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Participant@Jolly Roger wrote:
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If we assume that Tamara is someone from a magical land, which is reasonable to assume, considering there are pics of her in SB and they don’t like non-magical peeps in town, I’d also assume that Neal doesn’t know her true identity, because he wouldn’t want to be with anyone magical, because that’s what he’s been running from his whole life.
If so, that could clash with the Peter Pan and Tinkerbell theories for them both…unless she was able to cast a spell on him so he didn’t recognise her…and if she was sent by Blue to find him, surely she has some reserves of fairy dust hidden away, the way Regina had her magical trinkets…which could make a forgetting spell possible. Ooo, maybe that’s why she bumps into him and spills her drink on him, because she had to get fairy dust on him somehow?
Anyway, basically, what I’m getting at, is if she’s revealed to be someone magical, and Neal didn’t previously know, I’m guessing the engagement won’t last much longer.
I like this theory. But why would Blue send her to him? To look after Baelfire, because Blue does seem to care for him.
Yes, I believe that Blue sent August after Nealfire back in the day, but then August pissed off to Phuket, so Blue needed to send someone else to keep tabs on him instead.
@AntBee wrote:
I guess it’s wishful thinking, but I’m hoping he knows who she really is and that their “engagement” is just some kind of plan to fool everyone else.
If he knows the full truth of who she is, I doubt that she could be anyone magical…
Emma: Did you know who I was when we met?
Neal: If I had, I wouldn’t have gone near you.
Emma: C’mon
Neal: C’mon what? I was in hiding. I came here to get away from all that crap.Now that we know he’s been in at least one other world before ours, that statement means he wasn’t just running from FTL, he was running from wherever else he’d been as well. I seriously doubt that he’d willingly associate with anyone he knew to be from any magical land. And I keep coming back to the thought that she must be from a magical land if she’s gonna end up in SB, (standing around watching as Blue turns WoodenAugust back into a human boy, no less). Even if the SBers would welcome her into town as a non-magical outsider, (and it’s safe to say they wouldn’t), Nealfire considers magic to be an utterly destructive force, and he wouldn’t expose someone he loved to it.
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Participant@Jolly Roger wrote:
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I’ll be surprised if Cora lives beyond the season finale.
Is Cora a series regular? Because if she isn’t then she will most likely be killed. What I’m wondering though, is what will happen after she is killed. Obviously they’re not all going back to FTL, so is there going to be a new big bad villian that they have to fight. I wonder which way they will go with this.
She’s still listed as a guest star. I just reckon the only way to stop her lust for power will be to kill her, (and I want Regina to do it). Wrapping up the Cora storyline will give them some room to explore whatever they have in store for Greg.
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ParticipantAny discussion involving Tamara, especially specific details like that, should be in the spoiler section still! They still haven’t even been in a promo.
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Participant@RumplesGirl wrote:
I think the first question we have to ask is why did Regina suddenly want a child? I’m of the opinion that the idea was planted into her head by a certain Blue Fairy (Mother Superior) who has had her memories this whole time. She’s the head nun, so it would make sense for her to handle the adoption of Henry.
This! I think Mother Superior had something to do with planting the idea in Regina’s head, then Regina went to Mr Gold because Rumple was the go to guy if you wanted to acquire a baby, then Mr Gold went to Mother Superior, who would likely know of any adoptable babies in town, and she handed over Henry. I think Blue set the whole thing up because she discovered Emma was pregnant and wanted to keep the baby close by so she could watch over him, Fairy Godmother style.
As for August’s involvement, I’m not necessarily convinced of that part of it, because he’d already gone to Phuket before Henry was born, and I think he went there because it was the furthest point on Earth from SB and he wanted to be somewhere Blue couldn’t get to him to make him be her errand boy any more. So I can’t really see him coming back just to make a baby delivery, then going all the way back to Phuket again when he was done.
Then of course the question is, who went to retrieve baby Henry? I think Blue may have gone herself. If she wasn’t completely affected by the curse, she could leave town without losing her memories, and she’d only have to be gone for a couple of days, so could likely sneak out of town and sneak back in.
Fans of the August theory also suggest that Regina’s comment about him having seemed familiar is because he’s the one who delivered Henry. But I think he could have been in town without delivering Henry, he could have just been there because Blue summoned him, perhaps to tell him a story about Rumple’s son and give him a box with a typewriter in it, before sending him off on the mission to find Nealfire and Emma.
