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@Lil’Red wrote:
Beaman: I really think this is the Storybrooke counterpart of Hook, that a notorious pirate would be a real world antiques dealer that obtained some pieces through….questionable means. 😎
Will they really need real world aliases any more though? Especially for new characters. I know the casting calls for Mulan and Aurora had different names, which were potentially their SB names, but wouldn’t SB names be sort of redundant now that everyone remembers their real names?
Jack: He does have a swagger and since Jack is going to be a criminal: I could see it.
Have they said Jack will be a criminal? Wasn’t his casting call the one about running from his past in a land full of danger, (which screams Bae to me)? There were so many casting calls in quick succession for a while there, I may be mixed up.
About the Emma’s Ex part: I don’t want the excuse for whatever happened between them to just be, “Well gosh! He never grew up! Isn’t that just adorably forgivable?” No, it’s a cop-out! 👿
Peter Pan being Henry’s father is a theory I’ve liked for a while now, but I’d never thought of the “he can’t grow up” explanation for why he was an immature guy who treated Emma like crap. That sorta fits perfectly IMO. I wouldn’t see it as “adorably forgiveable” though. He’d still have to be held accountable for treating Emma badly. Once he began growing up in our world, he had the chance to make choices, and made some wrong ones. Just like if Bae turned out to be Henry’s father, he’d have understandable reasons for being messed up in the head and not the best guy as a result, but he’d still have to be held accountable for treating Emma badly.
Clearly, he is going to be an important character, if he’s flying back and forth.
The way you worded that, totally made me think of Peter Pan. 😉 Seriously though, obviously he’s gonna be someone integral to the ongoing storyline if he’s expecting to be called back several times during the season. With a decent sized cast and several storylines going on though, he wouldn’t likely be in every ep, even if he’s a character like Bae, they won’t necessarily have him be the focus of every ep, coz they have other stories to tell as well.
[adrotate group="5"]@AntBee wrote:
Plus, I forgot to add before that out of the 3, he maybe the only one that knows about the Dagger, which is something else I’m also very worried about in Regina finding out. The BF might know, but it’s not too clear whether she revealed that information to August or whether Bae may have met August and worked on a plan with him to get the Dagger away from Rumple.
I totally think that Mother Superior is the “little fairy” who told August all about the dagger.
Totally think she retained her memories, because she’d have felt it was her obligation to keep an eye on how things played out in their new world, and she’d have probably been the only one in FTL with the power to ward off that part of the curse.
She’d also have had knowledge of the dagger in FTL. If she was the original power, I suspect she may have had a hand in creating the Dark One curse and the dagger. Even if not, someone in her position of power would have made it her business to know as much as possible about the ultimate evil being in her realm.
We know August saw her in Storybrooke before he went to see Mr Gold. I believe that it was a case of Pinocchio tracking down BF, someone powerful who he’d known personally in FTL, someone who had helped him before, because he was at a loss about what to do next and needed advice. Lucky for him, she had her memories and some information for him.
Yes, they usually have revealed the casting announcement fairly soon after making the casting call, so that does seem very unusual that they haven’t. Of course, even if Michael Raymond-James is Jack and Bae, it seems weird that they can’t even announce the Jack part because fans are going to speculate that he could also be Bae whether they reveal that or not.
Maybe he’s Peter Pan, or maybe they want people to think he’s Peter Pan. (I suddenly feel like Vizzini in The Princess Bride.)
Whoever else MRJ may be, I’m really starting to think that he’s (also) gonna be Henry’s father. With Charming seemingly easily stepping into a father figure role, judging by set pics, especially those new pics of them play sword fighting, it would add some tension to the storyline of that newly forming relationship if Henry’s bio-dad showed up in town around the same time. Oh wow, new crackpot theory…
…Henry’s bio dad shows up and wants to get to know him. Emma tries to come between them, insisting that he’s bad news, even though Henry wants to give him a chance. Regina sees an in to get Henry back in her good graces and tries to encourage his dad being in his life. Could Henry then choose to switch sides and warm to Regina and turn against Emma? Not sure if that would be awesome in a tragic way, or just plain tragic. Would they even go there? I think my head just sploded. 😕
@slurpeez108 wrote:
Looks like PC is teaching his grandson fencing.
