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@slurpeez108 wrote:
First official episode still of “Killian Jones” aka Captain Hook. 🙂Swooning will commence in 5…4…3…2…*swoooooooon* 😉
[adrotate group="5"]I’m sure they had it planned all along that he’d be a regular. Assuming they intend to introduce other Neverland characters in the future, it’d make sense for Hook to still be around so we can see his relationships with them, as well as developing him as a character in his own right.
@@MidgeMarly wrote:
Rumple seems to be handing the book of spells to Regina!
The pic with Regina alone in wedding attire in front of the green screen – is she using magic?
Yes and yes, that’s what it looks like to me!
I just posted about this in another thread too, but regarding the scenes with Cora, Snow and Emma…would they show us present day FTL as well as FTL flashbacks in the one ep? Because YoungRegina and YoungSnow wouldn’t be in present day FTL, but we know they’re in the ep, so there must be flashbacks to that time. Could Snow and Emma time travel back to then and meet Cora? Or will we have present day AND flashbacks, all set in FTL in this ep? Couldn’t that potentially get confusing?
Though I guess Regina’s mother being in part of FTL when the curse hit might explain why part of it survived. Maybe she alone could produce a barrier to it, considering it was her daughter who cast it.
I’m super excited to see Dr Whale in FTL! So he most definitely WAS a doctor there too. Between that and them seemingly walking down into a crypt type environment, and then the scene with the tent and the lightening…I’m starting to think Team Frankie might be onto a winner. So cool to see he has a history with Jefferson!
Words cannot express how excited I was to see Hook in this! SQUEEEEE! 😀
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Also, Rumpel surprised me in that promo. He asks Charming what happens when someone crosses the SB boarder and seemed dismayed by Charming’s reply that you lose your memories of your old life. Didn’t Rumpel know what would happen, and wasn’t he planning a trip? In 1×21 he said to Regina, “we all know what happens when you try to leave SB” but then didn’t say what actually happens. Was he bluffing or did he not know exactly and was testing Regina? I don’t know.
I think that what used to happen when you tried to leave SB is different to what happens now. When the curse was in place, I think something physically bad would happen to you, so Rumple probably thought that once the curse was lifted, that barrier would no longer exist. The fact that it now wipes your memory clean is a new development he hadn’t been expecting.
@Josephine wrote:
It’s definitely Cora that Snow and Emma encounter. I went frame by frame through the promo. You can tell by cloak. It’s the same black cloak Cora wears in “Stable Boy” and the hair is the same even though you only see her from the back. So my theory is that she’s ruling whatever is left of the Enchanted Forest.
Bailee Madison is in this ep too though, isn’t she? Which suggests they’ll be showing flashbacks to the time when Snow was young. And we’ve seen clips of more YoungRegina too. But Snow and Emma are currently in present day FTL. And they have a scene with Cora? How does that all work together? Unless they somehow jump back in time? But doesn’t info for future eps say that Mulan and Aurora help them to find a portal back to SB? Would they ALL time jump to FTL past? Surely Aurora wouldn’t leave the time and place that Phillip is still in? Could Cora be in present day FTL, even if they’re also showing YoungSnow and YoungRegina stuff? My head hurts. Again. 😆
@Faux Pax wrote:
I’m more interested in the clip with Charming and Jefferson. SabStan’s sarcastic little laugh “can you get it to work?” Epic.
That laugh was perfect. “If you only knew…” how I’ve been trying to make a freakin’ hat that worked for FOREVER. Sorry buddy, fat chance I can fix this thing. Also loved his matter of fact, “I’m a portal jumper and you destroyed my portal.” Like, DUH.
I assume his certainty that they’re in the Enchanted Forest is because he knows that’s where Regina was sending the Wraith, yes? But he also seems pretty certain that it still exists, and Regina thought she was sending the Wraith to a land that was no more.
In other news, Dr Whale’s still a sleazy as ever, huh. 😆
Veeerrrry interesting that they lose their memories when going beyond the city limits.
I was totally intrigued by Charming asking who he was, and Whale refusing to answer. I don’t necessarily think it means he’s not from FTL though, because do we really expect Charming to know EVERY person who lived in FTL? Perhaps Whale’s real persona was a recluse, so not many people saw him. Or maybe he was in a different form, so no one recognises him now.
It’s gonna be such a relief when they finally reveal who this guy is. All the theories about him do my head in. 😆
@KalliopeKisees wrote:
@ cruel_fortuna. Its actualy the J. R. R. Tolkien symbol to be exact.
When pics of the amulet hit the internets, there was much speculation as to what the symbol was. The closest match anyone found was that it’s the alchemical symbol for arsenic, just upside down: http://epistolaryconnotations.tumblr.com/post/31540430648/omg-you-guys-i-found-it
Also… I swear there are more than one warith in FTL and that several other people were marked.
I’d have to go back and re-watch, but I swear Mulan said there were more. Obviously we only saw one of them in this ep, but I don’t see a reason why there wouldn’t be more of them roaming around.
@JeremyLaughlin wrote:
I’m going to put this out there: as someone else mentioned earlier, things were said in episodes 1 and 2 that I imagine the writers now regret. Regina’s “with a simple kiss” comment to Maleficent makes no sense coming from a woman who had previously (timeline-wise) told Belle that any curse can be broken by true love’s kiss. Now, occasionally, we’ll find reason to have to ignore these comments, but I think they’re largely contained to the first two episodes of the series. Mentioning that Maleficent attacked both the Aurora we see AND her mother may be a cover for this, or it may be simply to account for the fact that the story of “Sleeping Beauty” exists in our storybooks—meaning it must have happened pre-curse in some form—but is also now happening post-curse.
