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Why would Drizella do the curse and then be her mother’s assistant?
Because all her life Drizella has had to do what Tremaine told her to. But now in the position of Victoria’s assistant, Drizella is actually getting to make decisions and tell her mother what to do for a change. Even if her mother isn’t aware that that’s what’s happening, it’s something that Drizella would revel in being able to do.
Drizella is the one who went to pick up Lucy, it wasn’t Victoria. Drizella was the one making the arrangements to turn the dance recital into a crazy expensive charity event, it wasn’t Victoria. Clearly Drizella has been given a high amount of responsibility, Victoria listens to her advice and trusts her to make business decisions and put things in motion. These are things that Tremaine NEVER would have let Drizella do in their former lives. Drizella has positioned herself perfectly to be able to quietly orchestrate things without Victoria even realising. That would be SUCH a power trip for Drizella, knowing that she’s pulling her mother’s strings, after so many years of being ordered around by her.
Maybe she’s even planning on taking the company over some day. She’ll be able to play the card that it wouldn’t have been the success it was if not for her involvement. And being so involved in all the decisions that have been made with the business (and with Lucy) means that she’d have all sorts of potential blackmail information stored up with all the dodgy dealings that have gone on. She could very well destroy her mother at some point, take everything away from her, leave her destitute, unable to even get a job, so Drizella offers her the job of cleaning the Belfry offices, thus turning Victoria into a Cinderella trope. It would be such delicious revenge on the woman who had controlled her her whole life.
[adrotate group="5"]I wonder who Drizella would have sacrificed, though?
Probably Anastasia? Morbidly poetic to kill your sister in order to get revenge on your mother.
If you’re right, I’ll love the direction of the story. Great Theory!
I was so ready to be 100% “meh” about the show again this season, but instead have ended up actively speculating about stuff for the first time in several seasons. Go figure! LOL As soon as it was Drizella who came and took the book off Lucy and told Rogers to destroy it, I was convinced that she’s actually the one who cast the Curse.
Like, sure Tremaine is a…very not nice lady…but I dunno that I see her wanting to give up the life she has in EF2.0. Sure she wants Henry and/or Cinderella dead, but she really just wants to be rid of them, so I feel like she wouldn’t be at all inspired to go to the trouble of orchestrating this Curse to resolve the situation.
Drizella though, I can believe that she’d have the motivation, both to tear Cinderella’s happy life apart, and to exert some power over her mother, really turn the tables on her. This Curse makes sense as Drizella’s revenge over both the people she hates the most.
Also, I never watched Reign, but Adelaide Kane was the lead in that as Mary Queen of Scots, and from what I know of Mary Queen of Scots, I’m guessing it was a pretty meaty role. So would OUAT really snag an actress like that to just play a subservient daughter, when she’s probably got the acting chops to be able to play a conniving big bad?
Who would’ve paid $500 dollars to sit through that? If that’s the best Lady Tremaine can do, she really is the weakest villain yet.
Tremaine’s not the one who set the price, she said her assistant did. Just another clue that Drizella is the one who cast the Curse IMO. Tremain is totally cursed in HH, and Drizella is having too much fun pulling her mother’s strings, as some payback for how she’d controlled her all her life. Drizella set the price $50 above what Jacinda could have afforded because she hates Cinderella, and cast the curse to break up her happy little family, so setting that price would mean forcing the family apart for that particular event where Jacinda really wanted to see her kid.
Or who knows. Maybe we can find Ariel2 and @phee and I can finally get our Hookriel
OMG DON’T TEASE!!!! Hook2 became a single father because his daughter’s mother had to go back to live in the ocean. The witch who locked up his daughter is actually Ursula.
Yeah gotta love Weaver/Rumple. I think he most certainly has his memories and is being the Rumple we all know and love. He is playing the middle against the ends. I think ultimately, he is there to help his grandson and maybe break the curse (?). This is his only motivation and anyone who helps him with that he is aligned with and anyone who does not he is against. Right now he thinks Rogers (who I believe is cursed) can help him so he is using him, if at some point in time he wants Lady Tremaine to believe he is working with her he will do what he needs to do to make it appear so. It is a very season 1 feel with Rumple which I absolutely love!
THIS. I don’t really wanna get my #hopes up about it too much, because do we dare to dream that Rumple actually acts like Henry is his grandson?! But it’d be really nice if it ends up being the case. I mean, evidently he’s been checking in on Henry in EF2 enough that he thought it necessary to send Alice to intervene, so that must mean he cares at least a little bit. Given his history of having searched for and ultimately failed at protecting Bae, he’d have believable motivation for being more vigilant with Bae’s son so that history doesn’t end up repeating itself. The problem is is that up until now they haven’t shown Rumple as being overly invested in the fact that Henry is Bae’s son, so as much sense as it would make, they’d need the character to make a bit of a leap in order to be suddenly invested now. But I guess people acting out of character would be nothing new for this show, so.
