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Participant@SandraLynn wrote:
Gah! Why oh why can’t I stay away from posts with the word “spoiler” in them? I always end up regretting it but I still click the link every time.
I used to think the same way, then just gave in to being completely spoiled. Resistance is futile. 😆
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Participant@Naomi wrote:
Yeah, I was wondering if they would go there. I’m not sure how I would feel about a twist, along the lines of the-outside-world-discovers-Storybrooke. If it’s just one or two characters, I could maybe see it working (for example, if the writer of the book turned out to be “real-world” character, or if Henry’s father turned out to be a “real-world” character). Otherwise, I think it would make the show too bloated.
Yes, that’s a good word for it, “bloated”. If they did something like this, I wouldn’t want it to mean that suddenly anyone and everyone from outside would be bombarding the town, so it’d have to only be a select someone, so it didn’t get out of hand.
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All the drama between the characters in Storybrooke would probably seem less important if the real world was bearing down on them.
Or it might give SB a bigger sense of urgency to go back to FTL. They could start worrying about what might happen if the outside world started noticing a town that no one knew existed, and someone came in to investigate and saw something that they shouldn’t have.
That’s what I was thinking, yeah. If there were one person who was a real world character, with the desire to expose SB to the world in the hopes of destroying their magical haven, then that could mean the SB inhabitants would all have to band together. I know there’s an understanding between the good guys and the bad guys right now, but if there was an outside threat, the good guys may be forced to employ some of the tactics of the bad guys in order to protect the whole town, which could be an interesting dynamic.
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Participant@Dorothy wrote:
Or maybe the memory loss works both ways?
So he’d forget his non-FTL life, only remember being Bae, not Neal, only remember Rumple, not Emma?
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ParticipantI could see him being Pan, the look would fit. But “a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend,” doesn’t really sound like Pan to me, though I suppose a darker side of the character may have developed after being stuck in our world.
If we’re to assume that Ethan’s character comes from outside SB and is a storybook character, then an adult Pan is an obvious choice.
Could Barrett potentially be from our world but NOT a storybook character? Like, some sort of paranormal hunter type, who senses there’s something going on in that area and comes to try and stop it? Maybe someone who’s been keeping an eye on Neal and follows him there? Dunno that they’d consider introducing unrelated real world people at this stage of the game, (or ever) though, so that may be too far fetched of a theory. Just got to wondering about it because it’s not like Pan would have a wildly different “way of life” or beliefs to the inhabitants of SB, whereas someone from our world who thinks magic is evil would. Unless that’s relating to Pan having defended his magical way of life while being stuck in our world.
@Naomi wrote:
How old was Peter in the story?
Wikipedia sez…
The notion of a boy who would never grow up was based on J. M. Barrie’s older brother who died in an ice-skating accident the day before he turned 14, and thus always stayed a young boy in his mother’s mind.[2] The “boy who wouldn’t grow up” has appeared at a variety of ages. In his original appearance in The Little White Bird he was only seven days old. Although his age is not stated in Barrie’s later play and novel, his characterization is clearly years older. The book states that he has all of his baby teeth, and Barrie’s intended model for the statue of Peter that was erected in Kensington Gardens was a set of photos of Michael Llewelyn Davies taken at the age of six. Early illustrations of the character generally appeared to be that age or perhaps a few years older. In the 1953 Disney adaptation and its 2002 sequel, Peter appears to be in late childhood, between 10 and 13 years old. (The actor who provided the voice in 1953 was 15-year-old Bobby Driscoll.) In the 2003 film, Jeremy Sumpter was 13 at the time filming started; by the end of filming he was 14 and had grown several inches taller. In the movie Hook, Peter is said to have left Neverland many years earlier, forsaking his eternal youth and ageing normally. When remembering his buried past, Peter is shown as a baby, and little boy, and also a near-teenager, suggesting that the ageing process does not entirely stop in Neverland until puberty or just before, or that Peter aged a little bit every time he left Neverland to come to the real world. When Peter says, “I remember you being a lot bigger,” in the final duel, Hook answers, “to a 10-year-old I’m huge.” He is portrayed by Robin Williams, who turned 40 during production of the film.
…so they could make him anything up to an early teen before he stayed in our world and aged to mid 30s.
Since we know he can traverse between Neverland and our world, he could have been in our world when the curse hit. Maybe that prevented him from going back.
Cool idea, that’d make sense.
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ParticipantFor what it’s worth, Ethan Embry is the right age for the Barrett casting call…
A major recurring guest star role with an option for next season is being cast. A character named Barrett. He’s in his 30s, kind and smart, but also has a very dark side and has beliefs and a way of life that he will fight fiercely to defend.
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ParticipantDunno why I’ve never noticed it before reading Naomi’s last post, but Neal and Bael do look awfully similar, don’t they?
I’d imagine that if he’s Bae, he’d probably try to stay out of Rumple’s way right after getting into town. He’d probably want to observe how he’s acting first, to see if he’s worthy of forgiveness yet.
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ParticipantThe main costume anomaly with both characters is specifically the collars on their jackets, and how closely they match the collars of Cora and Hook. Just seems far too coincidental to me, so I’m thinking it’s an intentional hint.

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ParticipantI’ve always been more into the idea that Peter Pan was Henry’s father, as opposed to Bae being Henry’s father. But then, I’ve also suspected since the moment he went through the bean hole that Bae might end up being Peter Pan. So I can quite easily imagine those 3 personas tying together quite nicely to form 1 character on the show, (especially now that we know Rumple has a history with Hook). Am trying not to consider any theory on Bae or Henry’s father as being definite though, because this is the sort of major character and plot point that would seriously bug me if I had my heart set on it being one thing, and it turned out to be something different. I’m just trusting that whatever K&H have in mind in this particular case, it’ll be awesome.
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ParticipantAgreed. Even if he is both, I doubt they’d resolve BOTH of those points in the same ep. The Bae reveal deserves its own centric ep, not a side mention in an Emma ep.
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ParticipantPeople have wanted Bae to be Henry’s father ever since the first time we ever saw Bae. So safe to say, a fair chunk of the fandom has become emotionally invested in that particular theory.
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