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I may have read too much into this, but the whole bit with Henry screwing up, and it resulting in his child being forcibly removed from their mother, reminded me of Neal’s mistakes and Emma having to give up baby Henry. In this ep, when Henry was all, “I’m just a guy who screwed up, and I’m tryna fix it,” it just made me feel some sorta way…kinda like I wanted to burst into tears because he was reminding me of his dad.
[adrotate group="5"]Honestly, when she jumped through that portal to go back to SB, I felt a weight lift off me. It’s been rough to watch Emma for the last few seasons, and now I don’t have to dread anymore what dumb thing they gonna have her say or do or endure next, so I’m relieved that she’s off the show.
She really contributed nothing to this ep. I couldn’t even get into the moments of her and Henry because I was so distracted by the lack of explanation for their age difference. Have they seen each other at all since he left SB? If yes then it should have been mentioned that they’ve stayed in touch. If not, if they haven’t seen each other in YEARS, then there just wasn’t enough emotion involved in their brief meeting in this ep.
Her appearance was just half baked and empty. But I’m not gonna dwell on it, because I can now officially move on from Emma Swan.
Agreed with those suggesting Rapunzel.
His daughter was locked up by a witch, but he was still able to visit her daily. Rapunzel in her tower could still have visitors, they just had to climb up her hair.
WishHook was cursed so he couldn’t see his daughter any more. If the curse is what made him fat, then he could no longer climb up her hair.
The chess piece is a representation of the tower that his daughter was locked up in.
The fandom have taken to interpreting traits in Hook as being traits in Flynn Rider in the past, and this would be a play on that.
The whole multiple versions of stories thing doesn’t really compute logically in my head. But this show has made so little sense for so long that I’m able to mostly brush it off now.
I did appreciate Jeremy’s rant about it in the podcast though, because he wasn’t wrong. This show was originally supposed to be how there are these fairytale characters in well known stories, and SURPRISE all those retellings of any given fairytale are based on THESE SPECIFIC REAL PEOPLE, and so here’s how the original story actually played out. Like the analogy he made, that even if Bollywood made a movie about Napoleon, it’d still just be a retelling of the story of that French guy, even though all the actors are Indian. So there suddenly being multiple different ORIGINAL versions of these characters, just doesn’t make sense with the original premise and core mythology of the show.
But then I’m like…it didn’t even 100% make sense in the beginning of the show anyway, because those stories have been around for centuries but they portrayed the EF as running parallel in time to our world. So basically, it just makes my head hurt too much to try and rationalise the logic of it all, and I’m at a point where I’m jut throwing my hands in the air in defeat and being all OK fine, Show, there are multiple Cinderellas and this version that Henry’s a part of it happening in current time. It makes no sense, but OK fine.
I’m guessing it wasn’t her who cast the curse. It’ll be a plot twist. Someone we didn’t expect.
Drizella is my bet. She got a sniff of how powerful magic can be when she watched her mother *poof* the fairy godmother. And it was Drizella who ripped the book away from Lucy and wanted it destroyed.
I smell a Jim and Sophia romance coming. I’m down for it (good cop and a mobster’s daughter?!) but please let Sophia be more interesting than Lee.
Well my suspicion is that Falcone’s mystery illness that’s slowly killing him is actually Sofia slowly poisoning him, so that she can take over the family business once he’s gone. That would make her interesting. (And it’d also doom any relationship she has with Jim, but I don’t care, I’m still shipping it regardless. :-P)
It’s not my style to blast actors/actresses for their looks, but Lady Tremaine looked like she’d had one too many plastic surgeries to deliver more than one facial expression.
I never watched Burn Notice, haven’t seen Gabrielle Anwar in anything for years. So to me, she’s the fresh faced young lady that Al Pacino danced a tango with in that wonderful scene in Scent of a Woman. And she’s also Queen Anne from the remake of Three Musketeers which came out a year or so later, (which wasn’t a masterpiece, but at that point in time I was whole heartedly head over heels in love with Chris O’Donnell, so I saw that movie a stupid amount of times). And when I started seeing pics of her for the first time in years when she started doing OUAT…let’s just say that it wasn’t the face I remembered, and it kinda bummed me out.
And now it drives her mad that all anyone thinks of when they hear who she is is that one Alice in Wonderland story, which isn’t even technically her story.
Yup, I think you’ve nailed it.
It’s why she’s so snappy with Henry about meddling in a story that isn’t his own. She’s been there done that, and the repercussions are a never ending annoyance to her. So she’s trying to be a good great-aunt (or whatever relation it would make her) by telling Henry to bugger off and not insert himself into Cinderella’s story.
Good point. Does the math add up though?
It’s been over a decade since Henry left SB, but other members of his family still look the same. He and Cinderella have a daughter who’s about 10, but they look like they haven’t aged a day since they met.
Isn’t AdultGideon coming back in some as yet unknown capacity? If so, then it stands to reason that we could see his slightly younger sister as the age Alice is, and that’s the point in time that she gets yanked into the story we’re seeing.
If there’s one thing about these writers that I still have faith in, it’s that they can come up with some nonsense handwavey reason for any character to be any age to serve whatever story because reasons.
I think she’s definitely Alice from alice In Wonderland. Given her reaction when Henry asked her that, it seems she gets that response a lot when she tells people who she is. And she’s definitely been to wonderland since she said she had one trip there and now that’s all she’s known for.
Oh I still think she’s been to Wonderland even if she’s RumBelle’s kid. Like, I imagine Belle reading Alice in Wonderland to her little Alice, and telling her how much she loves the story, and that’s why she named her Alice, after the girl in the story, and Belle would also talk about her own dreams of exploring different worlds, and how it never really ended up happening like she’d hoped. And all of that makes little Alice Stiltskin decide to take off to Wonderland to see it for herself and have an adventure in a faraway land at some point. And now it drives her mad that all anyone thinks of when they hear who she is is that one Alice in Wonderland story, which isn’t even technically her story.
