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April 7, 2014 at 2:33 am in reply to: 3X16 IT IS NOT EASY BEING GREEN. …. FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS #259738
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ParticipantI both liked and didn’t like the OQ stuff. I liked their conversations, I like seeing Regina have someone she can honestly talk to, I like that she literally gave him her heart, but I didn’t like how soon it happened after she’d discovered who he is. They’ve been saying that it will be hard for Regina to open up and let someone new in, and yet here she is 24 hours later, trusting him with her heart. I know she knows they’re destined, and I do like that aspect of their story, so maybe that’s how she’s justifying her actions, because she knows that destiny ensures that she can trust him, but I’m just not sure that I buy that she’d concede to trusting him that much so quickly, tattoo and pixie dust or no.
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ParticipantActually what that is, is a statue of Pazuzu, the Assyrian and Babylonian demon king of the wind. The ancients regarded him as the bringer of locusts, storms and drought. The same figurine makes an apperarance in the movie The Exorcist near the beginning of the film during the scenes in Mesopotamia (i.e. Iraq).
Was hoping someone might know if it was an actual thing, so thanks for the info. Maybe this is the guy who made the tornado that took baby Zelena to Oz.
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ParticipantIs it weird that I felt the most genuine Neal emotions in tonight’s episode (apart from Rumple, of course) came from Hook? If I didn’t feel as though those scenes were cynically setting up CS and stepdaddy Hook, I would have actually liked them unreservedly. Colin played it with a suitable amount of subdued guilt, and he actually for once seemed more concern with Bae’s legacy than anything ulterior involving Emma.
I mean, I still think he’s a long way from being consistently written, but it’s something.
Gotta admit, I half tuned out for those scenes, because the poor excuse for a CaptainFire scene last week had left a bad taste. Maybe if it had have included an apology for having turned him over to Pan, then it wouldn’t bug me so much that Hook is chilling with Henry and making like he and his dad were always buddies, but the fact that Hook hasn’t accepted responsibility for the crap he did to Bae has become a pet peeve. Maybe I need to rewatch these scenes and properly pay attention this time, to see if I can read any guilt in his expression.
Judging by the promo for next week, Zelena does seem to possibly be familiar with Hook, and while if Hook has known stuff and not told everyone I’ll appreciate that because it would be a return to his two faced S2 self which is when he was interesting to me, I’ll also probably be calling for his head, because he knew stuff that could have helped, could have prevented Neal’s death, and he didn’t do it. He’d have let Neal down again, in the worst possible way, and then tried to be buddies with his son in the aftermath. And if that’s the case, they’d better bloody well not gloss over it, they’d better show him accept responsibility and endeavour to make up for it somehow.
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ParticipantSo I guess it depends when these events took place.
I think that Zelena revealing the slippers to Rumple happened not long at all before the scene we got with Rumple, Jefferson and Regina.
Very soon after Zelena left with the slippers, Rumple put in the call to Jefferson, because he wasn’t yet fully convinced of Regina’s capabilities and also the slippers would get him to Bae much quicker than waiting out the Curse process. At the time Zelena got back to Oz, that’s also when Dorothy was there, and then Jefferson showed up and started nosing around for the slippers for Rumple, and when Zelena heard about that, she gave the slippers to Dorothy so she could take them out of Oz. Then Jefferson went back to FTL and we got the scene of him with Rumple and Regina. I’m thinking that all took place over the course of, like, a week or something, so Regina in this ep is at the same stage of her magical ability as she was in The Doctor.
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ParticipantWhat might life look like if she succeeds?
If Cora had kept Zelena, never married Henry and had Regina…
Rumple still would have found Zelena because prophecy…
Rumple still would have trained her to cast the Curse…
Zelena likely would have killed her beloved mother Cora to cast the Curse…
So we’d still have the Curse, still have SB (or some place like it in our world)…but no Emma as Saviour because no Regina, no vendetta with Snow, no Emma as the Saviour, and no Emma as Saviour means no Henry.And what all does she need?
If it’s brain, courage, heart, that’s three elements, which is similar to how they changed the laws of magic in WL, with three Genies. Each of those three Genies could maybe be classified as one of the three elements Zelena needs – Cyrus had bravado, so he’s the courage, his older brother seemed to be the stern, worried one, so he’s the brain, and the younger brother just seemed like a sweet kid, so he’s the heart. So maybe Zelena is basically just trying to cast the same spell as Jafar and Amara.
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ParticipantCould still be Leo, Cora might have deliberately gotten herself pregnant to a royal in the hopes of making him marry her, but it didn’t work out, he wanted nothing to do with her. The big problem with that though is how Leo didn’t appear to know Cora at all in Stable Boy, and also, he didn’t seem the type to turn away a child.
Zelena’s magic could have just come from Cora, I guess. It took Cora all of 2 minutes to make magic as soon as Rumple gave her instructions, so I think she had it in her all along. But it IS rather exceptional that Zelena could do it from birth, so maybe she had a magical boost from her bio dad.
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ParticipantDon’t know about anyone else, but I’m ready for someone to post a crack theory from this episode to cheer me up!
Total crack: the reason they used that echoey sound effect every time a shovel full of dirt got dumped on the coffin is because it was the sound Neal was hearing from inside it because he’s not 100% dead.
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ParticipantI don’t think she’s Dorothy. Rumple sent Jefferson to Oz to get the slippers, but Jefferson said they’d moved on, so I think Zelena gave them to Dorothy to use to get rid of them so Rumple couldn’t ever get them.
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ParticipantHeather, I’m glad your cousin is hanging in there. *HUGS*
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ParticipantDidn’t think I’d like it if Walsh turned out to be the Wizard, but I liked the way they did it. Chris Gorham was great in the scene with the reveal.
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