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There was an ep summary a while back that said something along the lines of them rigging the portal to kill anyone who comes through it. That made me think that they didn’t much care if Snow and Emma got caught in the crossfire, they just wanted to stop Cora at all costs.
[adrotate group="5"]@Lil’Red wrote:
Least: Realizing that Hook took Aurora’s heart and then having it confirmed. Just…wow! As morally gray as I expected this character to be, wouldn’t have guessed him capable of pulling out someone’s heart – wonder how conflicting it was, if he thought about Milha.. 😕
Bet he’s done that trick more than once. He’d had to have got in some practice to ensure he could do it right when he does it to Rumple. 😉 Maybe that’s how Hook and Cora met, when he was trying to track down someone who could show him how to do that trick?
@AntBee wrote:
I’m still prepared for this theory to turn out to be wrong and really thought it was going that way with the spoilers that were coming out in the past few weeks, but after tonight’s episode, I’m feeling a bit more confident in it not as highly as before, but I feel like something is definitely up with the happy reunion especially since I would think that Charming won’t be revived until Snow is back in town and kisses him. So if he’s at the reunion right after Emma and Snow land in Storybrooke without doing anything in between it seems fishy.
This is what’s got me confused too. On the one hand, I figured that if they couldn’t kiss in the netherworld, then it MUST be Snow who comes back to kiss him in SB. But then, like you say, that reunion pic of them walking down the street doesn’t fit, because it seems to be immediately after they arrive, but Charming’s there walking down the street. So if that scene in the street actually happens for real, not just in a dream, then Charming would have to be woken before they get back. But he doesn’t seem to be at the well in the half a second we see if that scene in the promo, and you’d think he would be if he was awake. Mind you, no one else from that pic in the street is at the well either. Maybe they’ll all show up at the last moment, after what we’ve seen in the promo happens? I’m all confuzzled and need to see how it’s all gonna fit together. I need more clues. Is it next week yet? How about now? NOW?! 😛
Isn’t it a traditional Snow White trait? Except she’s typically seen communing with sweet little bluebirds as opposed to nasty crows. And that’s why we saw her with the bluebird on the balcony when she was preggo in the pilot. Or am I making stuff up? Must google….
http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Forest_Animals_(Snow_White_and_the_Seven_Dwarfs)
The Forest Animals are characters and minor protagonists in Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
The only human character who seems able to speak to them is Snow White, whom they make it their priority to protect and help throughout the film. Deer, chipmunks, birds and squirrels inhabit the forest; however, the most significant of the forest fauna is a turtle, who is always a step behind the other animals. The animals are primary used to justify many of Snow White’s lines; rather than talking to herself, she is adressing her animal friends. Like Cinderella, Princess Aurora and, to a certain extent, Belle and Jasmine, Snow White is deprived of contact with the outside world and finds friendship in the animals around her.
@Clockwatcher wrote:
We saw Charming break through the terrifying mirror room to the fire room below. Does this mean that the sleeping curse has different levels, like sleep, scientifically, has different levels?
Rumple said that the fire room was only where someone went after they’d been awoken from the curse, and Charming would have to figure out how to get there. The room of mirrors is where you go when you’re actually under the sleeping curse. The room of fire is just an after effect that you get when you go back to sleep after the curse has been broken. I guess it could be likened to the different levels of sleep. We had Snow saying that she had to be sleeping in a particular way in order to get back to that room, she couldn’t just drift off naturally.
Why can’t you die in a sleeping curse, if it is only another world? Yes, your soul travels there, not your physical body. But you can get burned, right?
Which brings me to my next question, how could Henry and Aurora get burned if they’re “not really there??”You can’t get burned when you’re under the actual curse, because you’re not in the fire room then, you’re in the mirror room. You could wander through a room of mirrors for an eternity without any risk of dying.
