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I know the showrunners don’t typically have input in the creation of the promos, but do you reckon they sent a note for this one, “Make sure you include the Corumple kiss, it’ll drive everyone NUTS for a full week. BWHAHAHAHAHAA.” 😈
[adrotate group="5"]@Elle wrote:
In The Dotor, we see that Victor was successful in bringing his brother back to life–it seems most likely something we wrong. Maybe it was similar to what happened to Daniel when he came back to life. And we don’t really know how his brother was when the curse came–it could be that time is of the esscence.
It would be consistent if Gerhardt hadn’t reacted well to having someone else’s heart stuck in him, like what happened with Daniel. Maybe Viktor tried it in SB to test if someone else would react the same say Gerhardt did, so he could continue his research and try to figure out a way to fix him. We never really got an explanation as to why he did it in SB, did we? Surely he didn’t just get bored one day and decide to give it a bash for the helluvit.
@tiara_rose wrote:
I hope Rumple didn’t kill the brother to get Frankenstein back to work.
I hope not. I know he’s all about manipulating people to his own means, but surely it would have been easier for him to go after someone in their own world, rather than go to the trouble of setting up someone in another world. Though I guess if he didn’t want Regina to figure out how she’d been manipulated, perhaps recruiting someone from another world was a preferable option? Hmmm, guess it could go either way.
Ah, good old Captain Jack Sparrow! 😆
@scaredcrow65 wrote:
Oh my god, why are they kissing?! Any opinions on this? I don’t know how to cope anymore.
If you check the thread for the promo for this ep, there are many opinions on it in there. 😉
@RumplesGirl wrote:
(every time I watch that scene, I am struck that everyone is wearing black EXCEPT Gerherdt. And it’s not just because he is in his military uniform, so is the PapaFrakenstein, and it’s black).
He stands out like a freaking beacon in the otherwise grey and black room. There’s no way that was an accident.
Has anyone seen SyFy’s miniseries “Alice?” In it, the White Rabbit is the name of the Queen’s military/spy organization. Their job is to abduct people from the “real” world and when he fails the QoH has him executed. Anyone know if Cora was spotted in the black and white land of the past???
Haven’t seen that show, thanks for posting the info. Wonder if Cora could be the reason that poor Gerhardt ends up such a mess…and in need of a replacement heart.
Viktor was working on bringing Gerhardt back to life around the time that Regina was starting to use magic, which was not long after Cora had been sent to Wonderland. Maybe the duties of the White Rabbit weren’t so perilous up until that point, but then on one of his trips, he ran into Cora who was in the process of asserting her power in Wonderland, and he got in her way and ended up coming home in bits and pieces that Viktor had to stitch back together.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
We know Cora has been to many worlds, she told Hook that yet all we’ve seen is her in FTL and WL. I feel it is quite possible that she traveled to Oz and maybe struck an alliance with the Wizard, making her in some way the Wicked Witch of the West (would love to see a map on this show telling where the kingdoms are in relation to one another). The deal is Cora will help the Wizard get home but then whenever Cora makes it to our world, he must be at her beck and call. Might explain why he was traveling so late at night in Maine.
That could be fun! Perhaps she was able to send him to the time in our world when the curse would break, so he’d be able to head there at the right time to help her.
Following this, is it possible that the Blue Fairy (as loathe as I am to want to say this…) might be our Glinda the Good Fairy? Except that instead of stopping Cora, her only role was to help Dorothy.
I’ve always had the feeling that Blue was confined to FTL. She’s the head honcho when it comes to good magic in that world, so I dunno if she’d have left her world unguarded by popping off to other worlds. Who knows what Rumple might get up to while she was away, and God forbid she got trapped in another world somehow.
That being said, I could see if maybe she was able to communicate with the good guy head honchos in other worlds, so perhaps they could tie her to Oz by having her communicating to Oz’s good witches that the magic slippers in their world had to be guarded, because The Dark One was seeking ways to get to the world they went to. So perhaps Blue could have instigated Dorothy getting the slippers.
The Jekyll/Hyde idea is intriguing, but something that keeps me from considering it as an option is how/why would he have ended up in our world, which is clearly where Greg has been?
With the Wizard, and even with Peter Pan, both of those guys could have believably been in our world. The Wizard was originally from our world, and in the story, he leaves Oz to go home. Peter Pan could fly between our world and Neverland. Of course, they could come up with any way that anyone got from any world to ours, but with those two, there’s already a basis for the story.
If he’s the Wizard, it wouldn’t so much be a science vs magic theme they could go for with him, but they could do illusion vs magic (vs science if Frankenstein is still around to stick his nose in). The Wizard could have that “way of life he’ll fight to defend” from the casting call if he believes that actual magic is unnecessary. He reached Rumple levels of infamy without having to actually cast a single spell or curse, or kill a single person. Which is pretty impressive really.
