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@slurpeez108 wrote:

I love the promo still but wish we didn’t have to wait another 2 weeks for OUAT to return!

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Prince James might not have been an “evil twin” but rather might have simply been mislead by King George, just as Lancelot was mislead. Maybe James is just following orders as an officer in the giant wars. I’m sure there are two sides to every story. (Or he might just have been charmed by “Jack” with her uhhhh, shall we say, endowed persona).

😆 Every which way you look on this show, there’s bewbs galore.

This was the pic that instantly made me not like James…

…he’s plotting for Jack to go and endow her assets on poor Anton to trick him so they can hurt him.

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@TheGoldenKey wrote:

“Phee” I don’t personally make the connection to him being a writer, given what we’ve seen of him thus far. For me, the food critic theory is a bit of a leap, and I think they just showed him tweeting food pics because it’s a mundane thing that many mundane people do, and they’re trying to fool us into believing he’s just a regular guy.

I’ve thought for ages that Blue Fairy wrote the book, as she was in a position to know everyone’s stories. And I think she planted it with MM in SB with the intent that it’d end up in Henry’s hands, which would get him clued into the curse business, which would drive him to find Emma. So when K&H say we’ll meet the writer of the book, I figure that means it’ll be a reveal that Blue wrote it, and Greg wouldn’t have a place in that storyline if I stick with that line of thinking I’ve had for ages.

If Greg did write the book, then how did it end up in SB? The tone of his phonecall didn’t sound to me like someone who was revisiting a place he’d been before. And if he’d sent the book there instead of delivering it, then he’d have already known where the town was, and wouldn’t be all excited to have stumbled on now.

Yes! 😀 We are now discussing the theory at hand.

I can understand you taking all the pictures on his cell phone as meaning that he’s a regular Joe Blow. That certainly gives me food for thought. 😉 I do have to say though, the first thing that jumped through my mind was that he was a food critic. But then, maybe I’m watching too many food network shows these days. 😀

And maybe I see too much random food talk from friends in my Twitter feed. I often know what folks are having for dinner. 😉 There was one time I recall where a couple of friends were RTing pics from Neil Patrick Harris, who was at one of those uber fancy restaurants where your meal consists of about 20 small courses, all of them ridiculous gourmet stuff, and he tweeted about each course as it came to the table. Not because he was writing a review, just because he wanted to share what he was eating, (I don’t follow him, but from what I’ve heard, I gather he’s got a rep as a foodie because he often tweets about delicious stuff he’s eating). Also, Greg’s pics had hashtags, which I wouldn’t associate with someone who’s a professional food critic, I just associate it with a regular guy who wanted to be all, #thiswasseriouslyawesomeyoushouldtryitsometime

Henry’s book could have been one of hundreds that were published through a publisher. There are many books in Storybrooke. They came from the outside world, just as all their supplies did and still do. Wouldn’t be unusual for a copy of his book to have been there without Greg’s knowledge.

I’ve always considered Henry’s book to be a one off. If there were lots of copies of it circulating around in our world, then the true stories, as in the book, aren’t as special or unique, because the whole world would have known about them. There’s a line in an ep somewhere where Emma, I think, makes a comment about the versions in Henry’s book being different to the ones you usually hear. Can’t recall what ep it was in to look up the exact quote, though.

“Phee” I do love me some Neverending Story, but could Greg’s age be a glitch in that theory? Ethan’s 34, the curse happened about 29 years ago, (if we include the time that’s passed since Emma got to town), which means if Greg is a real world person, (similar to Bastian), he was only about 5 when SB arrived, and by that point, all of FTL history had played out, without any interaction from him reading it. Events in SB aren’t in the book, so he can’t have read about that part of the story to end up being a part of it that way.

