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@PJSparkles wrote:
So I was wondering if anyone had theories as to how Hook returned to the Enchanted Forest from Neverland. I am clueless but this point is eating at me. He got there with a bean and was determined to not return until he found a way to skin his croc. Did he learn about the dagger in Neverland? Did Tink or Peter know something? I kinda think Peter is Bae (and Neal). Maybe Peter/Bae told Hook about the weapon when he found out that his mother was killed by his father and that his father lied about where she had gone.
Yes, I’m on the Bae=Peter train, so it’d fit for me if that’s how Hook discovered that there was a weapon that could kill Rumple. In the scene with Belle, he didn’t seem to know exactly what that weapon was, but he could have had some altercation with Bae in Neverland where the kid accidentally let it slip that the Dark One could be killed, but then refused to give more info, so Hook set off to find it himself.
[adrotate group="5"]@TimeSpacer wrote:
I hadn’t thought of Snow, but I really like that idea, if they could explain the final entry which showed Charming putting Emma in the wardrobe.
Yes, that’s the thing, how many people could have known enough to include that story, complete with a picture of a wounded Charming putting Emma into the wardrobe? Blue would know if she flitted back at the last moment, to make sure Emma had got away in time, and saw it happen.
I suppose you could argue that Snow was there too, just after it happened. But if Snow wrote the book after the curse, that means she remembered on some level, but in SB she clearly had no idea about her former life, so that doesn’t add up for me.
@Gaultheria wrote:
Oh, I don’t think Aurora’s returned heart was really Cora’s or anyone else’s.
When you mentioned it in your previous post, I actually wondered if you might be onto something. What reason would Cora have for taking Aurora’s heart with her to SB? Unless she could still use it to spy on them across realms, I suppose. I could see Cora wanting to take her own heart with her to SB though. Not knowing if she’d ever be back in FTL again, why would she leave her heart there completely unguarded?
Was just posting in another thread, saying how I expect they plan to tell Mulan’s history at some point, and then this casting call popped into my head. Only about half of it would fit though. The defiance and no fear of soldiers would be Mulan-ish, but the future seeing isn’t anything we’ve seen an indication of in adultMulan, and it doesn’t specify that the kid be Asian, so it’s probably not her. Oh well, was a fun theory for 2 minutes before I talked myself out of it. 😆
Could be one of the child soldiers in the Ogre War. In which case she’d likely be someone Rumple met. Would we be due for another Rumple ep by then? Actually, scratch that, because 10 was below the recruiting age, and we don’t even know that they were recruiting kids at the time when Rumple went to war. Though I guess if she was just a POW and not also a soldier, her age wouldn’t exclude her being involved.
I mentioned in another thread the other day that Aurora, Mulan, Phillip, and potentially Lancelot, (there’s always been a question mark over if he’s actually dead or not), are likely the only four humans left in FTL now. That’s still not really enough people to rebuild and re-populate a world…a world that for all they know, no SBers will ever be coming back to again. So if I were them, I’d wanna find a way to SB where the rest of the people are. If they do happen to run into Lancelot, and they tell him all about Snow’s visit, he’d probably be inspired to be reunited with his old friends.
I imagine they’ve gotta keep the girls involved in the storyline somehow for a bit longer, assuming they plan to tell Mulan’s history. Given the character’s status as a Disney Princess, I doubt they’d have her on the show without showing their own spin on her story that everyone’s so familiar with.
The way I could see something like this playing out would be…
Cora takes Henry’s heart before they’re married, so she can force him to marry her, which explains why such a sweet, docile man ended up marrying such a horrible woman, (I’ve always been baffled as to how he ended up falling for her, but that would explain it). Cora goes to Wonderland, becomes QoH, and decides that she needs somewhere to stash her own heart for safekeeping. So she kidnaps her husband who has a vacant chest cavity, sticks her heart in him, then shrinks him, and locks him, and her heart, up in a box. Regina is obviously aware that her father has been kidnapped, but isn’t necessarily aware that he was then given her mother’s heart. That would mean that when Regina killed her father and tossed “his” heart into the fire, she essentially sacrificed both of her parents to enact the curse.Of course, then you’ve gotta wonder how Cora could still be alive if her heart got tossed in a fire, but, ya know, she’s freakin’ Cora QoH, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she had enough power to get around that somehow.
@Maiqu20 wrote:
I think that too.. I mean he didn’t want to be the cause of another mother separated from her son..
Yes, it may have been his way of making up for having taken Milah away from Bae. He’s seen how badly that situation can end, and he doesn’t want the same fate for Emma. I think he respects her a fair bit.
@craxyfox wrote:
I loved his ‘sliding sword’ joke,
Are you referring to when he had her pinned down and slowly slid his hook down her sword, because if so, then yes, yes I loved that too. Suggestive action much? 😉 😆
He knew that even if he lost that compass, he still had the bean, so all four of them would end up in SB. It’d be to his advantage if Emma thought she had bested him in that sword fight, because it’d lull her into a somewhat false sense of security for their future encounters.
It’d also be nice if he did have a moment where he thought he’d help her get back home to her son. After all, he does know the pain of being separated from someone you love.
@myril wrote:
Interesting, I found that speech believable because seemingly it was making so little sense (to me it made a lot of sense). Regina is emotionally so confused. It’s a love-hate relationship she has with her mother. Regina knew, that her mother still could make her do things, no matter how much she at the same time might hate her. Love is weakness in this case not because Regina cares in any positive, healthy sense about her mother, but Regina never stopped craving for her approval, her affection, that is the grip on her heart, Cora had, and Cora still has. Getting approval of your parents, as daughter especially of a mother is a strong motivator to do a lot of things you otherwise would even despise doing. Regina had her plans with the Dark Curse and she certainly didn’t want to be distracted by being tempted to please her mom in any way. Regina knew, she wasn’t free of that wish to please her as long as Cora was alive.
Very sure Regina believed Cora was dead, that was the moment she and Rumple were talking about in the episode before at the dinner, that she saw Cora’s dead body.
Well said, I completely agree.
It actually illustrates quite nicely how she was able to justify her dysfunctional relationship with Henry. If Regina still had a certain affection for Cora, even after everything she’d done, then it was fair enough for her to assume that Henry would have affection for her, even if he seemed miserable and lashed out at her and said he hated her.
@RumplesGirl wrote:
My BF came up with a theory that the heart may have been inside Henry Sr which is why Cora kidnapped him and she has yet to realize that Regina took Henry’s heart for the curse. he doesn’t think the heart was actually destroyed in the fire for the Curse. I think it’s a stretch but I promised him I’d pass it along.
I actually sorta love that idea! Kudos to your BF and his crackpot theory. 😉
