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@PriceofMagic wrote:

@NONNIE wrote:

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I’m guessing we’ll see more of her in at least one future ep. They didn’t drop the bomb about her having slayed the Jabberwock just for the helluvit. There’s a story there waiting to be told.

Sorry but I disagree… I think there are statements made that we are suppose to take at FACE VALUE… If it is said it is to establish character …. I do not think they are going to go back and show the rest of the story…

I don’t think we’ll see Jack again. We saw her skeleton in Tallahassee, now we’ve seen her before she became the skeleton. Her killing the Jabberwock will be mentioned again rather than shown, in my opinion, perhaps in a flashback of another Character possibly Jefferson because we haven’t found out what happened to his wife yet.

You reckon K&H would pass up the opportunity to create their version of a Jabberwock? I reckon that alone would just be too much fun for them to pass up. 😉 I also think that, as the slaying of the Jabberwock was potentially a major event in Wonderland, that that story could be shown when they’re showing how Cora established her rule there. I’d been thinking that the “wise woman” Jack mentioned was probably Cora, just because Jack wasn’t exactly portrayed as a good guy in Tiny, but now I’m wondering if perhaps the Jabberwock had been summoned by Cora in her efforts to overtake Wonderland, and Jack was working for the White Queen instead. I’ll be surprised if the mention of the Jabberwock was just a throwaway line, but I guess time will tell.

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Barbara: “Who is Regina’s enemy, fundamentally, once and for all? And that is the point of the whole thing. Who is Regina’s REAL enemy? Who is it that killed Regina’s happiness?”
Other chick: “Well it was her mother.”
Barbara: “But in CORA’S point of view?……Think about the whooooooooooole thing, at the beginning of the series, and you’ll see what they’re going for.”

It’s around the 47min mark in the interview if you wanna listen to that whole part of the convo. I can’t come up with anything new in relation to that hint she attempted to drop.

I’m thinking Rumple since he tricked Regina into the Dark Curse in the first place…it may have been the reason Cora wouldn’t let Regina leave all those years…she was afraid Rumple would get to her. Then again they might be pointing to Snow (going back to the shows roots). I don’t know how that works in with the betrayal thing unless Cora reveals to Regina the reason the Dark Curse was really cast… She thought Rumple was helping her…but if he arranged all the things in her life that led to all the bad in her life…like Snow and the runaway horse that led to Daniels eventual death…she would see that as betrayal.

It’s just that she was making it sound like it’ll be some big new revelation that’ll make us look at things differently. Rumple screwing over Regina her whole life isn’t exactly a new revelation, I mean, DUH! 😆 Was about to say that maybe Regina didn’t realise the full extent of the manipulation, but then I remembered how I’d assumed that she’d figured out that Jefferson, Viktor and Rumple all conspired against her and set her up, (which is why she made sure that Viktor was cursed, and it explains her extra special disdain for Jefferson), so that wouldn’t really fit as a big twist for me either, if it’s Regina discovering what a pawn she’d been in Rumple’s game.

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@oceangypsy wrote:

There were some other spoilers floating around that the episode features a scene where August gets chased through a crowd by a woman (who was not in season one). I wonder who was chasing him and why.

Do you remember where you saw that? Just did a quick google and didn’t find anything. Could have been Tamara?

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Had to look up which other ep it had been in, (7:15am for anyone else who’s wondering). Very curious that it’s made multiple appearances. Wouldn’t think that would be sheer coincidence. Hmmm.

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Excellent! That seals it that it’s definitely an August centric ep, if they even have Jakob there. 🙂

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

@EvilQueen wrote:

Makes me wonder he knows fully well that Bae is Neal and Henry’s father or at least that Emma knows him.
But he cannot know Bae’s life because he didn’t know where he was, Cora had to help him with the globe.
Perhaps it has something to do with the blind witch, telling him some bits and pieces? I still don’t believe he stole that skill from her and he can see the future. I think of Rumple as immensely clever and cunning man but, who can logically deduct and suspect what can happen but cannot see the future itself, even the slightest glimpse of it – he just must’ve remembered what the seer told him. (he had to ask Snow about Emma’s name)

I agree that perhaps the seer could’ve prophesied something about his son and the savior. Would be very interesting to see that flashback!

Yes, I’m starting to suspect that the prophesy may well have involved their connection, (which would mean that Rumple is already aware of being Henry’s grandfather). I’ve also never thought that Rumple could really see the future. The introduction of this Seer who wants to give up her powers made me start to wonder if maybe he did actually take her powers for himself. But I’d prefer it if he didn’t actually posses that skill, and instead his “foresight” is just based on what the Seer tells him.

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@dena81 wrote:

I’m sure we’ll have something if not tomorrow Thursday at the latest. That’s how it was released last week. Though, something tells me none of it will be Neal.

Yeah, I’ll be surprised if we get any sneak peeks with Neal. Unless it’s the scene where she chases him, and then it ends when she recognises him, but before they show his face.