Ah, this is the feedback I was looking for 😀 You bring up an excellent point Phee. Going to have to think on this. Let me ask you though. Would Greg’s age not throw a glitch in him being the WofOz? I know back when I posted the thread “Ethan Embry is”, I stated I’d love to see him as the WofOz, however, his age was throwing me off as I thought he’d be at least in his 50’s. In 2×05, The Doctor, the Ruby Slippers are discussed and from Jefferson’s response it seems that they have already slipped out of Oz, presumably on Dorothy’s feet. That would have been at least 15 years prior to the curse thus being 43 years ago. Are you assuming that Greg remained in Oz all those years and has just recently returned?

I think once you start jumping between worlds, you don’t necessarily have to stick to a linear timeline. If you did, then we’d have no possibility for present, modern day Bae, (for those who think he came straight here, without bypassing another land first, where he couldn’t age). You can jump across “time and space” if need be. WofOz, and Dorothy, could have jumped from Oz to any point in time in our world, just like Bae could have. WofOz is traditionally considered to be older, but then, so is Hook. 😉 Maybe WofOz was actually only 30-ish when he left Oz, and he landed in our world recently on our real world timeline, even if he left Oz at the same time that Dorothy used the slippers.

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@obisgirl wrote:

@Phee wrote:

I’ve got a feeling that Prince James is gonna end up being a bit of a douchebag.

Of course he is! Look at his adopted father, King George. He’s not exactly the nicest guy in fairytale land. That honor went to Snow’s father, King Leopold.

Guess nurture won out over nature in this situation. Unless James was born the evil twin…there’s always gotta be an evil one, right? 😈 Maybe Rumple sensed some seed of nastiness in the baby, and that’s why he chose that particular twin.

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@tombo671 wrote:

I wouldn’t mind if Hook was older than Rumple, however i just can’t see it due to the actors, Colin is only 31 while Robert is 48, and no makeup can really cover that up.

Indeed, but the theory that Hook is older relies on him having been to Neverland before, (which people are wondering about, because he seemed very certain in his knowledge of the place when he told Smee that’s where they were going). There’s every chance that he could have lived in Neverland for 100 years as a child, and only aged to adulthood after he left.

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@Swanning-Off wrote:

I don’t think Emma’s lie detecting ability is actually a super power. I always thought that was just a joke to get Henry onside.

Given her past life, pre storybrooke, I think she would need to “read” people well. In certain lines of work, you get pretty good at reading people, picking up on non-verbal cues that give them away. In my job (criminal law), we call it our radar or antenna. I can’t tell if my client is lying to me, but I can get a reliable sense of when I need to ask more questions or something is off. I think that’s all Emma’s “superpower” is – not a magical ability to tell if someone is lying but just a skill from her past to read someone and tell when something is off.

Yeah, I’ve never thought it was a legit “super power” either, she’s just good at reading people. As you say, she had to be good at it in her former line of work.

One thing I’m not so sure she was good at in her former line of work though was subtlety and not being in control. We’ve only seen her working one job, at the very start of the show, but she didn’t keep her cool for very long before she laid the smackdown on that guy, and the whole time she was playing it cool, she knew she had the upper hand. Totally different situation to what she found herself in with Greg. She was flying blind and couldn’t get aggressive, which I think accounts somewhat for her awkwardness and terrible interrogation technique.

@Kellyn1604 wrote:

I also wouldn’t be surprised if she bugged his phone or something before she gave it back. We know they have that technology…I think the writers are setting Emma up to look foolish now and we will see her brilliance revealed later. At least, I am hoping…. 🙂

That’s a great idea about her bugging his phone! I share your hope that she’ll outwit Greg in the end.

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@PriceofMagic wrote:

It’s Emma’s facial expression that makes it work, she just looks so uncomfortable. 😆

I’d happily take her place. That is brilliant! 😆

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@TheGoldenKey wrote:

However, this thread isn’t about Greg Mendell’s fairy tale counterpart, if indeed he even has one. This theory is about Greg Mendell, the Outsider, and what he does for a living and what connection, as a OUTSIDER, he may have towards Storybrooke.