The fact that the room physically burns people made me think it was a contradiction when Charming and Snow couldn’t touch. If the flames can physically touch you, then why can’t another person? Does not compute. I guess they can get around that by saying that the flames are actually part of the room, so they can have a physical effect, but other people there are their own separate entity, so they can’t touch. Gotta be some logistical loophole so they could create that special moment of Snowing angst. 😉
The bit in Into The Deep where Hook is letting Aurora go, I swear it sounded like he told her to give “Em” a message. I could have heard it wrong, or maybe he just didn’t say the “ma” on the end clearly enough but it was still technically there, but anyway, the way I heard it was like he’d given her a little nickname, and I thought of you shippers. 😉
@EvilQueen wrote:
I know, Hannah, I was thinking that too, I don’t want Henry to turn back on Regina but he’s sort of the same kind of douche as Charming – he will just jump into black and white conclusions and will not even try to understand…
Earlier this season, Henry asked Emma to make sure his mother didn’t die. Emma honoured that wish, even though she’s got no love for Regina. Now Regina is seemingly rather determined to go ahead with something that will likely kill Henry’s other mother, even though she knows how that would break Henry’s heart if anything happened to Emma, and he’s screaming and begging her not to do it. But Henry’s the douche? OK.
@Hannah97 wrote:
Oh, and I feel I need to raise this question, because it’s been bugging me ever since I first saw the promo. Was that really Regina in the flashbacks with Hook, or was it Cora in disguise? I know I’m probably the only one thinking this, but something just seemed a little bit off about her and she seemed to be acting more like Cora than herself, but I don’t know. It’s been a while since we’ve seen Regina in full Evil Queen mode, maybe I just need a refresher.
Good thinking. I wonder if this might be a flashback to when they kidnapped Henry Sr and took him to Wonderland. Maybe Cora disguised herself as Regina to bait a trap.
@obisgirl wrote:
most likely, I’m thinking that Jamie’s return will coincide with a fairytale flashback of Snow and James taking back the kingdom and the huntsman will help them.
When Snow pulls out the whistle he made for her and calls for help, (I hope).
@EvilQueen wrote:
@Phee wrote:
If she, Neal and baby Henry were happily living free in Tallahassee, then the inhabitants of SB were stuck and Emma wouldn’t have discovered who she really is or found her parents.
Oh, and why couldn’t Neal just stay with them and bring Emma to SB himself? Obiviously he believed August so why did have to just leave rather than work with August on trying to convince Emma to believe?
If they ended up with a happy life, living together, with their kid, why would Neal risk losing that by trying to convince her of the curse and that she had to go to SB to break it? First of all, that would be a potentially dangerous mission, that could put all three of their lives at risk, so if they were happy and safe, why risk that? Also, if she didn’t believe, and he knew she likely wouldn’t because the whole thing sounds nuts, then that would cause friction between them, possibly causing him to lose her.
Also, if we go with the assumption that he’s Bae, he may not necessarily want to go to SB to deal with his father again, knowing it’d likely just lead to even more heartbreak for him. If he’s not Bae, then does he have enough of an emotional attachment to the SB residents to risk his own stable life for their sake?
Considering all of those points, would he absolutely positively make sure Emma got there? Doubtful IMO.
Whatever August showed him, convinced him that Emma’s task was something that had to be done. It also convinced him that the only way it would definitely happen is if he removed himself from the equation. He didn’t just walk away because August told him to. He walked away because he believed it’s what had to be done.
@craxyfox wrote:
either way it was not part of her destiny.
Yeah, that’s basically what it comes down to. She wasn’t able to have her happily ever after at that point in her life, (meaning she didn’t really escape the curse after all), because if she’d got that, then she wouldn’t have become the person she needed to be, and wouldn’t have been in the right place at the right time to break the curse. If she, Neal and baby Henry were happily living free in Tallahassee, then the inhabitants of SB were stuck and Emma wouldn’t have discovered who she really is or found her parents. Would that really have been a preferable situation? August’s actions may have set Emma up for some tough times, but that was the path she had to take. It’s not like he just went to screw up her life because he had nothing better to do. His actions had a purpose, and the hate he gets for having broken them up is just shoot the messenger stuff IMO.
