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I’m thinking this could be another indicator of WickedSisters? What else would they be able to use Young Cora for?
[adrotate group="5"]I was thinking that he may be going along with whatever the witch is saying trying to get close to her and make her believe that she is controlling him.
I was thinking about something similar, (typed up a whole post on it yesterday but ended up going around in so many circles with “what ifs” that it got ridiculous and headache inducing so I never posted it), but was thinking along the lines of what if he did actually lose his magic when he stabbed himself, and is just pretending that the dagger has an effect on him, so he was able to use her to hitch a ride back to where Belle and Neal are.
Anyway, the glitch I ended up stuck on is if she’s actually tried to use his magic, as in, commanded him to do something magical, he wouldn’t be able to do it and would be busted. But then again, perhaps she hasn’t made any demands for him to use his magic, in which case that wouldn’t be an issue and the theory that he’s faking could totally work. We dunno how long she’s had the dagger for, it might not have been that long, so if he’s keeping up an act, he wouldn’t have had to keep it up for long. But if she’s ever asked him to prove himself and his powers, then the theory wouldn’t work. But if she knew about him being the Dark One back in the day, then she probably wouldn’t have asked him to prove himself, she’d had just assumed he still has his powers.
Here comes that headache again. LOL
ETA: One of the things that got me wondering if he even has magic or not was the clothes. If he’s got magic, wouldn’t he *poof* himself some decent clothes instead of the dirty old ones? Even if she’s got the dagger and is controlling him, is that something she’d be able to prevent him from doing? Or have they just gone with the dirty clothes for the visual impact of, “he’s been lost for a whole year” and I’m just overthinking it?
Something I just thought of while posting in another thread, regarding the pics of Hook and Henry. We don’t know where this campsite is, and what if it’s outside the SB border? What if there’s still a rule that keeps people trapped inside the town, and very few are exempt, and those few are Emma, Henry, (because they weren’t there when the town was re-created), and Hook, (who we know could get out of town to go to NYC, so whatever caused him to be able to do that could still be in effect). So if WW is after Regina, that potentially makes Henry a target, and if Henry can leave town but WW can’t, then the safest place for Henry is outside the SB border. And Emma obviously has stuff to do in town so she can’t leave, so Hook is the one who leaves town to go camping with Henry.
I haven’t totally ruled out the possibility that WW could be Maleficent’s sister instead of Regina’s, but even if so, I think WW’s main focus will be Regina. She’ll enjoy messing with other people too, but they won’t be her focus, just like Regina enjoyed messing with everyone, but Snow was her actual focus. It’ll be like the tables are turned on Regina, and in this new situation she is in a similar role as Snow was with her.
I can’t see Emma having LESS trust for Regina now, if anything it should be the opposite, considering Regina came full circle and allowed Emma to be in Henry’s life, and gave them happy memories to get them by in their new lives. And I can’t see Emma (or Neal) trying to exclude Regina from Henry’s life, because they know that she and Henry love each other. If Regina’s kept away from Henry at all, I think it’d only be because some technicality of the Curse actually prevents her from being near him, because she was supposed to have given him up as her ultimate sacrifice. Maybe that’s why Henry isn’t around for that scene in the street, because he has to be kept away from Regina at all times or “bad things will happen”.
If WW is by now known in SB, and known to be focused on Regina, and if they got wind of her starting some bad stuff in town, then the safest place for Henry may well be out of town. We don’t know if the campsite is within the borders of SB or outside. Maybe it’s a case of certain people still being able to cross the town border while others can’t. Obviously Hook can, if he went to NYC, and obviously Henry can, but maybe WW can’t. So maybe Hook’s the only option to babysit Henry and take him camping outside the borders of SB, the only place he’ll be truly safe from WW.
I think Blackbeard will only be in flashbacks, and considering Blackbeard was an actual real person, I don’t think the character’s name will actually be Blackbeard. I think that name is probably just a placeholder name for Davy Jones, who will be Hook’s father in flashbacks. Think it might have been slurpeez who said somewhere that his story could be similar to Will Turner in PotC, who didn’t have his father around as a child, and it wasn’t until he grew up and became a pirate himself that he discovered his father was also a pirate. In those movies, Will’s father ended up a part of Davy Jones’ crew, but I’m thinking Hook’s father will actually be Davy Jones, (which I think will foreshadow Hook’s death, because Davy Jones is associated with dead sailors).
