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2) JK Rowling (my queen in all things) has from Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them the following passage:

Lily totally referenced Harry Potter.

Unicorns being drawn to young maidens in a standard thing in mythology.

Lily had her hair in a ponytail.

The unicorn had a collar with silvery bits studded on it, kind of similar to Lily’s cuff.

I’m just sayin’. 😛

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Sthap. ( http://www.amazon.com/Lily-Unicorn-Dallas-Clayton/dp/0062116681)

There’s a little STAR on the cover of that book. #theoryconfirmed 😛

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Yeah Marian mentioned out loud how Regina was “a monster”, but she never said “she tried to kill me.”

But Emma was THERE, and rescued her, so if they want me to buy that word didn’t get around the whole town about what happened with Regina and Marian in the past…yeah, I don’t buy that.

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The more I think about it, the more it wouldn’t surprise me. The star is a mark left from her horn. The human who turns into a magical creature had their magical creature “child” turn into a human (#poetry). Regina made the Curse separate Maleficent from the only “person” she loved who brought her peace and happiness, which was the unicorn. IT ALL MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.

(Though it’d be the most extreme case of whitewashing ever, because that unicorn was born black as ebony.)

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Timeline wise, this would also explain why Lily and Emma are close in age.

This is a sticking point for me with the whole Maleficent being Lily’s mother thing.

It seems like a no-brainer that King Stefan would be Lily’s father, and that whole situation is what triggered Maleficent’s vendetta against Aurora and her mother. But in that case, Lily would have to be at least as old as Aurora, so Lily would have had to be trapped in time somewhere for her to only be Emma’s age now.

If Lily was instead born around the same time Emma was, then you’ve gotta consider Maleficent’s demeanour back in S1 around the time the Curse was cast. Maybe she was so blissed out because she’d just had a baby and was hopped up on hormones, but then why did she attribute her happiness to her pet unicorn? And she certainly doesn’t act like someone who has recently lost a child. Younger Maleficent who is all ragey, sure, I can buy that some of that could come from the grief of losing a child, but not S1 Maleficent.

Maybe Lily is the unicorn, thrust out into the world when the Curse was cast, away from her “mother”. (I think I’m only half joking, God help me.)

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And there is one aspect of this that no one has pointed out, so I’ll do it : this is another disturbing treatment of a POC of their show. Like Lancelot, Marian (a POC) is actually secretly a (evil) white woman.

And they’re doing it at the same time that they’ve aged a teenaged Latina into an adult white woman. And people wonder why this show has a bad rep when it comes to representation. *FACEPALM*

Oh Regina never really killed Marian in either timeline (watch this happen),

But it doesn’t really matter what the actual truth is, because regardless, Robin (and everyone) believed that had Emma not shown up, Regina killed Marian in the original timeline. Doesn’t matter if it’s what really happened or not, doesn’t matter if that wasn’t even really Marian that Regina was going to kill. What matters is what Robin believed to be the truth. And if someone attempted to kill me, then my significant other started a relationship with them, I’d be pretty freaking horrified. So for me, this twist wouldn’t make me judge Robin any less for what he’s done.

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I know their reasoning. Wonderland didn’t get high ratings so why bother following the canon set up there.

Their reasoning is totally flawed though. They brought Will over to the main show because he was the most popular character on WL. And now they’re seemingly trashing his story from WL, which is what made people love him in the first place. What is logic?!

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I also recall the original article saying that August would be back for multiple episodes, not just 414.

That’s what’s had me thinking that they’ll be re-ageing him, because I don’t see how they could work him into multiple episodes unless he’s an adult in present day. I’d have no problem with him being re-aged (I’ve missed August), if not for, as you said, WHY DIDN’T THEY DO IT BEFORE if it’s a thing that’s possible? So even if we win with this story development, we still lose. *HEADDESK*

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Found a tumblr post that articulates why this whole Zelena = Marian thing feels ridiculous to me…

This stupid Zelena = Marian plot is relying on a lot of hope on her part.
If Zelena was impersonating Marian in the past, she would have to know exactly what time period she was in in 5 seconds flat, know exactly the person she needed to look like, hope that Regina would capture her, hope that Emma would be arrested, hope that Emma would be thrown into the cell next to her, hope that Emma would be able to get out of the cell, hope that Emma would also take ‘Marian’ with her, hope Emma wouldn’t listen to ‘Marian’ when she said she wanted to go back to her family, hope that Emma would get the time travel portal working and hope that Emma would take ‘Marian’ with her.

Zelena would then get frozen by the Snow Queen and her heart was ripped out, which was completely red and glowing with no dark spots, and when she was cured she told Regina that she should be with Robin.

Then there’s the whole magical disguise in the Land Without Magic. We just had an episode where the whole plan to get rid of the Chernabog was that since it’s magical then it would not be able to survive in the LWM. Rumple didn’t have magic in the LWM. But apparently Zelena knew she could keep a magical disguise in the LWM for over 6 weeks even though she’s never been there before.

There’s also the major question of WHY DIDN’T SHE JUST KILL ROBIN??? That would mean that Regina would never get to be happy with him…and I just…

It wasn’t a foolproof plan, it relied on too much really random luck that Zelena couldn’t control, so why would she do it? Especially when it would have been so much easier for her to just go and kill Robin in the past and then problem solved, her sister’s happy ending is dead. I guess she thought that being the one to take a living Robin away from Regina would be more fun, but like I said, that whole plan just had too many risk factors for me to buy that it’s a thing she’d do.

I can probably fanwank that she was able to maintain the disguise in our world because she was born magical, so the rules that apply to someone like Rumple maybe don’t apply to her as well. If the Dragon can operate in our world, then I guess so can Zelena. That’s the least of my concerns with this story line.

I also agree with this other post from the same tumblr user…

I have a feeling that the writers were taken back by the negativity towards Outlaw Queen with the whole ‘Regina killed her for crying out loud!’, ‘Robin chose to stay with his wife but then had sex with Regina in a crypt!’ ‘This entire relationship is disgusting!’. So now they’re scrambling to try to cover it all up with this retcon which doesn’t make sense so they can say ‘See everyone Regina didn’t kill her after all!’ even though it doesn’t make Robin look any better since he thought she was his wife.

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What exactly are they hoping Pinocchio can tell them? He doesn’t have memories from being August, right? So the only thing he could tell them about the Book is if he knew something about it before the Curse hit, (like if SneakyFairy told him something about it).

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