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OK, have now listened to the audio and collected the melted pieces of my brain…

@Vampirefan12 wrote:

There is at least one reveal that could shock fans, even if other things have been guessed in advance.

I really hope that’s the case! For all the spoilers I read, the show still does manage to surprise me, so hopefully this will be one of those scenarios.

Greg’s “Her” isn’t important, and neither is his license plate, aside from the fact that he’s not from Storybrooke.

Thought this might be some new info, but I see that she’s just repeating what Jane said in the interview we’ve already heard. Here’s the link to that: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/barbara-barnett/2013/01/22/lets-talk-tv-with-special-guest-jane-espenson and they discuss it around the 12min mark.

Jane: We don’t know who “Her” is.
Barbara: Might we find out at some point?
Jane: Oh I’m sure we’ll find out at some point. This show could run, like, 10 more years, and eventually you’ll find out everything. I think that’s the kind of thing you should expect to find out probably this season
Barbara: I know that the camera panned in to the car’s license plate, keying into the fact that it was from Pennsylvania. Might there be signifcance to either the state or the number?
Jane: Certainly the state. I wouldn’t certainly at this point worry too much about the number, but uuuuuhh, but who knows. But certainly the state.

That doesn’t sound to me as though the identity of Her and the license place will never be significant, just that for now, they wanted to establish that he’s from out of state. Barbara does seem to have interpreted it differently though.

The process of how Cora, Regina, and Hook find Rum’s dagger is interesting. They find a clue in the library, something that Hook has some insight into, being a pirate.

Maybe he schools them on the finer points of selecting a location to bury treasure? 😛 That’s all I’ve got for that one.

We will find out why Rum left the dagger behind on his trip to find his son.

I hadn’t considered that there’d be a specific reason he didn’t take it, other than simply wanting to keep it safely hidden, so this comment intrigues me.

@AntBee wrote:

There is an interesting betrayal that happens along the way involving the question of who is Regina’s real enemy.

Okay, this is sort of weird. I think it’s Cora, but that seems like it would be too predictable according to the spoiler, so maybe it’s Hook. That doesn’t make sense either because that’s too predictable, and the writers have said that his quest for revenge on Rumple is far from over.

This part left me confused and clueless.

Barbara: “Who is Regina’s enemy, fundamentally, once and for all? And that is the point of the whole thing. Who is Regina’s REAL enemy? Who is it that killed Regina’s happiness?”
Other chick: “Well it was her mother.”
Barbara: “But in CORA’S point of view?……Think about the whooooooooooole thing, at the beginning of the series, and you’ll see what they’re going for.”

It’s around the 47min mark in the interview if you wanna listen to that whole part of the convo. I can’t come up with anything new in relation to that hint she attempted to drop.

Rum was not drafted into the ogre wars; his service was voluntary. We will find out why he decided to fight, and why he left.

Drat! I should have predicted that Rumple actually volunteered his service because that makes it even more ironic that he became labeled as a coward. (I still believe that there was nothing cowardly about pre-Dark One Rumple, but he became one after he became the Dark One.)

Agreed that I’ve never considered pre-Dark One Rumple as being a coward. Never expected him to have gone willingly to war either. Will be interesting to see his reasoning for enlisting.

@Vampirefan12 wrote:

This spoiler makes me curious: ~ ”apparently Milah’s family will be the cause that changes everything and puts them into the state they were in “The Crocodile”

I don’t recall hearing Milah’s family mentioned. There’s a bit at the 54min mark where she says: “It’s so very very clear that when he goes off to war, they’re very very much in love. And something profoundly changes that, and puts them in the position where they were back in The Crocodile.”

@Kranen wrote:

Also, August makes a brief appearance? What? Why wasn’t Eion in the press release? I guess August must still be a puppet so Eion wasn’t needed. Or I was right the other day & the scenes they were filming were for Manhattan & Eion wasn’t available back in December.

Yes, it’s curious that Eion isn’t listed. Perhaps one of the reveals Barbara mentioned will be that we’ll see where August has been since the curse broke, and that he’s still wood? Perhaps it’ll be a really quick scene, like the last time we saw him in SB? If they want to use him in future eps, it’d make sense to re-introduce him & reveal his location about now.

@ItachiIshtar wrote:

I’m glad that, according to Barbara, we finally find out what August had in his box when he met Neal! She also said that it is NOT a picture of the dagger, nor is it that drawing of Bae.

Wonder if it’s an object that we’ve already seen in his apartment? Or perhaps it’s something small he always carries on him? I’m imagining the reveal of the mystery object will be Neal saying to Emma, “August found me, he had a box, and this was inside,” then he’ll whip out whatever the object is.

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Ah OK, gotcha! 🙂 Hopefully the sneak peeks go public sooner rather than later.

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They have occasionally come out a bit earlier. They don’t usually debut on a website that you need special access to though. That’s a new thing as far as I know.

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