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@CinnamonHummingbird wrote:

I can’t see Hook with anyone but Milah, tbh. After all it would make the whole vengeance arc a little bit preposterous for me, if he suddenly finds another “true love”. He could “hook up” with one of the available females, but having the same measurement of affection and love he once shared with Milah makes the whole structure and build-up of his story arc seem a bit unsteady and non credible.

..and the fact that I can’t see the point in vengeance over a dead body at all, which is a general aversion and has nothing to do with the character himself. 🙁

I think, at the end of the day, that’s gonna be the big lesson that Hook is gonna learn, that holding onto that anger for 250 odd years wasn’t really worth it, and that’s not the life Milah would have wanted for him, (similar to how FrankenDaniel told Regina to let him go and love again). That’s why I think Hook can love again, and someone’s gonna come along and show him that it’s possible to move on and be happy. That doesn’t negate his vengeance story arc, that arc will have been necessary in order for him to realise how special it is when he finally wakes up and gets his second chance.

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@Kiwi wrote:

Think about it? She’s the Queen of Hearts. Where does she come from? Wonderland. What do we know you can do in Wonderland? Thats right – shrink people.

Can’t believe I hadn’t made that connection. Of course, if anyone has the means to shrink a Giant, it’s someone from Wonderland.

There’s a bit in the promo where you see Charming uncovering a cage on Hook’s boat, so they had him captured before they came to SB and he’s been hidden on the boat until now.

Regarding David’s name, my money is on Joseph, coz it fits with Mary as names for parents of the Saviour, and James and Joseph is also a cute pair of names that Ruth, (another Biblical name) would have given her twin babies.

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

I have a foreboding sense that Cora might not make it to S3 (which would be fine by me).

I was thinking about that just before actually, and it wouldn’t surprise me either.

With Lana tweeting the word “KILLER” to describe The Miller's Daughter, I'm wondering if she might have meant it literally. It was in the ep where we got Graham's back story that he died, so maybe they'll do it again?

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@Jasperann wrote:

I hope they show how Hook and the Giant part ways after he is unlocked. He had the Giant’s bean and I’m not sure how he would have gotten that without killing the Giant which he obviously didn’t do. That was the Giant’s bean right? Or maybe it was a different one but I thought he used the one he kept from Rumple.

It’s definitely the Giant’s bean, Hook says so when he shows Emma at Rumple’s cell. One thing I’d wondered about, but thought it may have just been an inconsistency, was that that bean was small, and the one the Giant wore was big. However, now that we know that Cora shrank the Giant and had him in a cage on the boat, I’m guessing that happened before the stuff at Rumple’s cell. Cora shrank the Giant, that shrank the bean, and Hook just took it while the Giant was unconscious, (I’d imagine you’d need to knock an angry Giant out in order to wrangle him into a cage).

Anyone else see Charming choking Hook? Can’t wait to see that too.

Maybe he said something stereotypically inappropriate to Emma and Charming goes into Papa mode. 😛

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@Gaultheria wrote:

I liked this episode a lot. It was dark, but it didn’t take itself too seriously.
Some favourite moments:
– the doctor dressed as The (4th) Doctor
– Disney celebrating its big acquisition from King George
– Emma banging her head in frustration
– the return of Cool Igor

Who is the 4th Doctor you are talking about?

Dr Who. The character regularly “regenerates” whenever they switch actors, think they’re up to 10th or 11th now, and each one is known in the fandom by his number. The 4th was one of the most iconic Doctors: http://www.doctorwhoexperience.com/experience.php?id=95&page=tom-baker

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With all of that world travelling she claims to have done, I’m quite sure she’s picked up a new trick or two, other than what Rumple taught her. She seriously gives me the creeps!!

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Isn’t it fun when they throw a bunch of random numbers and whatnot at us and leave us to figure it out? Love seeing all the different ideas and interpretations. 🙂

@EvilQueen wrote:

Oh, and is it just me, or does Greg know a bit too much? As in, he didn’t tell Emma that he saw anything, heck, he risked his licence by saying he was texting! But he was very quick to call this other person and tell her/him something interesting…
Now, I’m also not sure what was it that this person “wasn’t going to believe in” – was it that he saw some magic (which excuse me, but I highly doubt, that ball of fire was hardly visible from behind of Rumple’s hand! especially at that car speed!) OR that he saw Rumple or Hook and that was what was so interesting? Maybe he was looking for one of them for ages?

I think Greg was very purposefully looking for SB. I think “Her” knows what he was searching for. So his, “You’ll never believe what I saw,” was along the lines of, “I found them, we were right!” That could play into him having been from a magical land, and once he was in our world, he was seeking out magic here. Depending on who he was, where he was, and when he came back to our world, he may have even had knowledge of the curse, and that could be the reason he was trying to track everyone down.

My fave theory right now for this guy is the Wizard theory, which would fit quite well, if he’s someone from our world, who has interacted with a magical land, then come back, and is searching to find a remnant of a magical land in our world. In such a scenario, I’m imagining that “Her” is Dorothy, because she’d be someone who has had similar experiences to him, and would understand his current mission, so they’d make a good pair IMO.

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Well here’s what I find rather odd. All his outgoing calls are from Pennsylvania, some as inland as Erie. Yet all his pictures show him on the east coast. Doesn’t make any sense. So, we have NO area codes or numbers linking him to the coastline nor do they show him travelling from Pennsylvania to Maine.

As I was getting towards the end of the list, searching the codes, I thought, “Please let one be from outside PA, just to mix it up.” I did find it interesting that the final one is for “New Castle”. All the others had a compass bearing, but that one just straight up said “Pittsburgh, New Castle”. If we’re thinking he is from Pittsburgh, because that’s where the repeated number is from, then it’s interesting to see that paired up with “New Castle.” New monarch? New ruler of a new land? We have a Newcastle here in Australia, but it’s all the one world, so it stuck out to me that the PA one is spelled as two separate words, especially when castles are kind of a thing on this show.

Something else that stroke me as odd. From the pictures he’s supposedly visiting the coast. Yet all pics of his meal are beef and no seafood. No lobster, crab, fish????

It’s super blurry on the screencap, and I hadn’t originally noticed it when I was making them, but up the top right corner it seems to say “2 weeks ago”, so those pics may not have been taken on his east coast trip.

@TheGoldenKey wrote:

Found the statue in the first pic. It’s part of a collection in Steveston BC, the fictional town of Storybrooke.

Thanks for figuring that out, was hoping the statue mystery would be solved. There were some set pics recently where he’d apparently just been posing for photos, and I think he might have been wearing that big coat, like in the pic with the statue, so perhaps that’s when that was taken.

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Even after seeing the kiss in the ep, I still can’t really see the baby daddy theory panning out. I know it was implied, and obviously they want us to question it, but I’ll still be surprised if Rumple ends up being her father. If he was, he’d know, and after all he went through with Bae, why would he intentionally set out to corrupt his own child the way he did Regina? Does not compute.

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Looks like they’ll be disabling the security system at Mr Gold’s shop. Question is, what are they trying to get at? Mr Gold himself, or just something he’s got in his stash of goodies at the shop?

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Hadn’t seen that pic of Charming on the ground before. The shots of MRJ with the sword have been discussed a bit in the SwanThief thread, including how the sword looks like a piratey cutlass.

I’d hope that Neal isn’t the reason Charming ends up on the ground, but then, we dunno what present day Neal is like, so we dunno how he’s gonna react to people in SB, including Emma’s parents.

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