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Loved this little detail that they included! 😀

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Oh, and if Cora as the miller’s daughter married King George, and after the deal with Rumple and loss of Regina drank the potion mentioned, so as to keep Rumple from taking any other children she might have (who knows what the deal was exactly in our story), it would be interesting to consider that Regina may actually be King George’s daughter, and he thinks he is childless.

Which, in a way, would make Regina and Charming kinda, sorta, almost siblings. Yikes. LOL

We know that Cora met Rumple before she met Henry Sr, because he said so in “We Are Both.” We don’t know exactly how corrupted Cora was at that point though. Henry Sr seems so lovely and passive, I’m baffled as to how he ended up married to a monster like Cora. So I’d always figured that they must have met and married before she lost the plot, or at least before he was aware that she’d lost the plot, but now it’s sounding like maybe that’s not the case. Maybe a newly pregnant Cora just needed a way out of her marriage to George and her deal with Rumple, and Henry Sr happened to be the unlucky bugger who came along at the wrong time and got trapped in her scheme.

Maybe the only way Cora could keep Rumple from taking Regina was by saying that she wasn’t the child of the King, and the deal was that Rumple would get the first born of Cora and the King. So Cora recruited Henry Sr to be the stand in, to say they were having an affair and he was the baby’s father.

Glitch is, wouldn’t Rumple have been able to tell she was lying, and as such, wouldn’t have let her out of the deal that easily?

Also, if Cora did then go on to have a child which was supposedly Henry’s, then what’s the deal with this poison, and why would George have used it on Snow if it clearly hadn’t really worked on Cora?

Anyway, if Cora IS George’s lost wife, I’d say it’s guaranteed that Cora will end up back in SB. And there must be more coming for George in SB, or they wouldn’t have shown him at the end of “Lady of the Lake.”

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@slurpeez108 wrote:

I don’t recall the spoiler about Regina trying to turn someone we’ve always thought trustworthy. I do, however, recall a spoiler about someone we think we trust betraying his or her own kind. There was a lot of speculation that it could be the Blue Fairy.

Yes, that’s the one I was thinking of, just didn’t remember it quite correctly. My brain is on spoiler and speculation overload these days. 😆

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@Faux Pax wrote:

I wonder if they’ll make the compass look like a nod to the one of of Pirates of the caribbean.

I just posted this in another thread, but it fits here too…

This magical compass that Hook and Emma are gonna go looking for up the beanstalk, perhaps that belonged to Bae/Peter/Jack, and it’s how he could navigate back and forth between our world and Neverland…

At some point, he had the altercation with the Giant, where Bae/Peter/Jack stole from him, so perhaps the Giant stole his compass in return, or maybe Bae/Peter/Jack just dropped it when he was busy stealing a goose that lays a golden egg…

Bae/Peter/Jack managed to get back to our world one final time, where he stayed, safe from the angry Giant, who had no idea what he had in that compass, so never followed him, (or perhaps the Giant ends up dead). In our world, Bae/Peter/Jack knew he’d be safer, so he stayed, grew up, and met Emma…

Of course, this theory assumes that the beanstalk is probably in Neverland, not FTL, and we’ve been assuming that Hook and Emma are in FTL when they find the beanstalk, not Neverland, so there are some issues. I like the idea that this magical compass is how Peter Pan navigated between worlds though, I mean, why else would Hook and Emma be after it if it didn’t navigate between worlds. And if it was something Peter Pan used, and if Bae was Peter Pan and Jack, then that could explain how Hook becomes involved with the story with the beanstalk.

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@Lil’Red wrote:

[But August is wooden again – would he be able to move around, unnoticed, in New York?

Maybe not. Emma couldn’t see his wooden leg when he first showed her so I would imagine that everyone apart from Bae (assuming he’s the mystery man) and possibly younger kids would see him normally.

Good point. Maybe he could walk around in our world unnoticed after all.

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@manajordan wrote:

I’m excited to see the addition of Neverland in the story arc. Characters in the Peter Pan story had the ability to travel between our world and Neverland, second star to the right and straight on til morning. It will be interesting to see if we eventually are introduced to Wendy, John and Michael perhaps in our own world. Neverland might also be a conduit for Emma and Snow to get back to Storybrook.

I just had a new thought after reading this, and it’s got me back on the Bae = Peter Pan train. Also, it ties into Bae being Jack…

This magical compass that Hook and Emma are gonna go looking for up the beanstalk, perhaps that belonged to Bae/Peter/Jack, and it’s how he could navigate back and forth between our world and Neverland…

At some point, he had the altercation with the Giant, where Bae/Peter/Jack stole from him, so perhaps the Giant stole his compass in return, or maybe Bae/Peter/Jack just dropped it when he was busy stealing a goose that lays a golden egg…

Bae/Peter/Jack managed to get back to our world one final time, where he stayed, safe from the angry Giant, who had no idea what he had in that compass, so never followed him, (or perhaps the Giant ends up dead). In our world, Bae/Peter/Jack knew he’d be safer, so he stayed, grew up, and met Emma…

Of course, this theory assumes that the beanstalk is probably in Neverland, not FTL, and we’ve been assuming that Hook and Emma are in FTL when they find the beanstalk, not Neverland, so there are some issues. I like the idea that this magical compass is how Peter Pan navigated between worlds though, I mean, why else would Hook and Emma be after it if it didn’t navigate between worlds. And if it was something Peter Pan used, and if Bae was Peter Pan and Jack, then that could explain how Hook becomes involved with the story with the beanstalk.

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@PriceofMagic wrote:

I think Emma was the main character in season 1 because she was the saviour and the point of season 1 was for her to break the curse. The audience needed to see her go on the journey of non-believer to believer. She was also a way to introduce the storybrooke counterparts to the audience.

Now that the audience knows who the characters are and have grown attached to them, Emma is no longer required as an introduction device. In season 1, Mr Gold was introduced through Emma then Moe French was introduced through Mr Gold.

Agreed. The plot of the show changed drastically in the season 1 finale. With the evolution of the storyline – which weaves together the stories, both past and present, of several very significant characters – the way the story is told will also evolve. It’s unavoidable, and perfectly understandable IMO.

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I haven’t seen ep3 yet, but had to go ahead and watch the promo for next week. Holy crap this ep is gonna be EPIC!!!! 😮 😀

@daybreak_fairy wrote:

I think he said “how one charming swashbuckler …”
swashbuckler = A reckless impetuous irresponsible person

Yep that’s what he said, “How one charming swashbuckler…became one of the greatest villains of all time.”

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@maddenily inconsistent wrote:

I bet he is both Frankenstein and the wizard of oz.

The wizard of oz does give a brain and a heart. That we know of.

Now there’s an intriguing concept! When his business of reanimating the dead went awry, maybe he fled in shame and/or fear and ended up living behind the curtain in Oz. And he still couldn’t resist helping out folks in need of missing body parts, should the need arise.

Would that mashup mean that Dr Frank Oz is also Yoda? 😉

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Yep, he’s played by Jarod Joseph, who is in that guest stars list in the first post, so he’s definitely gonna be involved in Red’s story in some way. Even though he’s only been seen briefly a couple of times, that’s been enough to get fans interested in who he is, so people are invested in him enough that it’d have an impact if he died, without them having to kill off someone major.

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Could be Billy? Would make for some angsty deja vu if another guy who Red knows ends up dead, and she’s the main suspect. She’d probably believe she’d done it, given what happened with Peter.

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