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ParticipantI don’t expect him to hang around and be an actual part of the story, (because God forbid they develop an ongoing friendship for Emma or Henry), but I hope that when they shuffle him off back to Marco that he stays an adult. He’s with the good guys now, and they have no reason to make him revert if he doesn’t want to, and I’d think that he wouldn’t want to.
[adrotate group="5"]March 23, 2015 at 7:58 am in reply to: FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from … 4 X 15 POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS . . #299546Phee
ParticipantI think it didn’t make sense because August was lying about it, trying to distract the QoD
I’d considered that. But we never got an alternate story as to how he really got all that stuff, so I figure we’re just supposed to assume it was meant to be the truth. And if he was lying about where he got it from, why make a specific reference to a character the audience will make a connection to, if he could have just said any random old thing?
March 23, 2015 at 6:44 am in reply to: FAVORITE AND LEAST FAVORITE MOMENTS from … 4 X 15 POOR UNFORTUNATE SOULS . . #299537Phee
ParticipantIf I never hear the word “author” again in life after this season of OUAT is done, it’ll be too bloody soon. WE GET IT THE AUTHOR IS A THING YOU DON’T HAVE TO MENTION THEM EVERY FIVE FREAKING SECONDS.
Ahem…
–The Emma and August scene. FINALLY. I forgot that before I disliked him, I really like August. I hope they get to have A CONVERSATION.
It was SO GREAT to have him back! And to see him interacting with Emma and Henry! That little moment where Emma used magic and August was all, “Well lookit you now,” was great, given their history. I really wish they’d keep him around as a friend for them both, but I know they won’t. *sigh*
–The JR returning. I hate that Hook has his ship back because once again, he sacrifices nothing and gets everything.
If they want me to buy that he’s had a redemption arc, (which I guess they do because Emma’s constantly saying, “you’re not that person any more”), could they please show him having to make some sacrifice and struggle, like they have with the likes of Regina? Maybe they think they HAVE been showing that, but all I’ve seen is Hook just hanging out with the heroes and having what he wants fall into his lap because apparently he’s a good guy now?
Colin has the acting chops to pull off a deep and meaningful, angst filled redemption arc, but most of what they give him these days is fluff. The potential of both the actor and the character are totally going to waste IMO.
I appreciated seeing Ariel slap him for having lied to her, but I hate that Emma’s never gonna find out what he did.
While Ariel’s use as a plot device was incredibly disappointing, the fact that the only time we saw her it was about her saving Hook from drowning, it made my Hookriel shipper heart momentarily flutter. Then I just got sad because of wasted potential. *sigh*
–A lot of character retconning, IMO. Or maybe I should say a lot of characters saying stuff that didn’t fit with where they were in their past arcs. Like Hook saying that he would have kept anything of Milah’s thus his understanding of Ursula and her voice. Um. Baelfire, anyone? The kid that you sent away when you knew he was Milah’s child?
Unless Ursula ages as some rate that’s totally removed from normal space and time, these flashbacks had to have come AFTER Hook had betrayed Bae to Pan, right? So for Hook to say, “If I had something left of my love -“, after he’d sold out his lover’s son, is pretty rich.
Perhaps it could be argued that regret over what he did to Bae is why he was attempting to not screw over another kid as well, but if that’s what they wanted me to think then they should have given him a slightly different line, something like, “I know what it is to have something left of someone you love, and then lose it.” So just judging on what they actually gave us in the ep, it annoyed me greatly that he said that, because it felt like another case of them ignoring that Nealfire existed and had relationships that mattered.
Anyway, I did appreciate the consistency of having Hook eventually do the bad thing and screw over a kid because VENGEANCE.
– This is more in regards to the media than the episode itself, but I feel they overhyped what Hook did to Ursula. I was expecting a death involved, or something.
In the interviews they were all, “What’s worse than having your heart broken? Having your SOUL CRUSHED.” While what he did is totally horrible, I dunno that I’d classify it as, “soul crushing”.
-Mention of the dragon in Hong Kong
On the one hand, I liked that they mentioned the Dragon and Hong Kong. On the other hand, what August said didn’t exactly fit with what we saw of their interactions, so it just smacks of something they made up way after the fact and are trying to cram it into the history they’ve already established whether it makes sense or not.
Also, am I missing something or is it perplexing how August managed to connect the dots and figure out all of a sudden that the Author is trapped in the book? Like, yay for story progression, but I didn’t really get how his revelation came to him?
There seemed to be some OOMF in Bobby’s performance for the first time in a while when he was holding August to the fire. I still don’t like how they’re making Rumple all BIG BAD again though.
