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ParticipantWHOA, MAMA! Her sass was fabulous, and then that scene where she told Annalise about how she’d killed the abusive uncle, like DANG. All those years when Annalise held it against her mother for not having protected her, and then it all comes out about how her mother was abused too, and she had that mindset that it was just what happened to a female when a male was around, but then to find out that Mama was like, “NOPE, ENOUGH,” and burned him alive. ALL the props to Mama, for real.
“No woman wants to be on the receiving end of THAT.” Bless you, Mama. LOL Frank’s gonna need some bleach for his eyeballs. I can almost understand why Bonnie jumped Asher, considering he was the only one who kept the faith in her through that whole case, but still, it’s Asher, so RLY Bonnie?
The Rebecca twist was so cool because all this time it’s sorta been set up like other people are doing the heavy lifting to look after her, but then BAM, she’s savvy enough to be tracking Wes’ phone. I just don’t even know what to think about Rudy and the “wet” when he saw her pic. Like, on the one hand it seems to be confirmation that Rebecca killed Lila and dumped her in the water tower. It would be totally believable if Rebecca came home wet, Rudy ran into her in the hall, and then she fed him a drug overdose that fried his brain so that he couldn’t incriminate her after Lila’s wet body was found. But on the other hand, the fact that they seemed to so blatantly point the finger at Rebecca makes me think there might still be another twist in store. GAH, I DUNNO!
What’s up with the wall scratches? Is there deeper meaning to the wall scratches?
I liked how Annalise slipped the note to Nate, but I’m still not convinced that she always intended to help him get out. Wonder who’s on the other end of that phone number.
Mama needs to be on Once and talk to all the characters. Her and Granny can have a spinoff. I’d so watch the crap out of that show.
I need this in my life!
I am just flabbergasted by this show. This show has great plotting and twists and bombshells. A show with showrunners who don’t underestimate their audience’s intelligence or result to bad tropes to push storylines (I’m looking at a certain show).
WORD!!! They also have legit layered characters. Characters that do morally dubious things, but you can still have sympathy for them. You want characters with shades of grey instead of just black and white good and evil, this is how it’s done.
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ParticipantAfter she solved the riddle I got a very distinct Harley Quinn vibe. I had thought the girl in the file room that Nygma flirts with was going to be Harley, but…now I’m not so sure.
Well Harley Quinn is supposed to be a doctor that worked at Arkham. But Leslie is her own separate character in the comics and she’s not a nutjob. So I dunno if they’d mash up those two characters?
I fully expect Kristen Kringle to end up dead and that’ll be what makes Ed snap and go dark.
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ParticipantI can’t believe they’d have both actresses in the same ep and expect us to buy that they’re the same person. They might have similar hair, but their faces are completely different due to ethnicity. It’s absurd.
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ParticipantMRJ’s new project sounds promising, if it’s based off a forumla that they know has worked elsewhere then hopefully it’ll take off in the US market too. Sounds like his character will be kinda shady. Maybe we can have Baevil viariously through this Gil guy. 😉
PS. This is a late reaction but YAY Heather for having been RTd by the one and only GaGa! 🙂
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ParticipantI can agree that it was disjointed. This was the part of the season where they’d gotten the order for more eps, so they were having to extend beyond what they’d originally planned, so I can see how things ended up a bit that way. I enjoyed most of the separate parts though.
I’m always gonna love anything with Oswald, that’s a given. And I’m also gonna love anything with Mama Cobblepot. I loved her horribly sung, mournful song, and I loved that Oswald killed the guy who dissed her.
I can always do without Barbara, and honestly I’d been hoping she wouldn’t show up again until she had the start of a baby bump so we didn’t have to worry about her and Jim ever getting back together even for a one night stand. It’s a bit ridiculous how easily she accepted that these two homeless kids were shacked up in her apartment. But then if you consider that lately she’s been hanging out with Jim, Renee, and her parents, all people who have told her where to go in various ways, I can buy it that hanging out with Cat and Ivy was a welcome change, so she just went with it. Plus she’s probably been high and/or drunk for most of the time we haven’t seen her, so she’s not really in her right mind.