We don’t even know why or how Rumple got swept up into this new curse
I’m not convinced that he did get swept up in the Curse. If he was keeping tabs on Henry in EF2 back when he first met Cinderella, then odds are pretty good that he also knew about the Curse happening, even if he wasn’t there for it himself. So he saw it happen from where he was in our world, and then he figured out where in our world the Curse sent them all. Then packed his stuff and moved into HH under the guise of someone with authority in the police dept, so he can have the access he needs to all the people in town in order to help get his grandson’s family straightened out.
I reserve judgement on whether it’s something I would actually want to see, because really it depends on what this Hook2 ends up being like, and the visual of seeing Regina and Hook being a thing just feels wrong at the moment because I’m so conditioned to seeing him being with Henry’s other mother. But if trying to reason out potential logic for it happening…I could totally see them going there.
Wasn’t there some interview or convention or something during hiatus where Lana and/or Colin were talking about how Hook and Regina totally had a thing going on back around the time she hired him to kill Cora? I don’t remember specifics of what was said or when, I just remember thinking, “Oh damn, the shippers aren’t gonna like them talking about that.” LOL But maybe they were bringing it up back then because they’d been informed that it was gonna come up again this season?
If Hook1 and Hook2’s stories were the same up until the Curse did/didn’t happen, then if they make it canon that they hooked up that one time in the past, both our Regina and Hook2 have a memory of that. So there’s a canon basis for them to build something more onto.
And now they’re gonna be traipsing around EF2 together, and Regina’s gonna get to know the story about Hook2’s long lost daughter, and as a single parent herself, who is there looking after her child, that’s the perfect situation for Regina to start empathising with Hook2. The woman already has a history of “this Wish Realm version of a person isn’t the same as the version from my world”, so the concept of Hook2 NOT being Hook1 is probably easier for Regina to wrap her brain around than it is for most viewers, so she likely wouldn’t be resistant to it if she did develop an attraction towards him.
Like I said, I dunno if I like it or not. But I do think they’ve set it up pretty well for it to happen.
Alice is Rumple’s kid. Rapunzel will be Hook’s kid. And because it’s so Shakespearean with the history of animosity between the girls’ fathers, they’ll end up being the LGBT couple.
Compared to those ideas the WishRealm Hook idea really is the better option. I know it’s not ideal, but the time-traveling thing and the clone thing and impostor thing would have been a million times worse. So basically we ended up with the best of a bad choice. So that’s something.
True, they really had no options that would actually make sense. As annoyed as I am by the ridiculousness of how we got to this place, I am frankly glad to have a NewHook.
Back in S2, when he first showed up, I liked the character. He seemed complex, and dark, and flawed, with an emotionally charged history with Rumple and Bae, and I was looking forward to what they were gonna do with him. Then they ended up ignoring his darker elements so they could simplify him into a woobie puppy who followed the female lead around. They barely even gave him anything to do in Neverland. Captain Hook was given barely any story when they spent half a freaking season in Neverland!!! As with SO MANY characters and stories and elements in this show, they squandered a great opportunity to do something really interesting.
So now we have NewHook, who said that his story was the same as the Hook we knew, up until the point where in his realm Regina’s Curse didn’t happen. They’ve basically hit the re-set button on Hook. All that history with Rumple, all his time in Neverland, apparently still happened, but we’re getting a do-over from the time of the Curse. And as someone who was underwhelmed by their first attempt at the character, I’m actually curious to see if they have something more interesting planned this time around.
The only way I could see it being worthwhile to do such a blatant rehash of a S1 story is if it ends up sparking some sort of memory in Regina and Henry if they get a feeling of deja vu.
–No one ever needs reminding that the WishRealm was a thing.
As entertaining as I found WishRealmHook in all his glory, (you can tell how much fun Colin has with that character), sweet baby Jesus why did we really need to bring up the nonsensical WishRealm again?! It makes my head hurt and it needs to not have ever been a thing.
Weaver/Rumple: I am totally getting a season 1 feel from him, which is why I loved him in the first place. I am pretty sure his awake and knows exactly what he is doing. Robert Carlyle is just an outstanding actor and fun to watch.
I am here for Weaver/Rumple and the ambiguity of whether he’s good or bad or in between. And Bobby Carlyle is fantastic…but the new voice he’s doing for Weaver is taking some getting used to. I get why Bobby made the choice to do a different voice for him, it makes sense, it’s just kinda throwing me off at the moment…which I guess is maybe part of what he’s trying to do by altering his voice, and making us question who this Weaver guy is…so maybe I’m reacting in just the right way that Bobby was hoping for…it’s just kinda weird for me right now and it takes me out of the scene sometimes.
– Andrew J. West is doing a phenomenal job as Henry in my opinion. He has Henry’s mannerisms down pat and he’s even more likable.
By the end of S6 I’d come to be not that interested in or connected to Henry at all. But now I find myself genuinely caring about the character and wanting to cheer him on. So well played Andrew J West, you won me over.
And I totally forgot, what’s up with all the magic beans?
Everyone has beans now and can make portals whenever. Except for Henry, who has to wait until a certain time for a portal to somehow open on its own so he can pop through.