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Participant@Swanning-Off wrote:
Or are we just meant to forget about the genie entirely as the actor is unavailable?
Will Sidney Glass (Giancarlo Esposito) ever return?
Kitsis: We would love to have him in every episode. He’s a big part of Revolution. We want to have him back, but it’s about scheduling.
Horowitz: If we can make it work, that would be fantastic.
Kitsis: We are obviously huge Giancarlo fans and it’s always an honor to have him on the show. He’s a star on a big hit show right now!
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ParticipantI’ll be surprised if Cora lives beyond the season finale.
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ParticipantIf we assume that Tamara is someone from a magical land, which is reasonable to assume, considering there are pics of her in SB and they don’t like non-magical peeps in town, I’d also assume that Neal doesn’t know her true identity, because he wouldn’t want to be with anyone magical, because that’s what he’s been running from his whole life.
If so, that could clash with the Peter Pan and Tinkerbell theories for them both…unless she was able to cast a spell on him so he didn’t recognise her…and if she was sent by Blue to find him, surely she has some reserves of fairy dust hidden away, the way Regina had her magical trinkets…which could make a forgetting spell possible. Ooo, maybe that’s why she bumps into him and spills her drink on him, because she had to get fairy dust on him somehow?
Anyway, basically, what I’m getting at, is if she’s revealed to be someone magical, and Neal didn’t previously know, I’m guessing the engagement won’t last much longer.
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ParticipantInteresting! So in the timeline, they probably won’t be around at the beginning of SB then, because Regina didn’t adopt Henry until 18 years into the curse.
Judging by this statement by K&H in one of their “lightening rounds” of questions, we won’t see babyHenry in this ep:
Will we get to see how Regina came to adopt Henry (Jared Gilmore)?
Edward Kitsis: We will eventually. Not this season.http://www.tvguide.com/News/Once-Upon-Time-Spoilers-Kitsis-Horowitz-ABC-1060428.aspx
So we’ll see before and after the fact in this ep, but we won’t see how he actually arrives. They’re such teases!!!Phee
Participant@AntBee wrote:
Anyhow, I just don’t think she’s just a regular person like maybe Greg is because I think it would be too risky, not only for her but for the other residents, for Neal to bring a regular person to Storybrooke even if she was the most understanding girlfriend in the world. I don’t think she could handle seeing magic around her if she really were a non-magical person and that she’d leave quickly, but since she’s suppose to be around for next season, I think she has to be another magical character because they already have an outsider with Greg and unless Tamara is HER, I don’t think they’d do the same kind of story line at the same time.
Agreed, she’s gotta be from a magical world if they’re gonna let her into SB. Apart from the SBers not wanting outsiders there, I can’t see Neal taking some mere mortal he’s in love with and entangling her in all the magic “crap”. There will be much more to this storyline than just an innocent engagement.
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Participant@Faux Pax wrote:
Two things. I hope that if they do make Neal go to neverland, they go all in and make him Pan. Trust me, until i saw that promo, i was one of the biggest haters of that theory, but i think it could work. If they do, i don’t think they will ever say it because of copyright issues. I think they will just reveal that Neal was in Neverland for a long time and that he had a lot of history with Hook and let us fill in the blanks there.
If they have the rights to use Hook, they’d have the rights to use anything and everything from the Peter Pan story. If they don’t blatantly state or show anything about Neverland just yet, it would be because they’ve just dropped one major bombshell about Neal’s identity and they wanna let the dust settle a bit from that before dropping the next one. Having him say he met Hook in another land is enough to get fans speculating about the possibility, while the show still remains focused on the current situation. I think if they go to Neverland at all this season, it may be in the finale, so they can end the season with, “Oh BTW, here’s Bae in Neverland, and look, here comes Hook’s ship. Kbai, see yas next season.”
And just think, wouldn’t it be kind of ironic if Nealfire was one of the best fighters in the show, since all this came from a desire for his dad to keep him OUT of the fight?
That would be delightfully ironic! I can see them going in this direction, making him an accomplished fighter, because going by his comment to Emma in Manhattan, right before he goes out to speak to Henry, they’re going for a, “This screwed up cycle of screw ups ends here,” theme. Emma and Nealfire aren’t gonna let Henry grow up feeling abandoned like they both did. And Nealfire can end the line of “cowards” in his family too.
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