Aaaaannnnnnnd my heart just melted into a puddle of goo.
Glad we’re gonna get a reunion for Jefferson and Grace, too.
@AntBee wrote:
Yes, I just would have figured since he’s Lancelot that he would just automatically be a good guy, but I guess that might be the twist that he might think he’s honorable because he’s doing what a King wants him to do, but he’s really not being honorable. I hope it’s possible that he’s the one that comes along and finds Mama Charming, but unfortunately I don’t think the chances are going to be that good. It seems a lot like Jiminy’s story in “That Still Small Voice”, so not really looking good for Mama Charming right now.
My new hope is that whether or not Lancelot is the one to wound MamaCharming, that he’ll call on Merlin to help save her, (though she won’t be save-able), which would work wonderfully as a reveal for Dr Whale’s character. I’ve become somewhat hung up on him being Merlin…the more I’ve thought about it, the more I love that theory.
@Josephine wrote:
This total lack of spoilers is simulataniously fantastic and frustrating. I swore I’d give up spoilers last week, but I keep looking. The great thing is, that besides Charming’s mom with the wound, nothing much has been revealed at all. They’re doing a great job keeping all the details of the new season hush-hush.
I’ve been thinking over the last several days how it’s a bit odd that we’ve heard no casting info for Jack since the actual casting call. It’s usually not this long between casting call and casting announcement, is it? We’ve had a couple other actors cast, who everyone leapt on screaming “OMG HE’S BAE!” but so far nothing on Jack. If Jack = Bae, then I could see them wanting to keep the ID of the actor under wraps, because everyone’s dying to know who’ll play him and what he’ll look like.
Michael Raymond-James’ mystery character could be Jack of course, but again, why not just reveal that? Unless Jack is someone significant like Bae, whose face they’d wanna keep secret.
and some we had come to believe could be trusted will turn against their own kind.
The use of “some” suggests more than one, but it screams Blue to me too.
Can’t see it being August, because is he really considered trustworthy? He’s one of my fave characters and even I wouldn’t say he’s trustworthy. He was hiding stuff from the moment he rolled into town, wouldn’t reveal who he was or why he was there until he got desperate, and though he claimed to not be a liar, that was totally a lie. One of his fairytale persona’s noteworthy traits is that he lies. So I’m thinking we can rule August out of the equation for this spoiler.
Red is far too good a friend to Snow to betray them. It would have to be a seriously big twist and some seriously amazing writing to make that at all believable. Would be very surprised if they went there.
Blue isn’t squeaky clean, but I reckon it’s only those of us who waste too much time thinking about the show who have really contemplated that she could be legitimately shady. Overall on the show, she’s been shown to be on the side of good. She’s the all powerful leader of the fairies who the good guys go to for help and advice. And she’s the freaking Mother Superior in Storybrooke, which is the most trusted position in town.
But we’ve heard her say she’s on the “right” side, so if she didn’t approve of how Charmings&Co were handling things, I could see her not necessarily switching sides in the battle, but she’d start playing by her own rules.
PS. I haven’t posted at Fanforum in forever, but was on there way back in the day when it was little more than a Dawson’s Creek forum. It’s where my life of online fangirling began. Maybe I should go stick my nose into the Once forum over there some time.
Thanks for the pics!
@AntBee wrote:
Unfortunately I would agree with the theory that this maybe the episode that we find out why we haven’t seen Charming’s mom in Storybrooke because she was killed already in Fairy Tale Land. I only hope that Lancelot isn’t the person that does it like people are theorizing, but he definitely could be if he was hired by King George, since he’s a sword for hire, and season 2 is about redemption. 🙁 Of course, it may just be that his redemption has nothing to do with killing Charming’s mom, but have to do with the love triangle between him, King Arthur, and Guinevere.
That certainly looks like a mortal wound on poor MamaCharming. Ya know, this whole time I’d just assumed that Lancelot would be on the good guys’ side. If he’s a lost soul with a desire to regain his honour after being banished, I just figured he’d team up with the good guys. But now it’s looking like George may be one to hire him instead, to off MamaCharming, no less. These pictures do not bode well. 😕 Or maybe someone else kills her and then he comes along and finds her? That’s still a possibility, right?
