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ParticipantAre any of you still interested in anything about this show anymore?
Watching this new ep was different than any I’ve watched previously. I was really only watching for the plot, and was emotionally detached from the characters for almost the entire ep, (were a couple of moments where I felt Rumple’s pain). Nowhere near as fulfilling of an experience as usual.
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ParticipantJust re-watched and paid closer attention to the Hook and Henry stuff this time. Wasn’t entirely horrible, I do think Hook is having some legitimate feels about the situation. Henry’s, “How am I supposed to feel anything about him being gone if I don’t know what he was like while he was here?” That just makes me wanna weep. I wonder if when he said that, Hook made the connection to the situation with Bae and his mother, because Milah left when Bae was very young, so he probably wouldn’t have remembered much of anything about her. I know the stuff Hook talks about is about how he lost his father, but I’m just sayin’, the no memories thing correlates more closely with his mother.
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ParticipantWhy am I now picturing that scene? Also, why does it involve a one-man-band?
Musical episode!
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ParticipantAnd to the Hook/Henry scenes. There was a certain amount of tenderness and sweetness to them, but for me, it was overshadowed by the fact that I don’t have amnesia. I remember everything Hook’s ever done, including giving Bae to the Lost Boys. This will never be addressed on screen and that bugs me. He needs to give some exposition about how he tried to go after Bae or how horrible he feels. But right now it’s coming off as “I raised Bae like a loving step-papa” while forgetting everything Hook did.
Yep, THIS! With Neal gone, Hook himself is the only person who knows what truly happened between them, and he’s acting like it didn’t happen and their relationship was all sunshine and roses. Maybe they’re doing that because they want the audience to forget, (sorry if they are, because plenty of us ain’t forgetting ever), or maybe they’re doing it because Hook will eventually reach a breaking point and actually come clean about it. Obviously we’d prefer the latter. It would actually serve as some legit character development for Hook if he accepted that responsibility. I wouldn’t be willing to bet money on it being the latter though, unfortunately.
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ParticipantI don’t exactly want time travel, but then again, pretty much everyone likened the scene of Hook at Emma’s door to be like Back To The Future, so maybe they did have time travel planned. Then people are saying that Emma will go back in time to make sure her parents still meet even though there’s no Regina. But if there’s no Regina, then why is Snow dressed in her Bandit costume, because no Regina means no need for Snow to go Bandit. And wouldn’t a destined love like Snowing still happen anyway no matter if other things changed, without Emma having to go back and make sure it happened? So I dunno that the time travel theory necessarily makes sense or is likely.
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ParticipantIf Zelena got the second chance she wanted then it’s possible that there would be no curse at all
She was power hungry. She wanted to do the Curse, and Rumple still would have needed it cast, and the prophecy that Cora’s daughter would do it would still exist.
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ParticipantI’m glad you brought up WL because as I was watching, I kept thinking “this isn’t how you change the laws of magic.” So I don’t know what Jafar needed 3 genies and Zelena needs courage, heart, and brains.
Perhaps Jafar could have collected any assortment of courage, brain, and heart, just like Zelena’s doing. It just happened to be in the form of three Genies because the original plan was Amara’s plan to reunite her sons who were the Genies.
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ParticipantRegina looks young and innocent in this episode (in the flashbacks) so I assumed that the training scenes took place between engagement to Snow’s father and pushing Mummy through the looking glass.
Rumple didn’t start training Regina until after she’d pushed Cora through the looking glass though. Unless I’m mis-remembering?
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ParticipantDidn’t see the episode, but I did read the spoilers. Were the words “second chance” actually used in respect to Zelena’s plan? Because whose poster had the those same words on it?
Zelena said that to Rumple, yes. “What I’m casting isn’t a curse. It’s a second chance.”
The bit in the promo where Emma seems to be laughing does annoy me, but at the same time I have to wonder if the “can’t pretend it didn’t happen” conversation with Hook might actually be him telling her she has to grieve properly, instead of just trying to ignore the pain. The shot of her laughing is through a window, like someone’s watching her, and if there’s someone who would be creeping on Emma, it’d be Hook.
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ParticipantI’d like to have seen a bit of Alice’s visit(s) to WL as a child. Wanted to see her at the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party.
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