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@frumpybutsupersmart wrote:
Maybe she just didn’t want anyone reading the book to sympathise with Rumpel, like most of the audience did when they learned about his past. Seems like something she’d want, seeing as she’s his enemy.
Sounds like good reasoning to me. I’m sticking with the idea of it having been Blue who wrote the book after they got to SB.
The book had Emma’s story, with her going through the wardrobe. Therefore, it had to be written after the curse hit, and it had to be written by someone who had knowledge of that happening.
[adrotate group="5"]The wanted poster in Tallahassee spelled it with an I:
https://oncepodcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Neal-Cassidys-wanted-poster-Tallahassee-2×06.jpg
But the press releases where the character’s name was announced spelled it with an A:
https://oncepodcast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=1683&p=21375&hilit=neal+cassady#p21375@EvilQueen wrote:
ok, so:
2) i see, i missed it, never really linked the round table to King George, somehow. In that case, all I can think of is that Charming not so much went after King George’s kingdom but after the king himself, since he’s really been persistent with trying to make Charming’s life miserable. I believe his mother’s death would be the deciding factor and Charming would be fed up with constantly running away and it just had to be done.See, matchy, matchy, same table in the same room, (and Emma’s flower tattoo is one of the flowers from that family crest on the table, which they inherited)…
And yes, a desire to de-throne George for what he’s done against him personally is certainly motivating Charming to take him down. The talk of taking back the kingdom started before Charming’s mother had died, but George had threatened her life, so the only way she’d be safe is if he was dead. Of course, they also could have gone back to claim Snow’s kingdom as their own, and could have shacked MamaCharming up there with her own personal guard, but like I said in my previous post, George was gonna be easier to take down than Regina.3) but if that was the case, why would Henry be so so worried? He would simply fall asleep and see for himself. Also, wouldn’t he now be in danger trying to communicate to Charming? That would meant Charming’s actions even more stupid and pointless…in the sneak peek Regina and Rumple talk as if it's been a long time since Charming went under the spell and that they don't know if he delivered the message or not. That means Henry didn't have a chance to go back to that room and talk to Charming, otherwise they would've known. Even if they forbade him, Henry wouldn't be able to resist trying to talk to Charming…
It just doesn’t make sense – if Henry was going back there ANYWAY, why would Charming risk EVERYTHING just so that the boy wouldn’t have to talk to Aurora? If it was about Henry not going to the room at all, that would be an entirely different story but if he’s going to be there anyway, then what;s the point… 😕Because it saves him excess trauma if he doesn’t have to go there with the mission to pass on information. And yes, as you say, if Henry now fell asleep, and ran into Charming in the netherworld, he’d try to talk to him and probably get injured again. Charming didn’t consider that possibility when he went under though, because he didn’t expect to be staying under, he expected to kiss Snow and wake up. The way his plan was supposed to work, he’d only be knocked out for maybe an hour or so, just long enough to run into Snow and have a chat. I’d love it if Henry puts it together and realises he can go check on Charming by falling asleep himself, but who knows if they’ll fit that into the storyline.
@AntBee wrote:
@Marilou wrote:
and I read somewhere on tumblr that archie diesis it true? I could not find the source or anything else pointing to that.
It’s just speculation right now since the Sheriff who must not be named last year around the same time, people are speculating that they’ll kill off another important character around the middle of the season.
I would guess maybe Pinocchio though just because Eion Bailey now finding a new show that he’s going to be the lead on and being demoted from regular to recurring at the beginning of this season, but I think if they kill him off it would be closer to the end of this season so that he can try to help Neal explain to Emma what happened.
Although I’m not sure they would actually kill off any of Disney’s iconic characters, which is why I’m not sure that they’ll kill off Archie either because Jiminy Cricket is almost as iconic as Pinocchio.Good point, they may not be allowed to massacre the iconic Disney good guys. I reckon they’d have to keep August around for at least a little bit longer. He’s entangled in Emma and Neal’s story, so will be involved in their reconciliation somehow. And they still need to show his proper reunion with his father too.
David Anders just got cast in Arrow, but I dunno what his status is on that show. Blurbs I read made it sound like he’s gonna be their next big villain though, so I’m gonna guess it’s a recurring role. If they had plans to kill him off on Once though, it wouldn’t happen before the stuff with his brother is resolved.
@fairy dust wrote:
Ok…..I think that the title has something to do with DARTS. Cricket is a Dart game and a simplified version of Cricket is called Mickey Mouse.
Hopefully no one uses Archie as target practice.
