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ParticipantThat bit where Snow says, “Lancelot, of the Round Table,” and he replies, “Not any more,” hasn’t been in previous trailers, has it? Don’t think I’ve seen it before. That rules out Charming and Snow being Arthur and Gwen. Thank God!
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ParticipantI do hope that Red turns wolf in SB, but hope it’ll end up being someone else who commits the murder.
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ParticipantWell Hook is just about the last person I’d ever have guessed would be scrambling up a beanstalk. Can’t wait to see how this plays out.
Safe to assume that the “fellow thief” will be in Emma’s real world flashbacks? Played by MRJ? AKA Jack? AKA Bae?
YAY Eion! Wonder if that means August is human again, or if it’ll just be his voice for the man-puppet?
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Participant@obisgirl wrote:
I can’t believe this hasn’t been talked about. The boundary spell Cora used to keep Regina from leaving (she can’t leave unless King Leopold is with her), is that the same boundary spell that was used on Storybrooke? If anyone tried to leave Storybrooke during the curse, something bad would happen (just before they hit the boundary of the town), and now that the curse is broken, the residents still can’t leave. If they do, they loose their fairytale memory.
It could certainly be a variation of that spell. What we saw with the tree branches wrapping around the person seems to be a specific boundary spell, because we saw Regina do exactly the same thing to Henry that Cora had done to her, but we didn’t see the same thing happen whenever someone tried to leave town.
We know from last season Rumpelstiltskin created the Dark Curse and he knew that if anyone tried to leave, something bad would happen but I still don’t get how he couldn’t know if you tried to leave now that the curse is broken, something bad would still happen?
I think that he was so fixated on leaving to find Bae, that he just didn’t consider this new problem developing. He probably figured that once the spell was broken, that was it, and he’d be free to leave.
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When Rumpel brought magic to SB, I think the price he paid was being stuck there.
Because, say it with me kids, “ALL magic comes with a price.”
@PriceofMagic wrote:
Ironically, even without their fairytale memories, most of the characters wouldn’t leave Storybrooke anyway because that’s where their homes are. The moment anyone crosses the line and loses the memories, they’re just going to turn round and go home.
Good point!
@obisgirl wrote:
It’s especially confusing after King Leopold’s death, Regina can leave the castle. I guess she could have found a way to break the boundary spell Cora made?
Once she had her own powers, I’m sure she could have figured out a way around it. But I’m guessing that when Cora disappeared through the looking glass, any spells she’d cast in FTL lost their oomph.
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Participant@HMVerhagen wrote:
Also, I believe Jefferson’s hat never worked in Hat Trick. If you watch closely, one of Jefferson’s basement windows is open behind Emma and her mom while they are talking outside. He probably crawled in because he wanted to escape…and because he want Emma to think that the hat took him somewhere else. If Emma did believe in the magic of the hat, she would know that he was the Mad Hatter, and that the curse was real.
Yeah, I’ve never believed that the hat Emma made worked either. You need more than half a second and a tumbling hat to whip up a portal. From that we’ve seen, it’s gotta be sitting flat and be spun by the right person in the right way, then there’s a purple, twisty, smoky vortex that fills the whole area around you before it sucks you in. We saw none of that when he fell out the window, so I think he just landed and scrambled in the lower window.
Also, if he DID fall through the hat, and DID know that it worked, we would have seen him hunting down Emma and the hat after that ep, so he could use it again. But we never saw that.
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Participant@HMVerhagen wrote:
My guess? Regina went to Wonderland and pulled Cora and Jefferson out, and left everyone else there. Maybe she was successful in getting Jefferson to Storybrooke, but her mother somehow got to the area of Fairy Tale Land that wasn’t affected by the curse.
I think that Cora got back to FTL by her own scheming, somehow. Just can’t see Regina wanting to bring her back, especially if Cora stole Papa Mills, and then Regina had to go back to get him. Regina wouldn’t want Cora anywhere in the world where she and her father were.
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I thought the same thing for Jefferson’s wife.