For me, the two things are connected, but that’s because I think he’s WofOz. Someone originally from our world, who went to Oz, then came back, and I think that whatever he’s been doing in our world, has been a personal search for SB, which he has an interest in as someone who has past experience with magical, storybook characters.

I think his arrival in town will show a converging of the scientific and the magical, a theme which they’ve already laid the groundwork for with the Frankenstein stuff. Viktor doesn’t have any true allies in town when it comes to science vs magic, and he’s started to lose hope. But if WofOz, someone who is more scientist than the magician he was once believed to be, was able to use his research in our non-magical world to locate SB, then that’s a little victory for science over magic, which could have an impact on Viktor’s beliefs and how the character progresses.

Greg’s place in the town could ultimately relate to the search for a way back to FTL, (another theme they’ve laid the groundwork for), if he has experience in finding ways to magical lands from our world. He did it when he went to Oz, he did it when he found SB, so it stands to reason that he should be able to find a way to FTL too. So like I said, for me, his potential storybook character past and his position in the real world and his connection to SB, are all intertwined, so I can’t really discuss one without considering the other as well.

I’m open minded to consider all theories at this stage of the game because there is still so much information and clues to come. Having said that, what if he is just an outsider? Is it that far fetched to consider that he could be the writer of the book? The clues I’ve listed would certainly support this. K&H did say, last year, that we’d meet the author of the book this season.

I don’t personally make the connection to him being a writer, given what we’ve seen of him thus far. For me, the food critic theory is a bit of a leap, and I think they just showed him tweeting food pics because it’s a mundane thing that many mundane people do, and they’re trying to fool us into believing he’s just a regular guy.

I’ve thought for ages that Blue Fairy wrote the book, as she was in a position to know everyone’s stories. And I think she planted it with MM in SB with the intent that it’d end up in Henry’s hands, which would get him clued into the curse business, which would drive him to find Emma. So when K&H say we’ll meet the writer of the book, I figure that means it’ll be a reveal that Blue wrote it, and Greg wouldn’t have a place in that storyline if I stick with that line of thinking I’ve had for ages.

If Greg did write the book, then how did it end up in SB? The tone of his phonecall didn’t sound to me like someone who was revisiting a place he’d been before. And if he’d sent the book there instead of delivering it, then he’d have already known where the town was, and wouldn’t be all excited to have stumbled on now.

@Kellyn1604 wrote:

So, I was thinking about Greg being the author of the book and it reminded me of The Neverending Story. A book where the characters are real and living the plot and a little boy reading it becomes part of the plot. In our case, the author becomes a part of it….a character in his own story…I like it.

I do love me some Neverending Story, but could Greg’s age be a glitch in that theory? Ethan’s 34, the curse happened about 29 years ago, (if we include the time that’s passed since Emma got to town), which means if Greg is a real world person, (similar to Bastian), he was only about 5 when SB arrived, and by that point, all of FTL history had played out, without any interaction from him reading it. Events in SB aren’t in the book, so he can’t have read about that part of the story to end up being a part of it that way.

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@ItachiIshtar wrote:

@tiara_rose wrote:

OZ hint.I’m a shipper, so in the moment he could be the wrighter or somebody from Oz or both.

Probably not a legit hint, but Frank OZ was the actor/puppeteer who played Yoda in Star Wars. That MUST be what the Star Wars clues mean! 😆

😆 Genius, you are. Of the SW ringtone, you have solved the mystery.

@myril wrote:

Counted on someone taking it up 😉

Thanks for the info! 🙂

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I’ve got a feeling that Prince James is gonna end up being a bit of a douchebag.

Also, I can’t wait to hear whatever inappropriate gem Hook says to Snow that results in Charming choking him. 😈

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Glad they’re gonna be doing more of Mulan’s backstory. I know she’s not necessarily a huge fan fave, but I like her well enough and hope that when her story is fleshed out more, the fandom will find her more interesting.

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