@EvilQueen wrote:
1) King George not only needed A son but he needed someone mentally fit to be a king. Also, he probably would’ve wanted a boy that would resemble him (physically) at least a bit. All this definitely limited the possibilities – after all, how a king can expect any peasant kid to grow strong and intelligent? Then, if he really wanted to go into this, he would’ve had to do a “research” among the ‘potential parents’ and, however discrete that can be, people surely would notice if strangers started asking weird questions and then a child disappeared while the king miraculously conceived a heir? It would be every king’s worry that something, some time, would be discovered (whether it’s a deal or a kidnap) and a gossip would start, then his kingdom would fall apart or start an internal war. With Rumple’s deal, he avoided all that – his ‘son’ not only turned out to be a handsome, strong, smart and charming but also his real parents were bound by magic to never speak about it. Convenient!
Agreed, it was the most discrete and efficient way for George to go about it.
2) I think the only kingdom they fought for was Snow White’s when Evil Queen took over it – but even in this case, I don’t see how Snow would’ve had more rights to the kingdom than Regina, in the end she was a rightful Queen because she married Leopold (and it had its great sacrifice to it too!). They rebelled because EQ was, well, evil. Fair enough. But King George’s kingdom? Er, have they ever considered taking it over? What bit are you talking about, I think I must have missed something?
They end up living in George’s castle, use his table for their War Council, and adopt his family crest as their own. Also, we’ve seen George say to Charming in SB that she should have killed him when he had the chance. All of that amounts to them re-taking the kingdom that Charming is kinda sort heir to, even though he’d only been the kinda sorta heir for all of 5 minutes. If they have the choice of attempting to overthrow a mortal king or a magical queen, the former is obviously the more get-able goal. Once they achieve that, they no longer have to fear George, and have somewhere safe to live so they’re not constantly at the mercy of Regina.
3) This is what’s been bugging me too. Both Charming and Regina protested when Rumple said Henry will have to go back to the red room – but how exactly would they stop him? So far there has been nothing on how to prevent the boy going there while he’s asleep, Rumplestiltskin only gave him the necklace to CONTROL it, not to stop him from going there and now even that is useless as Charming has it. So I really hope they will explain how exactly they can protect Henry from coming back to the red room otherwise it would be pretty stupid of Charming to do what he did and 5 minutes later Henry would meet him there anyway. Also, now Charming’s trapped there, wouldn’t Henry protest if Regina and Mr Gold stopped him from going to the red room?
There’s another thread on here discussing this issue where I mentioned the same thing, but I believe it was the communication aspect of being in the room that caused Henry physical harm. If he falls asleep, sure he’ll go back to the room, and it’ll be scary, but as long as he’s not trying to communicate with someone against the room’s will, the room poses no actual physical threat to him. So Charming stepped into the role of communicator, to spare Henry the added trauma. Charming believed he’d go in, do the job, and come back out, so didn’t consider the problem of potentially leaving Henry and SB unguarded indefinitely.
They may be classicaly piratey traits, but for me at least, the gold coin and the rum called to mind specific and iconic Captain Jack moments, so I considered them little shoutouts. There’s no way they could have Captain Jack on this show, because no one else could ever play that role, but the character is a huge entity for Disney, so it’s expected they’d have nods to him, and it didn’t make Hook any less his own character IMO.
Well I don’t think they’re meant to be THE Mary and Joseph, because Emma isn’t THE Jesus, (that’d be a tad sacreligious). But Emma IS referred to as “The Saviour”, and they’ve called her mother Mary, so following that line of thinking, they might draw inspiration for her father’s name from the same place. Charming’s mother’s name was Ruth, who was a biblical figure, as was David, and James, so why not throw the name Joseph into the mix too.
I have no doubt that Hook is Once’s nod to Captain Jack Sparrow. His association with a magical compass, his way with the ladies, the way he savoured that gold coin in the Giant’s stash was reminiscent of Jack sneaking a coin of the cursed gold, and they even had a line where he grumbled about wasting rum, probably a nod to Jack’s, “But why is the rum gone?!”
I’d be very surprised if Hook doesn’t have some connection to Davy Jones, being that they share a surname. Either Davy is his father, or perhaps Hook is Davy Jones himself. Either way, a connection to Davy Jones means a connection to hearts in boxes if they’re drawing inspiration from the PotC movies, so that could end up being a link to how Hook learned to take hearts.
Regarding Cora and the umbrella, I figured that’s just because it was raining that day, and a lady like Cora wouldn’t be standing around getting drenched, and practically speaking, they didn’t want her costume getting wet. In the promo she seems to be summoning a geyser, which she wouldn't be doing if she was scared of water.
That’s true! For some reason it had never clicked for me before that MM’s name was fittingly Mary, mother of the Saviour. I’m not thinking of her as MM at all any more, she’s pure Snow now. Anyway, considering they have already gone there with Mary, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if David was really Joseph.
