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Participantbut then why have regina that letter. She said she read it during training.
Yeah, it doesn’t make sense. Rumple could have only sent Cora the letter after she’d gone to WL because he wasn’t training Regna before then, and he was training Regina when he met Zelena. But Regina read it multiple times for inspiration while he was being trained. But Regina was in FTL, and the letter should have been in WL. Does not compute.
I think it was a training tool that he used to help boost Regina.
That’s the only way it makes sense, if he wrote it for Regina to find, but he never sent it to Cora.
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ParticipantThat’s what it made me think of too, Watcher.
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ParticipantI’ve never been on the team who thought that Hook has had dealings with Zelena in the past, but they do seem familiar in that scene. How does she know that he’s out of his depth unless she knows he’s been up to something? Dare I hope that this episode will give us some old school, S2, shady pirate again?
Looking forward to seeing some more of Ariel.
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ParticipantThat’s not how you send off one of your few original characters who is pivotal to why you even have a story in the first place. Nope. I haven’t watched it yet, but there was no dialogue? Even Archie’s fake funeral had dialogue. I just can’t believe that they’d send off such a vital character in such a detached way, so I remain unconvinced that they were really sending him off. #SHENANIGANS
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ParticipantThe pendant shouldn’t have survived. It wasn’t from the EF. It SHOULD NOT have gone back with Neal. But IT DID. It was in his pocket the whole time, it went with him when they left SB.
It survived when it should not have.
I don’t particularly care what anyone else says.
That’s true love.
THIS!!!!!
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ParticipantETA again, I can only find photos of the unicorns. Is it possible we’ve never seen photos of the top before? Looking at photos of that nursery, I am CRACKING UP at all of the dreamcatcher imagery. The architecture is all circles with webby lines. Mostly amused I’d never noticed it before.
Yeah I just went to look at some screencaps of the Pilot and of Charming in Gold’s shop in the Shepherd, and couldn’t see a shot of the top, so this may be the first time we’ve seen it. I too love the dreamcatcher-y imagery in the nursery!
I noticed the lack of TLK as well and it bothered me so much. The only reason I could think of why they omitted it, was that they are actually going ahead with the CS relationship. I honestly hope that isn’t the case though. It would feel too much like, oh well now that Neal’s gone, let’s get together without anything standing in our way. I realize I’m not giving the writers (and Hook and Emma) a lot of credit here. It’s just that I used to trust the writers, but I’m not so sure I should anymore.
It would be incredibly lazy writing to just kill one guy off so they can stick the girl with the other guy instead. I know there’s been lazy writing already, but that would seriously take the cake. Even if they don’t intend to show Emma and Hook in a relationship, they may have avoided the SF TLK because they want to keep how Emma feels ambiguous for a while longer, (though frankly I think it’s pretty damn obvious how she feels, but anyway), keep stringing CSers along for a while longer. If she’d kissed Neal, that would have been the end of any and all ambiguity right then and there.
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ParticipantEven adam yesterday said to a twiter that the necklace thing was just Belle giving her opinion based on her heart, so they are already taking back the true love thing.
Nothing in Adam’s comment suggests to me that he’s trying to take back the fact that it was TL.
@nymeria108 Belle was speaking from her heart
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) April 5, 2014
They KNOW how much weight the phrase “true love” carries in this show, and whatever other mistakes they make, they WOULD NOT just throw that phrase out there without it being intentional. Fact is, that thing was a cheap convenience store keychain, but it survived situations where other objects did not, so I don’t think it’s possible to dispute the fact that there IS something magical and special about it. And honestly, the fact that they threw that “true love” phrase out there but didn’t follow through on it, is one of the things that makes me suspicious that they’re holding some stuff back for later.
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ParticipantOur onset caterer saying goodbye after a long season… #OnceUponATime All new Sunday! #WickedVsEvil pic.twitter.com/oTAFnfYuRA
— Adam Horowitz (@AdamHorowitzLA) April 6, 2014
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ParticipantFinally caught other roomie up on the show, all the way. Watched 315 and ended up cracking up through the death scene – not because it was funny of course, but because other roomie repeatedly shouted at the TV – “Kiss him! KISS HIM ALREADY!!” She was VERY aggravated by the lack of a TLK, because it made no sense to her… as a non-shippy viewer. Just reiterates what we have been saying about that. Incidentally at the end of the scene, she very adamantly declared, “He’s not dead.”
I love your roomie!
Literally as I was typing that out, I was pondering what the point would be – then remembered A&E’s recent insisting that Emma & Regina are a lot alike. If RH & Neal are alike and E&R are alike then OQ & SF are a lot alike? Incidentally, if RH & R are being utilized as some sort of SF parallel (and realize here I am talking from a “there is more SF story to tell” viewpoint) then it makes their weird insertion in this episode a bit more palatable. (I definitely did think SF when RH went straight to the “have a drink” thing, but I figured it was just ship-bias.)
Good points. It could even explain the callous cut to Robin and Roland after Neal losing the chance to see his son. If this was done as a way to differentiate the two stories, at least for now, so they’re not super identical, then ultimately yes, assuming Neal does come back, I’d be able to accept that this decision was “for story reasons” in the mean time. If the death sticks, then just NOPE, go away with your “for story reasons” justification, because Neal didn’t have to be eliminated for any reason.
By the same token, if they confirmed TL then killed him in order to ultimately give Emma a quest to bring back her TL, then I’ll be able to agree that it was done, “for story reasons”, because that’s an epic fairytale romance resolution, and as the daughter of Snowing, the product of TL, and the embodiment of magic, it’s sort of Emma’s birthright to have an epic fairytale romance. But if he doesn’t come back, if they don’t even have her keep him in her heart as a driving force from now on, then nope, go away with your “for story reasons” justification.
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