Bruce going to the Board was a long time coming, and I loved that he was this little boy, totally putting a bunch of adults on notice, whilst reading notes from a notebook page with creepy doodles on it. I think they got that scene just right.
I’m actually appreciating Fish more now. Before I was always thinking a bit of, “Oh honey, you really believe you can take down the freaking Mob Boss?” so she came off as a bit tryhard sometimes. But now I’m actually kinda impressed that she ended up at the absolute bottom of the food chain and efficiently took control of her own mob of people. I’m intrigued to see who they’re taking her to meet with, and how it’ll all work into her plans to worm her way back into Gotham. Before I just kinda expected her to end up dead and I wouldn’t mind how soon it happened. Now I hope she sticks it out for a bit longer.
I’m meh about Jim and Leslie. I’m glad he’s not with Barbara, so I’m fine with him being with Lesie instead, but the actors have zero chemistry IMO. I think Morena’s disembodied, computerised voice has more chemistry in brief scenes with Tom Cavangh on The Flash than her whole self has with Ben McKenzie. I like Leslie fine as a character, (though it grated a bit that in this ep they had a riddle and Ed didn’t get to solve it, so she needs to step off the riddles), I’m just not feeling the ship feels.
And I kinda love how they’ve set up the guy who will end up being the Joker, (I know they haven’t officially confirmed it yet, but c’mon you know he will be). I like that if you think about how he’ll end up dressed as a clown, and his future girlfriend will dress like one too, that it can all be traced back some sort of twisted oedipus complex and matricide thing. It’s messed up, as the Joker should be.
And I like that he has ties to the Graysons because it felt to me like they might be setting it up so that if the show ever gets to a point where they do have a fully formed Joker, they could quite believably have a story where he goes and wipes out the circus, kills the Graysons, and that’s how Dick ends up with Bruce, which would automatically pit Batman and the Joker against each other on a personal level.
Also, Cameron Monaghan was FABULOUS, and I hope we see some more of him.
They have thrown a LOT of characters at us this season in little chunks. I can only assume that that was their original plan because if they didn’t end up getting a full season, they still wanted to fit in a lot of Batman-y things. But as set up for a long term show, I think it can work out if they use certain characters sparingly to build them up over several seasons, now that they’ve been introduced. I dunno what their endgame for this season will be, but I feel like they’ll be able to get some longevity out of the show.
The finale is in two(?) weeks
There are 22 eps total, so we’ve got 6 left.
February 17, 2015 at 10:11 pm in reply to: TVLine: Matt's Inside Line 2/16 – Robin Hood and Lily #296206Phee
ParticipantNever mind the fact that his arm was covered throughout all of “Lacey,” anyway.
In the scene when Rumple had him strung up to the ceiling, his sleeve had fallen down just enough that you can see he had no tattoo. Nitpickers had a field day with screencaps of that.
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ParticipantHope you’ve had a Happy Birthday, Macy! 🙂
I think im like Heather now, simply bc i just saw the creators and writers of Libs talking with the writers of this stupid show, im already seing the season 2, ships, ships, ships, and no sense storylines. Save libs from ouat people. Im even more angry now.
When I saw it had been renewed I decided I was definitely gonna watch S1. But this news makes me worry and now I dunno if I wanna get invested in it. Man, stupid OUAT is even preventing me from enjoying other shows now. BAH!
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ParticipantI don’t think it’s Lily just because I think the audience made more out of the character than was intended.
So did I, but then they said in an interview that Lily would be seen again.
I’m not too learned in Arthurian legends and all that, but does her description sound similar to Morgana?