I really hope so because I really wan to like Lancelot especially after seeing him in his leather pants,
This quite literally made me LOL! 😆 Also: WORD! 😉
As for the picture with the swing, I’ve read that it could either be Neverland or where Snow and Charming hide out. The latter is probably more likely given the tent, and because I don’t think we’ll get any shots of Neverland until episode 4.
Do we know for sure that the swing and the tent are both the same place though? The fort and swing say “Lost Boys’ house in Neverland” to me, but the tent says “Snowing’s hidden mission command point.” One of them is a structure that can be hastily set up and taken down should the need arise to move on. The other is a permanent fixture where you’d go to chill out. The settings look like different places too. The fort and swing are in a bright, sunny spot, but the tent appears to be deep in the woods.
I just wonder why there aren’t any pictures of Michael Raymond-James. I’m going to theorize, probably wrongly, that his scenes don’t take place in Fairy Tale-Land yet, so he’s someone we’ll encounter in Storybrooke first like August which might lend more credence to him being Peter or Jack or Bae or Henry’s dad or some combination of those choices.
Yeah, I’m not necessarily expecting him to be someone we see in FTL. After seeing that pic that looks Neverland-ish, I got this whole scene playing in my head where the Lost Boys are running around, trying to find Peter, who has disappeared, then they cut to a present day shot of MRJ in our world…dun dun duuuuunnnnn *dramatic episode ending* *cue next week’s promo featuring Hook*
GAH, that scene with Regina and David creeped me out! LOL Can’t wait to watch all this extra stuff in its entirety.
Cool find, thanks for posting it. I doubt they’ll make a huge deal about the reveal of his real name, but it’s one of those little things I’m curious about. Pretty sure there was an interview somewhere that mentioned that we’d find out his real name this season.
@PriceofMagic wrote:
It was Rumple’s fault that he didn’t go through the vortex with Bae but it was a moment’s cowardice, one that he regretted almost instantaneously. Rumple’s main concern about the vortex was that it would tear him and Bae apart so it’s understandable why he didn’t jump head first into it.
It’s Blue Fairy’s reaction to it that annoys me. Rumple was never cruel to Bae, if anything he was too overprotective. The Blue Fairy didn’t do anything to stop the ogre war in which children were being conscripted, Rumple did. Blue Fairy didn’t help Rumple out when he was trying to prevent Bae from being conscripted in the first place, Rumple had to do it himself which led to him becoming the dark one. For Blue Fairy to then tell Rumple that he drove Bae away after all he’d been through just seems a little off to me.This is a good point. I wonder what governs her decisions about when to interfere and when not to?
Also, did BF really expect Rumple to be all, “Oh yes son, no worries, I’ll totes jump into the whirling vortex made by the magic bean that you got from my nemesis. Sounds like a fabulous idea. Let’s merrily jump in together on the count of 3.” I mean, c’mon, BF had to know that he wouldn’t exactly be keen to go along with that plan.
Unless she was like Belle and knew that there was still some good in him, buried deep down, and she chose to believe that that side of him would win out. But I’m sure she was knowledgeable about the Dark One curse and knew how strong the power was and how it would be virtually impossible for him to just turn his back on it and trust in her powers instead.
Then there’s that great philosophical argument of whether good can exist without evil. If there is no evil, then how do we know that good is good? So if BF is the good power in the world, could she possibly need the Dark One to remain, in order for her to keep doing her thing? I wonder how the Dark One originally came to be? If BF was the “original power”, then wouldn’t it stand to reason that at one time, all the good AND evil power was contained within her? How did it split apart? Did she try to rid herself, and the world, of dark powers, and in doing so created this new Dark One being, because the power of evil had to still exist in some form, in order for there to be a balance? So maybe she needed Rumple around whether she liked it or not, so she never intended for him to follow Bae, she just wanted to save the kid from his father by separating them? If it was her doing that created the Dark One in the first place, perhaps she felt responsible for Bae’s safety and future, so that’s why she stepped in and orchestrated the whole situation that resulted in him being sent away from that world?
When the show started, I figured BF was gonna be a pretty one dimensional character. Now, not so much.
