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ParticipantThe building does look very similar. Don’t think the other buildings were still there in the scene with Regina and Snow, were they? But it’s safe to say that after Cora left to marry Henry, the mill would have closed down and potentially have been torn down too. There’s about a 30 year gap for the surroundings of the cottage to have changed.
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Participant@ItachiIshtar wrote:
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They’re not plotholes or inconsistencies when it’s showing us the past and then filling in the gaps along the way. We only met the character last week! They already showed that Snow was being a brat and learned her lesson and (until very recently) has always strived to do the right thing in honor of Eva and the things she taught her. So what’s to say that Eva didn’t used to be young and stupid and something showed her the error of her ways? I’m sure we’ll see what made Eva smarten up, maybe even this week. She was young here, people get wiser with age (at least I hope so) and realize that they can’t do the stupid stuff they did as kids, it’s not right. We’ve only seen what Eva became, not where she started out. Give her a chance.
Occasionally other characters may seem a little “out of character” but anything that is from a flashback just means that we haven’t actually gotten to see where they got that power, or why they switched so drastically from good to evil. Give it time and more gaps will be filled in. If they weren’t going to go into what made these people who they are there wouldn’t be that much of a plot to begin with and we wouldn’t have a show to enjoy.
I get the impression that both this episode and the last are showing that not only is “evil isn’t born, it’s made”, but neither is good. People aren’t born pure good or pure evil. It is their actions and life experiences that determine who they become.
I started typing a reply before reading the whole thread, and then I saw that you’d got in first with mentioning how GOOD can be “made, not born,” just like evil is. It’s not lazy writing to show that youngEva was a brat. Lazy writing would have been if she’d been a goodytwoshoes her whole life. Showing that she didn’t start out that way, shows that they’ve put a lot of thought into the events that would cause her to learn and evolve…events that are linked to how Cora DEvolved…events that are still having an effect all these years later in SB. They’re writing a layered, intertwined, expansive story. Not sure how that can be labeled as “lazy writing”.
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You know the person I feel most sorry for is Henry Sr. He was such a handsome and kind prince but he was used all his life by his father, wife, and daughter. And ultimately his own daughter killed him. Also I think why Regina wasn’t all spoiled and selfish when she was younger was maybe because of Henry Sr.’s influence or what little influence he had over Cora. He still retained his kindness even when he was older. I can only imagine what marriage with Cora is like, it reduced him from a tall proud man to a small timid one.
Such tragedy. The man deserved better.
WORD! Poor Henry really got the short end of the stick. 🙁
One final comment (for now) on this first act…thank God it looks like Regina is finally getting a clue! There were definitely cogs starting to turn in her head in that scene.
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Participant@RaulYbarra wrote:
Henry: “Hey, I’m going over to Grandpa’s to hunt ogres.”
Emma: “Wear your warm coat. And be back in time for dinner. We’re eating at Granny’s tonight.”Brilliant! 😆
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ParticipantI’m glad we’ll see more of her in flashbacks. She needs to die in present day, but she’s a badass addition to the show, so I’m glad we’ll get to see more of her.
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ParticipantCaptainSwan would be the icing on that angsty cake. 😆
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ParticipantBugger, that does seem to be rather conclusive. 😛 Unless the way they’re shooting it is to have someone lifting it out of her hands, to make it appear to be floating away. She’s got a weird expression and her hands aren’t really gripping it properly.
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Participant@Jbwood5 wrote:
He clearly does not like the man since he wasn’t worried about leaving him in New York, a place he knows nothing about in a world he doesn’t understand with no way to get back.
Or, to flip Nealfire’s reaction completely the other way…perhaps he respects Hook’s skills so much that he knows he’s more than capable of looking after himself, even in this strange new world? So he doesn’t have to incriminate himself more by wanting to bring Hook along, but he also doesn’t have to worry that he won’t be OK. Maybe he’ll even slip away to the room where he’s locked up and unlock it and tell him to get back to the boat STAT and hide, so he can hitch a ride back. Actually, I’d love to see that if only to see Hook indignantly state, “I will NOT hitch a ride on MY ship!” 😛
I want NealfirePan and Hook to be buddies so bad! I mean, the guy knows how to drive Hook’s boat. And not just any boat, but the fastest ship in all the realms. How did he learn that if Hook didn’t teach him? Which means they must have been close at some point, because Hook isn’t gonna let any old random drive his boat. And even better if their relationship has been strained, like RumplesGirl suggested, but NealfirePan can’t give up on salvaging the friendship, but he can’t be overt about wanting to save it because Hook is the sworn enemy of his father, who he’s trying to reconcile with. So much potential for delicious angst!
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ParticipantI dunno, she seems to be in a very concentrated, tense sort of a pose, and with both hands out like that, I am suspicious.
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Participant@obisgirl wrote:
I’m betting Eva finds out about Cora’s deception and using dark magic and that’s why Cora and Henry Sr. lose everything.
Love this idea. Young Eva seems like she may have been the type to take great pleasure in exposing Cora’s deeds, and perhaps that led to Cora and Henry being completely excommunicated. That right there would be plenty of motivation for Cora to kill Eva and set up Regina to become royalty.
March 8, 2013 at 1:02 pm in reply to: Ksitetv.com’s Six Things About “The Miller’s Daughter” #178181 -
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