Queen Morgan le Fay /ˈmɔrɡən lə ˈfeɪ/, alternatively known as Morgan le Faye, Morgen, Morgaine, Morgain, Morgana, Morganna, Morgant, Morgane, Morgne, Morge, Morgue, and other names, is a powerful enchantress in the Arthurian legend. Early works featuring Morgan do not elaborate her character beyond her role as a fay or sorceress. She became much more prominent in the later cyclical prose works such as the Lancelot-Grail and the Post-Vulgate Cycle, in which she becomes an enemy of King Arthur and an antagonist of many stories. Her character may be partially derived from that of the Welsh goddess Modron.
The early accounts of Geoffrey of Monmouth in Vita Merlini and Gerald of Wales refer to Morgan in conjunction with the Isle of Apples (Avalon) to which the fatally wounded Arthur was carried off after the Battle of Camlann. To the former, she was a healer and an enchantress, the eldest of nine sisters. In early chivalric romance stories by Chrétien de Troyes, she also figures as a healer. In later stories, Morgan is said to be the daughter of Arthur’s mother Lady Igraine and her first husband Gorlois, so that Arthur, the son of Igraine and Uther Pendragon, is her half-brother. She becomes an apprentice of Merlin and a vindictive adversary of Arthur the Round Table, with a special hatred for his wife Queen Guinevere. In Thomas Malory’s Le Morte d’Arthur and elsewhere, she is married, unhappily, to King Urien, with whom she has the son Ywain, and her sisters include Morgause. She has also many lovers and an unrequited love for Lancelot. Morgan is an indirect instrument of Arthur’s death, though she eventually reconciles with him and retains her original role, serving as one of the queens who take him to Avalon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan_le_FayCasting call for the character they think Agnes might be playing…
Yet Bruckner seems to perfectly fit a casting call that recently went out for the role of “Autumn,” a charismatic and fiercely independent woman who “easily wraps others into her schemes.” Yet despite her “penchant for troublemaking,” the casting notice reads, “Autumn” “just wants to be loved.” Alas, her misguided methods typically wind up alienating those she loves most.I could see that description working for Morgana. And if they do go with the owner of the Hat being Merlin, they’ll almost have to have Morgana, because she’s a part of his story. I’d be a bit bummed if she was only a 3 ep character though, because I think she has potential to be a Big Bad at some point.
February 16, 2015 at 10:58 pm in reply to: TVLine: Matt's Inside Line 2/16 – Robin Hood and Lily #296121Phee
ParticipantGuys honestly…I think we need to be prepared for a retcon—I think the writers are banking on the majority of their audience not questioning this like we are. They are hoping the audience won’t remember Belle not questioning who RH was or that Marian recognzied both me as RH right away
Which is contradictory in itself because they want to explain why Tom Ellis Robin Hood became Sean Maguire Robin Hood, which seems like something they’re only addressing because of people who actually remember Tom Ellis Robin Hood. Wouldn’t casual viewers not give that a second thought? So if they are banking on the audience not remembering past details, why try to explain a past detail in the first place?
Yeah, it just doesn’t compute.
If they insisted on explaining it, I’d be fine with him having temporarily disguised himself when he broke into Rumple’s castle, so that if he were captured/killed, he couldn’t be recognised and tied back to Marian and the Merry Men and get them in trouble too. If not for the fact that Belle recognised him, though.
They should just leave it alone.
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ParticipantWell that’s interesting. I wonder if Paige (and possibly Jefferson) will actually be in this episode or if it’s just a reference.
I’d believe we might see Paige again, but I doubt we’ll see Jefferson. Seb Stan has moved onto bigger things and become a character in the Marvel universe. Imdb says he’s currently shooting a movie that I know nothing about but it’s being directed by Ridley Scott, so it’s probably a decent gig. And to top it off, going back to being on OUAT means running into his ex-gf. All things considered, I’d be surprised if we ever see Jefferson on the show again, (which SUCKS because he was such a great character).
It seems Cruella does shape shift into a dalmation. What if Pongo is also a shape shifter but was trapped in dalmation form during the curse like Maleficent was trapped in dragon form? What if there is more to Pongo than meets the eye?
Dunno about Pongo being a human trapped in dog form, but I’m gonna guess that Henry might assume that DalmationCruella is Pongo running around in this scene.
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