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@slurpeez108 wrote:
It could be a picture of Rumpelstiltskin, who is traditionally depicted as a stange little imp.
That’s what I was thinking too.
[adrotate group="5"]@CrownedWithLaurels wrote:
Why should we even expect anything? Any set pics? Any instant interviews?
Before the internet, people were content to watch. And follow then actual storyline. K&H started writing this ten years ago. It amazed me that people were complaining about Hook not being in S,B, And T because they knew about his leg injury and obviously it wasn’t better by then. They said at Paleyfest they had to rearrange some Hook stuff. IMO he would have been on again immediately but he broke his leg.
Do people understand they film these EPs months in advance? He’s not in it because this is around the time his leg was still injured and healing.To me, Paleyfest was HUGE for the season and enough. Sure it was released early on, but so what? They gave so much info about every ep left in the season. So, if fans are waiting for info about the rest of the season, to get excited, consider Paleyfest that gift. Of course I want more. But I don’t expect it or feel entitled. I’m already excited because I love this show
They don’t owe us anything. They are blessing us with this story they’ve created. If it weren’t for the internet, people wouldn’t even demand more info. The whole point to the show is to watch the show. I love spoilers just as much as everyone else on here, but to say lack of spoilers is damaging and threatening the show… that’s innaccurate.
This is K& H. Their spirit and heart reminds me of Walt Disney. He was a dreamer. And he shared his dreams with the world. Just because we can write our opinions constantly on the internet doesn’t give us right to demand anything. I think they know about their fandom, I think they know about ratings, and I KNOW they understand the sillyness of Nielson. This show is creating so much buzz. And the normal everyday person who watches, I.e. the majority, don’t get on boards. Don’t watch spoilers. Don’t watch interviews. They enjoy the story and are enjoying their story.
Saying fans are being disrespected etc is like going into Olive Garden, sitting down to a meal, and demanding they change their entire recipes/menus and replace it will your personal recipes and then calling it disrespect when they don’t. They have been in the restaurant business for years. You came to them to eat.If you expected to eat your own recipes, cook at home. Or write fan fic.
I for one love their story and have the utmost faith. They’ll be back. No worries! 🙂 IDK, Maybe I’m just too optimistic! Lol
*you= proverbial “you”, not specifically anyone. 🙂
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ALL OF THIS. Couldn’t have said it better.
I’ve never thought Regina and Leopold ever shared a bed. He wasn’t interested in her that way, and he wasn’t the type of man who would make his wife sleep with him out of duty, though they had no romantic interest in each other. He had no desire to have more children. He cherished Snow so much because she was a result of the love he shared with Eva. A child with Regina would not have fulfilled him in the same way, so I doubt he was at all interested in making babies with her.
As for the question of Regina potentially being infertile, I could see Cora doing that, so that her daughter was never distracted by developing love for anyone.
@Jbwood5 wrote:
I feel as if most people read way to much into he casual flirting that is hooks personality. He is like that with everybody not just Emma. Plus Emma trust no one and I don’t think she is going to start with that man who tried to kill her sons grandfather and helped bring Cora and all her evil to town. Just not going to happen.
I think he sees something in Emma he hasn’t seen in all the other women he compulsively flirts with. I believe he’s genuinely drawn to her on some level, like he hasn’t been drawn to anyone since Milah. And I think that the fact they’ve shown Emma not trusting Hook up the beanstalk when she actually could have was a vital part in her struggle to learn to trust people. Emma still doesn’t have a huge amount of love for Rumple, she’s really only conceding to be on his team because of the familial connection she’s been forced to accept. Basically, I don’t think the situations surrounding Hook and Emma and everyone in between are black and white, it’s an emotionally complicated situation and I can see them drawn to each other in the midst of it. And I say all of this as someone who firmly believes that SwanFire is endgame.
@AngieBelle wrote:
(I had to wonder, though, why August didn’t become inanimate again after crossing the town line.)
His magic was sort of separate from magic contained in SB by the curse. It affected him when he was clear on the other side of the world. Also, objects containing magic retain it when crossing the town line, (like the shawl, and Hook’s ship) and at that point, August was more object than human.
@Red192 wrote:
I think that the Blue Fairy is next on Tamara’s list as she saw her do magic.
Can Nealfire please see it or at least get a clue if Tamara goes after Blue? Because considering how willing she was to help him back in the day, I’m assuming he has a soft spot for her and would maybe even think he owes her one. That would be a nice way to turn him against Tamara.
@KFChimera wrote:
How is Neal going to react when he finds out about Tamara? Relieved that he can now be honest about still loving Emma, or is he going to feel like Emma in Manhattan when she was yelling about being played, hurt and heartbroken?
Much as I hate what Tamara’s doing to him, I do like that it’s setting up that little parallel. The situations aren’t exactly the same, but he’ll be able to see where she was coming from when she felt like she’d been played like a pawn in their game, and it will give SwanFire a whole other level of understanding for each other.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
I really do not think Emma and Hook are ever going to trust each other enough to have any sort of relationship.
