it, and the father he just watched die is apparently alive and missing. So:
1. Nealās first thought is immediately about the son he canāt remember fighting to get back to. Because the one constant about Neal Cassidy since the moment he found out he had a son is that Henry is the first thing, the most important thing. Because so much of this episode, about Nealās entire arc since Manhattan, has been about his desire to be a better father to Henry than he ever had. And I have plethora of problems with how they chose to let that play out, but the important part to me? Neal loves Henry more than anything and Henry is always always always first.
2. He actively recognizes Henry and Emma had a whole life without him. Heās had, what, five minutes to process that a whole year passed? Emma and Henry have memories together that heās not going to be a part of. They had a whole year of reality, and in that first gifāheās letting it sink in that he missed another whole year of his sonās lifeā heās probably taller now, more of a teenager, likes and dislikes a whole new set of things and Neal missed all of itā and Iām sure that absolutely wrecks him. He wants to see him. But heās not going to push. Heās not going to force his way in as Henryās father in whatever thing the two of them have goingā he wants to be Henryās father more than anything, but he knows itās not just about him. He doesnāt get to slot himself him, but he wants more than anything to work to find his place there.
Neal hasnāt really had a family since he was 14 years old and itās all heās ever wanted. Heās capable of making really impulsive decisions when it comes to Emma and Henry. They make him beyond desperate. But thereās a line to that, and whatās so interesting to me is that line is only ever drawn by Henry and Emmaās best interest. Heās willing to do whatever it takes to get back to them, to be there when they need and want, but on their terms. Because his love for Henry and Emma is about Henry and Emma, not about how badly he needs them.
tl;dr neal cassidy, ultimate family man who never got a chance to be a family man my tears could fill oceans goodbYE.
April 10, 2014 at 12:29 am in reply to: TVLine: A&E Address The Death, Other Questions, and MRJ's Speaking Out #260507Phee
ParticipantMany of us who are now disillusioned with the show feel that way because we feel that A&E have lied to us about the basic moral and message that drives their show. If we feel like they’ve already lied to us, why would we accept what they say in interviews as being gospel, as opposed to them playing with words and being trolls, (we’ve all called them trolls before for their interviews, in a more lighthearted way, only thing that’s changed is now we say it with a negative connotation).
I trust Matt Mitovitch to honestly relay any information he’s given.
I do not trust the people who gave him said information.
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ParticipantThat many of you also know how i think and that is to let fan service work and confirm Cs until the end of the season as true love and for S4 show the relation development.
If the Sneak Peek is anything to go by, Emma still has no interest in being in a relationship with Hook. They would have to give her a rapid fire 180 degree turn around if they’re actually gonna put CS together by the end of the season, which is only 6 eps away, which will probably be about a week or so in SB time. I will concede that it’s likely fan pandering just to give CSers some more screen time shared between their couple, but I remain unconvinced that CS is actually going to become a romantic relationship. It would be OOC for Emma to suddenly want a relationship with him before season’s end. And I know they’ve been writing people OOC lately, but I’m basing this on a scene that’s from an upcoming episode, which proves that even with Neal gone, Emma still doesn’t wanna date Hook, in fact she’s still planning to leave town, (and it’s not like Hook knows how to use a cell phone or Skype, so I don’t imagine she’d anticipate keeping in close contact with him after she’s left SB), so judging by what we currently know, that’s the trajectory they’re writing for Emma’s character in regards to Hook. So I can’t buy into the idea that they killed off Neal to make way for CS to be endgame instead, which plays into why I can’t believe completely that Neal’s not coming back.
Wow..sorry for the drabble I just needed to get this of my chest after an interesting discussion with my boss about all this mess.
I love your drabble, and your boss sounds wise! See how easy it would have been for them to have Neal die in a more respectful way!
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ParticipantBecause without Zelena, rumple would still be inside the vault , and neal would still wanted to go and bring his father back and would still try to find the key, we can say that without Zelena, they would have look for info about it and would know about life for life, but still adam and eddie can still say that neal would still go dark and would still open the vault and die, so no change in neal story, he would still be dead, although they wouldnt need the the name, but still.
That’s covered in my headcanon. Nyx gives them water from the Well of Wonders, (don’t know if you watched OUATinWL, but that’s where that comes from, and they’ve shown a Well of Wonders in FTL with Philora), to get Rumple out of the Vault instead, and there’s no need for the Key to be used, so no one has to die in order for Rumple to come back.
Considering how much it sucks and hurts that they killed him off, and in such an awful OOC for EVERY character horribly written episode, it cannot hurt anymore for me to have a little hope for the next month or so. As a fan Iām already disillusioned and dissapointed so all I really have left is hope.
Yep, that’s where I’m at to. Hope in crackpot headcanon is motivating me to keep watching for the rest of the season.
For me and I know a lot of other people that episode was so OOC for Emma (and everyone else but thatās another story). Since when does Emma have the confidence in her own magical abilities to separate two souls/beings whatever it was?! But she was like āyeah, okay I got thisā. Um no!
Yeah that was strange for her to just do it. But I swear to God if I EVER see another CSer try to proclaim that Neal has no faith in Emma’s superpowers…
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ParticipantAnd of course. Where do you go to reset time? A large underground station called the Swan.
#BOOM
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ParticipantOkay so thatās my long winded chaotic HOPEFUL rant.
I enjoyed reading your long winded rant! That’s what this place is here for. Welcome. š
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