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ParticipantThis thread shouldn’t be in a general discussion section of the forum. People who avoid spoilers wouldn’t have looked at the script excerpts that were tweeted, and this thread has a great big spoiler in the title. 😕
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Participant@SpinningGold wrote:
So in greek mythology there are three spinsters, the three fates. One spins your thread, that is birth, the second one decides the length that is your life, and the third cuts it, that is your death. Together they control your future and what it holds. These have to be the spinsters… They are mentioned as the Spinners in Homer’s Odessey and Midas is from greek mythology too. Vampirefan12 actually raised the question in general discussion.
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=2826&p=39016#p39016It would be quite fitting, I mean, the guy picked up spinning as a hobby from somewhere.
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Participant@slurpeez108 wrote:
I think the “chilling reveal” could be that the BF disguised herself as the seer and then gave Rumplestiltskin a cryptic prophesy which ultimately led him to becoming the dark one, to lose his son, and to create the dark curse to bring everyone from the EF to SB.
LOVE this theory!
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Participant@Kranen wrote:
Except Keegan isn’t listed in the cast list.
Neither is Eion, even though reports say that August will make an appearance.
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ParticipantOne of the articles related to this spoiler says:
We’ve been assuming Cora, Hook and Regina were Storybrooke’s biggest baddest bads, but a stirred up memory of a fateful event coupled with the episode’s final seconds leave us wondering if we’ve been looking in the wrong direction.
http://www.screenspy.com/editorials/5-things-to-know-about-once-upon-a-times-manhattan/
To me, that screams Blue. “Looking in the wrong direction” implies someone who is considered to be on the opposing side of the baddies. So they must be talking about someone who is considered good. And if they’re calling them the BIG bad, it’s gotta be someone in a position of power and influence. There’s no one who fits that bill more perfectly than Blue.If it’s gonna be a “spine chilling” twist, then it has to be the person who the general viewing audience would least suspect. Again, Blue fits that bill.
I do believe that K&H have said that Blue is one of the good guys, (don’t recall exactly where or when they said it, but I do remember seeing it somewhere), but I don’t think this necessarily excludes her from being the subject of these spoilers. We don’t know yet what exactly the twist is. It may be something that the reviewers perceived as being an indication of the ultimate big bad, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s gonna be something that’s cut and dried, straight up evil that we see happen.
I’ve always figured that Blue has done what she deems “right” in order to achieve the long term “good” for the maximum amount of people. That doesn’t mean that her actions are all pure though, so I find it believable that we could see her do something at the end of this ep where our initial reaction will be, “OMG how could she do that, she’s so horrible,” but in the grand scheme of things, her actions may still be for the greater good in some way, even if only in her own mind.
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ParticipantWe know that Nealfire stipulates that the conversation with Rumple only last for 3 minutes, which means that he isn’t keen to talk to him at all. After all Rumple’s been through to get to this point, he’s even standing there without any magic in him any more, just like Bae wanted, and to have Bae say, “Nup, not interested,” that could well make Rumple lose it and scream those words at him. Then maybe Emma steps in to try and keep the peace and convince Nealfire to just hear Rumple out, and he says, “Fine, you’ve got 3 minutes.”
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ParticipantHmmm, I’m still not convinced that they’re a couple. If she’s just someone he was with on the outside, they’re not just gonna invite her to come back to town and reveal all their secrets to her.
I’d been thinking she was someone who Blue sent to spy on Neal, and in doing so, she ends up finding the MIA August (before his arrival in SB) as well. Seeing her in this scene that involves Neal, August, and also Blue, would fit with that theory.
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Participant@slurpeez108 wrote:

Oh, boy, here we go. 🙄 Emma must be conflicted.Could he be saying this to Neal? As in, “We made a deal, that if I gave up magic…and look, here I am with no magic, and you still want nothing to do with me?!”
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Participant@Vampirefan12 wrote:
Over in Storybrooke, Emma calls with news that leaves Charming and Snow adorably baffled,
Well that answers the question I had yesterday about if they’d fine out via phonecall or if Emma & Co made it back to SB by ep’s end. I like getting answers!
But here’s where it gets good: Rumple and Bae finally have their much-needed heart to heart. (Even though it’s only three minutes long, per Bae’s request.)
Dang, I can’t hold my breath for a full 3 minutes, I’m totally gonna pass out half way through this scene.
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Participant@AntBee wrote:
Emma’s trip to Manhattan will break her heart. Twice. But maybe it all needed to happen this way?
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Neal broke Emma’s heart 11+ years ago. Perhaps this time Henry breaks her heart when he discovers the truth about how she lied about his dad being dead.
This is my guess too. Henry finds out the truth which causes a temporary rift between him and Emma. However, it was necessary, I think, because, she’ll come to realize that Neal was trying to protect her like she was trying to protect Henry by lying about Neal.
Yeah, I think this spoiler has to be about Henry finding out. Maybe Neal also gets mad at her for having told Henry he was dead?
@Vampirefan12 wrote:
5. The “Undoing” Part Has Us Worried, Frankly
We’ve been assuming Cora, Hook and Regina were Storybrooke’s biggest baddest bads, but a stirred up memory of a fateful event coupled with the episode’s final seconds leave us wondering if we’ve been looking in the wrong direction.This screams BLUE to me.
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