The line where he said it wouldn’t be the first time August had lied to him was delivered with just the right amount of tension. It’s…perplexing, and kind of infuriating me, because they seem to put multiple things in to suggest that the existence of Nealfire hasn’t been forgotten, but they’re VAGUE things, and it may just be because I’m watching it with a biased eye as someone who adores Neal, and so those references to the character aren’t things that most viewers would even pick up on. But God forbid they blatantly reference him, blatantly show someone remembering him and having the memory of him actually matter and have the loss of him affect someone.
/rantTo end this post on a positive, I liked the atmosphere they created with the scene of Ursula singing and all the sailors’ reactions. They actually made me believe that it was a dark night and a haunting voice was leading men to their doom, which is an iconic sort of scenario when it comes to mermaids and pirates, and they really sold it well.
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ParticipantI’m yet to watch Poor Unfortunate Soul, but one of my stops to get commentary on an ep before I watch it, (so I know what brand of disappointment to brace myself for) is the anti-Hook tag on tumblr, and there I saw a screencap of Ariel popping out of the water with an almost drowned Hook, and suddenly I want to burst out singing and sobbing, “We coulda had it aaaaaaallllllllllllll.” Maaaaannnnn, why did they not do Hookriel?! *flips tables*
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ParticipantThis most recent aggressive and nasty behavior towards William Shatner is just another good reason why I’m so glad MRJ is done with this crappy show.
Oh but just imagine Shatner’s tweets if by some bizarre miracle Neal showed up again. THE TWEETS WOULD BE GLORIOUS, and Shatner would have MRJ’s back in the inevitable fandom war, and he’d be putting people in their place all over the place.
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ParticipantFavorite thing to come from recent episode:
I haven’t watched it yet, but my fave thing to come from it is Shatner calling it like it is and not buying into Woobie!Hook…
“@eluna1978: but Hook really tried to give her back her voice! #OnceUponATime” Only because the shell didn't have leverage any longer.
— William Shatner (@WilliamShatner) March 23, 2015
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ParticipantShe even blocked Phee for retweeting a Shatner tweet.
Wasn’t a RT, I merely expressed appreciation for his tweets about Hook, declaring that they’re one of the few things I still find entertaining about this show. 😛
(Speaking of our Captain, it’s his birthday, so everyone make sure to tweet him some happy wishes, considering how happy he makes us.)
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ParticipantOh, hey guys, look what I found another one of…prepare to have your heart ripped out in 5…4…3…2…
Enter the Dragon Rewrite: Granny’s Scene
Belle:*sitting in Granny’s with Will Scarlet with a chocolate cake* You have to try some of this cake it’s delicious.
Will:*stares at cake sadly*
Neal:*enters Granny’s, approaches Belle’s side of the booth* Belle, we need to talk- *notices Will’s presence* It looks like I’m interrupting something.
Belle:Uh. Neal, this is Will. Have the two of you met?
*at the same time*
Will:Yes.
Neal:No.
Will:Don’t you remember? I broke up your date with that blonde sheriff. The woman.
Neal:*grins* How could I forget? Emma was pissed. But I’m pretty sure you ran away before the formal introductions.
Will:So you’ve come to repay the favor then?
Neal:Unfortunately yes. Belle, I hate to intrude on your- But this is really important. Can we talk in private?
Belle:*follows Neal into an alcove* What’s going on? Has Emma found out what these three witches want Regina to steal?
Neal:No. Emma’s been staking ’em out, but so far she’s got nothing. But what if they want what the other witches have wanted when they went looking for power?
Belle:The dagger. What better way to find the Author than to get the Dark One to do it for you? But Neal, it’s useless if he’s outside the town line.
Neal:Unless they’re still in contact with him and they find a way to lure him back. You know him, Belle. He’d deal with anyone to get him what he wants and everything he cares about is in Storybrooke.
Belle:Anyone of them could control him. Or even worse, use the dagger to kill him and become the Dark One herself. Neal, we cannot let that happen.
Neal:No. And if Regina decides to play their games she could lead them straight to you.
Belle:What can we do?
Neal:There’s only one thing we can do, put it somewhere they’d never think to look.
Belle:But where?
Neal:We’ll think of something.Phee
ParticipantKeep scrolling RG. He snarked on Hook, and there was also this…
“@flacksandmurs: Which character would you bring back from the dead on OUAT?” Neal because Henry deserves to get to know his Dad
— William Shatner (@WilliamShatner) March 22, 2015
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ParticipantOh Captain, my Captain!
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