I do agree that Hook will die when he sacrifices himself to protect Neal and/or Henry, (maybe if my theory of them being outside town because WW can’t leave town proves true, then perhaps she’ll defeat Regina in the street fight, and then be able to leave town after all, and she’ll go find Henry and Hook will have a fight on his hands). I think that this time he’s spending with Henry, teaching him how to read the stars, and how to tie nautical knots, will inevitably remind him of how he taught Bae the same things when he was not much older than Henry. That will cause him to honestly reflect on what he did to Neal when he was a kid, and he’ll resolve to do better and not make the same mistakes with Henry. Then a situation will present itself where he has the chance to prove to himself, Neal, and everyone, that he really can change and do the selfless, noble thing. In S3A we’ve had both Emma and Charming say to him, “Well you’re just a pirate,” and you can tell by his reactions to those comments that it’s a stigma he wishes he could shake. No one thinks he can change, Bae straight up told him to his face all those years ago, “I know you’ll never change,” but eventually, he truly will change, and prove himself, and it’ll mean giving his life, but he’ll save his soul, and that would be worth the sacrifice to him.
Looking at the earlier group pics, I don’t see Gorham standing in the back of the crowd, like he appears to be if that’s an actual shot of Regina walking into the scene. So does he show up at the same time as Regina? Do the rest even know he’s there, (as in, do they even know he’s in town)? Or was he there the whole time and it’s just that he was out of shot for the previous photos? Either way, he’s there in SOME capacity, and I’m intrigued.
Yep, that’s Chris Gorham alright! I think that was Kat’s big secret!
Why would she say that he was only there watching, not filming, though? Wasn’t it pretty late by the time Regina showed up? Like, after midnight late? Why would he choose to just hang around on set, after midnight, in the freezing cold, unless he was working? And why would he be standing so close if he wasn’t working? Why would he be up mingling with everyone else in the scene between takes if he was only there to stand back and watch them shooting? Makes more sense to me that he was actually there working, not just hanging out.
Does Belle see Rumple and try to run to him only to be blocked?
Dunno about that because the set report made it sound like they all got there first and THEN WW and Rumple showed up.
Tink, Emma, Belle, Snow, and Charming walk up to the group and push through to the middle.
Charming tries to calm everyone down and says “Listen up guys, you all need to get out of here!”
The Wicked Witch appears and says “No one’s going anywhere.”
The group parts like the Red Sea for her, haha!
Rumple is behind her, but he doesn’t say anything. Or I couldn’t hear him.And speaking of tumblr, here’s another thing I just found and wanted to say “PREACH” to…
Literally one of my biggest pet peeves.
“He was so cute and sweet what happened?!?!”
Oh I don’t know, he got abandoned by his parents, watched his father become the dark one and be feared by everyone he grew up with, fell through a portal alone because his father chose power of him, was forced to live on the streets in an unfamiliar world as a kid, sacrificed himself for the only people he considered family, got betrayed and handed over to and then held captive by the nastiest person he ever met (who turned out to be his grandpa in a child’s body), lived in a cave alone for HUNDREDS of years and lost so much hope that he stopped counting the days, was smart enough to find a way out of the literal hell he was in and finally got away but then, while still a child, had to once again fend for himself and grow up alone on the streets in an unfamiliar world with customs and technology he was clueless about.
Yeah, I wonder what happened to him. What a mystery. I can’t seem to place my finger on what possibly could have made him who he is today.
Everything that happened to cute little Bae when he was a kid is what shaped him and lead him to where he is today. And you know what, he still has faith in the good in people and believes the best in them, hasn’t turned to violence or “evil” as a solution to his problems, admits to and learns from his mistakes, is trying to be the best father he can be now that he knows he has a son, puts the needs and lives of others before his own, is willing and ready to face all of the people and places that scarred him to help the people he loves, and works towards forgiving and trusting those who caused him to be alone in the first place. What a terrible, terrible guy.
Anyone who can truly love Bae but truly hate Neal and not understand how one became the other needs to reevaluate their thought process.
Speaking of CaptainFire, just saw this speculation on tumblr…
It’s season finale. Wicked uses the DO dagger to force Rumple to kill his own son. Hook gets between them. Gets stabbed instead. Dies in Neal’s arms after apologizing for all the mess he made. His final words: “I told you… I could change…”
Is that Chris Gorham on the left? Didn’t Kat apparently tweet that he was just there watching, not actually filming? Because if that’s him, he looks to be standing pretty close to what’s actually being filmed, (Lana’s face looks like it’s in acting mode)?Now, I find it very interesting that the pure energy is called ZOSOzo, as in the dark one Rumple killed.
That is very interesting! Hmmmmm. And couple it with what RG posted about Pink Floyd and Oz and I can’t help but think…
There’s gotta be something more to this.Something else I’ve been wondering about in relation to her controlling him with the dagger, is I wonder if he’s playing her, because he knew she wanted to get to Regina, and he knew that Belle and Neal are with Regina, so if he could enable WW to get to Regina, he could essentially get a piggy back ride back to his loved ones. So maybe the fact that SB re-exists comes down to Rumple having dropped hints to WW that led her to make it so? I could see Rumple being crafty and manipulative like that. I’d also think that if it were the case, he’d have been working on a plan to eliminate WW when he she would be of no further use to him, and would instead become a threat to himself and everyone else.