I think they have too much chemistry not to at least try. I think Emma can help Hook move past Milah and his revenge and that Hook can help Emma learn to forgive and trust again.
Agreed, I think CaptainSwan have an interesting (and hot) dynamic, and a relationship between them would be a necessary stepping stone to deeper, more lasting relationships that both will have with others in the future.
@NONNIE wrote:
PART OF THE PROBLEM is they lost EION BAILEY to another show…
If you are referring to Trooper, the show he was cast as a lead for on TNT, that show did not end up getting made after all. http://www.deadline.com/2013/01/tnts-pilot-trooper-not-going-forward/
@BeastWhisperer wrote:
I’ve been thinking more about the Oz possibilities. It’s seeming to me that Tamara’s mother might fit better with Dorothy than her Grandmother. IF Rumple sent Jefferson a few years before the curse was activated that could put Dorothy’s visit around the late seventies. Seventies, Oz, New York… that sounds like The Wiz. Diana Ross’s Dorothy was a 24 year old kindgarten teacher from Harlem, and it was made in 1978. K&H could use that much as a homage in whatever take they might have on the story. After gettting home (and taking with her the transportation that Rumple was looking for), Dorothy would have had Tamara. She could have a father from here or perhaps her father was from Oz. Oz would get him out of the picture, so that’s what I’m leaning towards. Something then happens to Dorothy that leads to Tamara having to be raised by her Grandmother. Maybe she got sucked back to Oz in another storm or chose to leave because she was looking for something (Tamara’s father?). Maybe the wizard did something to her after he returned. Maybe she was branded “crazy” for her story and locked up, leading Tamara to try to stamp out magic for ruining her mother’s life. There’s tons of possibilities. The key would be that magic would somehow have taken her parents from her. That’s why Tamara’s treasured picture is of her with Grandma.
It fits with Tamara being human and from here. It ties in to the science vs magic theme. (The wizard did use science to fake magic afterall.) Hints for Oz would include Jefferson’s trip to Oz leading to the revelation that the ruby slippers were already used. Greg having a town dropped on him as a child. Right or wrong, it’s a fun idea to toy with for me.
I like this line of thinking, (had totally forgotten about The Wiz, and that’s interesting that there’s a NYC connection). Another Oz hint could have been that Owen likely ended up being raised by his aunt and uncle, (Kurt told him to run to his uncle’s place), just like Dorothy traditionally was, so I’m not giving up on there being an Oz connection of some description through Greg. I like the idea of Tamara’s father being from Oz, so she’s “quite human” but not completely.
It would certainly fit the themes they’ve been playing with. But how does a photo of Tamara and her grandmother, clearly taken in our world, work into the theories of her being related to the Fairy Godmother?
FWIW, regarding the Greek god Pan, (where Peter Pan gets part of his name from), there wasn’t strictly just one…
Pan might be multiplied as the Panes (Burkert 1985, III.3.2; Ruck and Staples 1994 p 132[12]) or the Paniskoi. Kerenyi (p. 174) notes from scholia that Aeschylus in Rhesus distinguished between two Pans, one the son of Zeus and twin of Arcas, and one a son of Cronus. “In the retinue of Dionysos, or in depictions of wild landscapes, there appeared not only a great Pan, but also little Pans, Paniskoi, who played the same part as the Satyrs”.
All of the Pans
Pan could be multiplied into a swarm of Pans, and even be given individual names, as in Nonnus’ Dionysiaca, where the god Pan had twelve sons that helped Dionysus in his war against the Indians. Their names were Kelaineus, Argennon, Aigikoros, Eugeneios, Omester, Daphoineus, Phobos, Philamnos, Xanthos, Glaukos, Argos, and Phorbas.
Two other Pans were Agreus and Nomios. Both were the sons of Hermes, Agreus’ mother being the nymph Sose, a prophetess: he inherited his mother’s gift of prophecy, and was also a skilled hunter. Nomios’ mother was Penelope (not the same as the wife of Odysseus). He was an excellent shepherd, seducer of nymphs, and musician upon the shepherd’s pipes. Most of the mythological stories about Pan are actually about Nomios, not the god Pan. Although, Agreus and Nomios could have been two different aspects of the prime Pan, reflecting his dual nature as both a wise prophet and a lustful beast.
Aegipan, literally “goat-Pan,” was a Pan who was fully goatlike, rather than half-goat and half-man. When the Olympians fled from the monstrous giant Typhoeus and hid themselves in animal form, Aegipan assumed the form of a fish-tailed goat. Later he came to the aid of Zeus in his battle with Typhoeus, by stealing back Zeus’ stolen sinews. As a reward the king of the gods placed him amongst the stars as the Constellation Capricorn. The mother of Aegipan, Aix (the goat), was perhaps associated with the constellation Capra.
Sybarios was an Italian Pan who was worshipped in the Greek colony of Sybaris in Italy. The Sybarite Pan was conceived when a Sybarite shepherd boy named Krathis copulated with a pretty she-goat amongst his herdshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pane_(mythology)