Perhaps he’d be able to help them trick the rest of the world into not suspecting who they really are, which could play into the debate between those who want to stay, and those who want to leave.
If Neal is Bae, then not only would seeing a pic of Rumple in the box convince him that August had connections and knew the truth, but it’d probably also scare him into complying.
@Sedorna wrote:
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
Maybe because he’s a professor of science? That’s what I thought when I read his last name. Professor of Science equals Professor Marvel/Wizard of OZ ? 😕
Well, Mendel did do his experiments mainly with pea plants, which are green. Emeralds are green, too, and so is the Emerald City. Or not. It might have been just the green glasses everybody wore, if I remember the book correctly.
Wikipedia sez…
In the first book, The Wonderful Wizard of Oz, the walls are green, but the city itself is not. However, when they enter, everyone in the Emerald City is made to wear green-tinted eyeglasses; this is explained as an effort to protect their eyes from the “brightness and glory” of the city, but in effect makes everything appear green when it is, in fact, “no more green than any other city.” This is yet another “humbug” created by the Wizard. In this book, the Wizard also describes the city as having been built for him within a few years after he arrived. It was he who decreed that all who are in the Emerald City must wear green eyeglasses, since the first thing he noticed about Oz after he landed in his hot-air balloon was how green and pleasant the country was.
In the second book, The Marvelous Land of Oz, however, the characters are required to wear the glasses at first, but half way through the book, no more eyeglasses appear, no more mention is made of the brilliance, but the city is still described as green. This is continued throughout the series. The only allusions to the earlier conception appeared in The Road to Oz, where the Little Guardian of the Gates wears green spectacles, the only character to do so.
The Oz books describe the Emerald City as being built of green glass, emeralds, and other jewels. In the earlier books, it was described as completely green, but in later ones, green was merely the predominating color; the buildings were decorated with gold as well, and people added other colors to their costumes. In the first book, one scene of the Emerald City is of particular note in the development of Oz: Dorothy sees rows of shops, selling green articles of every variety, and a vendor of green lemonade, from whom children bought it with green pennies. This contrasts with the later description of Oz, in which money does not feature.
In summary, folks in Oz dig the colour green.
I wonder if there is a connection between him and Whale/Frankenstein, since Whale wants to save his brother who, I assume, is genetically related to him. Also, there appeared to be a boatload oF Wizard of Oz references during the Whale is Frankenstein episode.
Since The Doctor, I’ve been wondering if Frankenstein had been in Oz with Jefferson, (when he went there to get stuff for Rumple), because he wanted to meet the famous Wizard who has a reputation for giving people missing body parts.
On another note, the first ever American hot air balloon ride took place in Pennsylvania. The car is from PA. The Wizard of Oz travels by hot air balloon.
Interesting fact about the hot air balloon! All these little tidbits…I’m on the verge of officially committing to TeamWizard for this guy.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
I think it’s to show which son is the favourite. Victor’s younger brother gets a family heirloom which has been handed down throughout the generations. Normally the eldest child gets the heirloom so to give it to Victor’s brother is basically a kick in the teeth to Victor. Victor being given a commission basically means he’s being sent away.
It’s undoubtedly to show which son is the favourite and which one is clearly not, but I remain suspicious about their choice of that particular heirloom, because they could have made it any number of things, but they made it a freaking pocket watch. A show about fairytales and storybooks, where they’ve already shown us Wonderland, and they make a pocket watch a significant heirloom to one of the families. A family where we’ve seen one of the members jump between worlds. And they show it being handed to a guy dressed in white. I’m just sayin’, suspicious. 😉
Like, maybe, their grandfather, the original owner of the pocket watch, was also a soldier and wore that same white uniform. And he was a jumper like Jefferson, but his tool was the watch, instead of the hat, and because he was dressed in white, that’s why he became known as the White Rabbit. And maybe Viktor has heard tales about it, may even be old enough to have seen it being used at some point, even if it hasn’t been used in years, and that’s what his reaction to it is about when he gets kinda wide eyed all, “I remember,” when he sees it. (Clearly I think too much about this show, but God help me, it’s fun. 😆 )
@craxyfox wrote:
And I don’t see what was so creepy about Hook’s flirting 😕 I may be biased, but it was more funny than gross, because even though he was in pain he still manages to be his cheeky self with Emma 😆
Sure it would be a little creepy if he was a complete stranger to Emma and said those things, but these two are no strangers to one another, and no one seemed to have a problem over the sword sex joke! 😆Oh I saw people who thought the sword sex joke was totally gross and tasteless, so it doesn’t surprise me that people will be turned off by this as well. I personally thought his crack during the sword fight was hot, and it’s somewhat endearing that even when he’s beaten, broken and in a hospital bed, he’s still having a red hot go at flirting with her. Gotta give him points for persistence. 😆