Yeah, I’m generally pretty forgiving of any inconsistency with the first couple of eps.
The Sleeping Beauty story we know: Aurora is cursed by Maleficent, falls asleep for however long after the good fairies tweak the curse, then is woken by Phillip’s kiss, then he slays DragonMaleficent and they live happily ever after.
In the Once story, DragonMaleficent isn’t slain by Phillip in FTL. It was a cool nod to the story we know that they still had her being slain by someone throwing a sword into her chest, but let’s not confuse that with actual FTL historical events. DragonMaleficent being slain was written into the story we have in books/movies in our world, it’s the story we all grew up knowing, even though that’s not how the story actually happened in FTL history. So I think that along with the traditional ending being tossed out, we can also toss out their names, meaning that the REAL, historical Sleeping Beauty story didn’t actually involve two people named Aurora and Phillip.
It’s looking like in the Once version, Maleficent had it out for Aurora’s mother and cursed her. She escaped the curse, most likely by being kissed by Aurora’s father. Maleficent then “soldiered on” not by getting over it, but by focusing her attentions on their daughter next. Maybe she didn’t intend for the sleeping curse to stick with Aurora either, she just thought a bit of history repeating would be fun times. Or maybe she did try the same thing again, and once again, good fairies intervened and made it a breakable sleeping curse instead.
Mulan asks Aurora how she came to be cursed, and she replies, “You’re not the only one who knows about sacrifice,” so there’s gonna be more to this story, and it’s gonna be good stuff.
@Dorothy wrote:
I personally think it was the Blue Fairy who got Henry. Someone in another thread posted bits of her conversation with August during The Return, and she seemed to be in on August’s plan to find the dagger-as if she already had her memories.
Yep, I think Blue was behind the whole thing.
Blue Fairy/Mother Superior knew about baby Henry.
Mother Superior planted the seed in Regina’s mind that she wanted a kid.
Regina went to Mr Gold, coz Rumple gets the babies.
Mr Gold went to Mother Superior coz she’d know of any adoptable orphans.
Mother Superior arranged for Henry to be brought to town, the only truly safe place in this world for the offspring of the Saviour to be living.Considering they’ve confirmed that Rumple didn’t have his memories until he heard Emma’s name, I just don’t see how he could have been the one who orchestrated Henry’s coming to SB by himself. But I’m pretty sure Blue Fairy retained all her memories.
Wish I’d had the chance to get on the forums before now. Reading a whole 11 page thread in one sitting is a task. They really picked the worst time for the season premiere, right when I was moving house, (the day it aired was the day I was moving my computer from the old house to the new, and I wouldn’t let my dad unplug it until I’d downloaded Once, coz I didn’t have internet at the new house yet).
Anyway…the news about the postcard leaked out a day or so before the ep aired, and I posted my theory that it was Blue Fairy who sent it. I believe she always retained her memories, so she’d be able to keep tabs on Emma, and potentially orchestrated events in her life, including her meeting Henry’s father, who I believe MRJ will end up being. I hadn’t really subscribed to the theory of Bae being Henry’s father. but this theory I cooked up pretty much sold me on the idea. I think that Blue was in contact with Bae in our world, told him about his papa’s curse, and that if he wanted to help break it, he had to do what she said, (contacting Emma). I think she told him that when the time came and his papa’s curse was broken, she’d send him a sign, and they could come and be reunited. That’s what the postcard was, the message that the curse was broken, and the location he has to come to.
I’ve never been completely sold on the idea that August knew Bae, though there’s a decent argument for it, so it could very well end up being the case. I think August is still a chunk of wood in SB at this point in time though, so don’t think he could have sent the postcard. Great to hear that Eion is back on set though!
@TheGoldenKey wrote:
I’ve believed since last Feb. that Bae is Peter Pan and now Henry’s father as well. Here is my theory:
Ever since the moment Bae went down that hole, I’ve thought he might end up being Peter Pan. The moment his father didn’t follow him, he officially became an orphaned “lost boy” and if the vortex sends you were you need to go, there’s every chance it sent him to Neverland.
The more I’ve thought about it, the more I’ve come to want Peter Pan to be Henry’s father. The boy who famously couldn’t grow up became the father of the only boy in SB who could grow up. I wasn’t sure if they’d make Bae be Peter and Henry’s father though. But it’s still a possibility, and it’s currently my fave theory on the topic.
@AntBee wrote:
It’s an Aesthetic Apparatus poster, “Control and Capital” http://shop.walkerart.org/collections/posters/products/aesthetic-apparatus-poster-control-capital. If you look at it up close, it reminds me even more of Rumple letting Bae go.
There’s the vines representing the green vortex that sucked Bae in. There’s his dad’s hand that is red representing not only the Curse that has caused his dad to get the blood of innocent people on his hands, but also the deal that his dad broke despite their handshake. Finally, instead of holding onto his only son, his father would rather hold onto control and capital just like the red hand in the artwork is doing.
That poster is the thing that stuck out to me too, because of its colour, mostly. You don’t stick something that’s bright red in the middle of the scene, unless you want it to stand out. Your analysis of how it could relate to Rumple seems pretty spot on. I also think that the fact it’s got something on the inside wrist, suggests a connection to Emma, because we know they’ve said that her wrist tatt will end up having some significance.
@Faux Pax wrote:
I’m glad i’m not the only one who noticed that MRJ’s room was kind of inbetween Henry’s and Gold’s in terms of how much odd stuff he has lying around and what kind of stuff it is.
The feel is so similar between the 3 rooms that I have to think it’s not coincidence.