Part of me really hopes that she is Dorothy from the Wizard of Oz, and that she jumped into his hat when the twister came for her. Since Oz was a dream in the original movie, they would have to find a way for Dorothy to survive being dropped hundreds of feet without dying. The hat would explain things.
I’ve instantly fallen in love with the theory of Jefferson’s wife being Dorothy, that’s a really cool idea! Another thought on this possibility…maybe she accidentally got sucked into one of the “twisters” that’s created when his hat was activated, and for some reason he couldn’t follow or find her, so he gave the job up.
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ParticipantWe don’t know what sort of inflection Jennifer used and if she said it in a way that warrants the quotes, but what she said does suggest that Lancelot possibly fought beside Charming, which could potentially make him Arthur.
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Participant@Marilou wrote:
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….Portland? Huh, of all the locations linked to Emma and her backstory – Portland is a surprise. 😀
not so much when you watched lost. Portland was where the Dharma initiative and eventually the “others” were based on the mainland.
I swear, if I see a Dharma logo anywhere in any episode, I’m gonna lose my mind.
What’s Emma’s last name again? Oh, that’s right, dun dun duuuuuunnnnnn…

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Participant@TheGoldenKey wrote:
@Midnight Dreary wrote:
The fact that Rumpel is so intimately tied to the Neverland Storyline makes me think that the Peter Pan theory might ultimately turn out to be true. 😉 But the presence of the man in New York is causing me to doubt that theory. But it is definitely possible that he simply grew up.
I believe he did grow up. Peter had the ability to come and go from Neverland. I believe he came, saw Emma and stayed. Similar to what happened with Moria in Hook. I’ve posted about this, on another thread, and won’t get into it here again. However, one thing is standing out crystal clear for me. In the story, Peter gets Wendy so she can be a mother to the Lost Boys. Bae lost his mother and to Hook no less. Makes absolute sense that he tries to replace her. Or he tries to avenge her. There are just too many connections to Bae’s story and Peter Pan’s story.
Man, this season keeps continuing to blow me away!
Right after the beanhole incident, I convinced myself that Bae was totally gonna become Peter Pan. Then I wondered if they’d make him Peter Pan AND Henry’s father, or would that be overkill? But now seeing little Bae in photos with big, bag, smug Killian partying with his mother, that would certainly be the perfect setup for the future Peter/Hook grudge story.
How about…Bae went down the beanhole to Neverland. Maybe his mother was still there, if she’d run off with Killian, so the bean sent him to where his mother was because his father was no good for him. Then Rumple, in his search for Bae, discovers that he’d gone to Neverland, so finds a way there. Once he arrives, he discovers that Bae/Peter has since left, (remaining in our world where he grew up and hooked up with Emma for baby making), but Killian is still there. Rumple’s not in a good mood, being that he’d hoped to find his son and instead finds the man who stole his wife, and during one of their altercations, Killian loses a hand and thereafter becomes Hook. Then Rumple returns to FTL and goes back to square one, trying to find a way to the world Bae/Peter went to when he left Neverland, which ultimately leads him to our world.
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And thank God Belle is finally making friends. I’ve been hoping for a friendship with Red, and after looking at these photos, I feel like my prayers have been answered. 😀
As I posted in another thread, is Red befriending Belle out of genuine friendship or is she doing it so that the side of good has a way to keep an eye on Rumple? All anyone would know of Belle is that she is Rumple’s girlfriend and, considering Rumple’s reputation, they wouldn’t really trust her. Perhaps this could be what leads to a darker Belle, if she thinks the only person she can trust is Rumple.
Yeah I’m wondering about that too. Obviously, if Belle was gonna have any girlfriends, Red is a good candidate, simply because they’re similar in age. But given that Red is VP of Team Charming now that Snow’s not around, it’d be sort of odd if she was all buddy buddy with the girlfriend of the enemy, so I doubt this would be a straightforward friendship.
@Marilou wrote:
fangirl moment; holy schmuck, can we get more sweaty/muscular Josh Dallas?
COSIGN!! 😉
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