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@A_Desperate_Soul wrote:
And I also don’t think the writers would attribute a well-known fairytale object to a character and then forget about it. Usually, when the writers give us clues, they mean something. I don’t think the writers would give Bae the magic bean, only to come back and say, “yeah but we only did that to introduce a less important character later on.” 😆
True, it would seem kind of redundant to introduce a second character who used a magic bean, now that we’ve already seen someone do it, especially considering it was a boy who used it as a means to transport himself between two places, in both the original fairytale and the Once version. Beans are a significant item from ONE famous fairytale, if people hear “magic beans”, they instantly think “Jack and the Beanstalk”. So if they didn’t want there to be an association, they could have easily come up with some other way for Bae to have opened up a vortex to another world.
[adrotate group="5"]Oh, Regina, you have officially become your mother, using the levitation trick to keep your upset child in line. SMH
That will be an interesting interview. Hmmm, I’m convinced there’s more to BF, and think she did have a secret agenda, but I don’t necessarily think it was a selfish one.
@Lil’Red wrote:
I’m trying to wrap my head around this, who else is technically a guest star with option in ONCE? Does ‘option’ just mean it has the possibility of joining main cast? If so, makes sense that’s how they’ll bring Baelfire in, then add him to the main cast NEXT season.
I think Barbara Hershey might have been referred to as a guest star for season 1 with the option to bring her back. And she’s obviously a character that they always had plans for, beyond one guest starring episode.
The name Jack certainly does scream, “guy who used a magic bean,” and the stuff about fleeing a dangerous land fits too, so it wouldn’t surprise me if this is Bae. “Charismatic, sexy and mysterious, but also loyal and kind,” doesn’t exactly sound like the horrible guy that Emma has led us to believe was Henry’s father though. And I’ve always imagined Henry’s father was a bit older than Emma, so the age wouldn’t really fit for that either. So if I’m gonna go with this Jack character being Bae, I’m also going with Bae not being Henry’s father.
I remember seeing some sorta gossip about this pair a while back, don’t think it was long after Hat Trick aired. Nothing was confirmed though. Good luck to ’em if it’s true. She’s done well, he’s pretty, (and so is her ex-fiance FWIW, girlfriend has good taste). 😉
@AntBee wrote:
True, his name could be Peter, but that could also be a clue that he was a married man when he was with Emma,
Oh I totally think that Henry’s father was a married man when he got Emma pregnant. That’s why I can’t let the Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater thing go, because that character had a wife, and another woman too. So I’ve wondered for ages if Henry’s father would end up being named Peter, and if they wanna introduce Peter Pan, well then, the name fits.
My problem with Bae being Peter Pan is that I would feel like it’s a retcon if he went to a world that did have magic. Now if they had covered Bae being Peter Pan last season or at least made references to the possibility that where Bae landed might have taken in some place magical once Rumple failed his part of his bargain, I wouldn’t think of it as a major retcon. However, I don’t feel that they did,
I guess I wouldn’t really see it as a major retcon.
Blue Fairy: In this world, yes. You see, what ails your father is specific to our realm. His powers do not belong here. You must go where you can escape this wretched curse.
The way I took that was she’s saying that they have to go somewhere where Rumple’s powers are null and void. That’s the whole purpose of going to another world, it has to be one without magic, so that’s where the bean will send them. But with no Rumple going through the hole, who’s to say that the purpose of going through the hole was now the same, so who’s to say it sent Bae to that non-magical world? Obviously Rumple believed that’s where he went, and he may very well have, but if he didn’t, I don’t think it necessarily contradicts what we’ve been shown.Not only that, I’m not sure how he would be able to realm jump, I guess because he’s Peter Pan?
Yeah, Peter Pan could fly from Neverland to our world and back.
There’s a lot of other details like that at least for me that wouldn’t quite work out if Bae was Peter Pan. Assuming that he’s Peter Pan and also Henry’s father, I guess I really haven’t seen any clues that point to Emma being his Wendy at all.
Maybe Wendy is the wife he cheated on when he got with Emma? I know it’s not a nice thought for them to corrupt Peter and Wendy’s relationship like that, so they may not go there, but hey, it’s a theory. Because we know the story of Peter Pan and Wendy in our world, that means it happened in the past, so Emma couldn’t be Wendy.
Or did he decide to leave Neverland and come here, and that’s when he met with Emma? How much time would he have spent in Neverland overall because I don’t want him to be that much older than Emma or maybe that much younger still? Why did he leave Neverland since it seems like a perfect place for a Lost Boy?
He could have gone back and forth between worlds, not ageing, for centuries. Then one day he got on Hook’s bad side, and decided that for his own personal safety, he’d be better off staying in our world where Hook couldn’t get him. So he fled here, stayed here, began ageing, and was just the right age to run into Emma.
I know that they could answer all those questions, but I don’t know it just seems more straightforward and easier just to have Bae have landed in our world and end up in a similar situation like Emma was in being kept in care and putting up walls because of his abandonment issues that way if he is her true love, they’ll have a lot in common that no one else does.
My Peter Pan theories doesn’t necessarily depend on him also being Bae, I’m not a hard and fast subscriber to any one theory right now, just kinda juggling ideas around. The more I think about it though, the more I like the idea that Peter Pan is Henry’s father, and Bae is Emma’s true love who she hasn’t met yet.
@hjbau wrote:
I think one of the issues about the father being Peter Pan is that the producers didn’t know they were going to get permission to use Peter Pan. Though i guess they knew they could work something out if they really wanted to.
In order to use Peter Pan & Co, they needed to pay a licensing fee and establish a contract with the hospital that owns the rights. Kitsis and Horowitz likely figured that should the show be enough of a success to get a second season, that they’d then be in a position, both with their influence and finances, to do those things. So as long as they didn’t need to use those characters in their first season, it was a pretty safe bet that if the show survived to the point in the story where they would want to use those characters, they’d be able to sort out the legalities and make it happen. So there’s really no reason why they couldn’t have had a role for Peter Pan etc in mind from the beginning.
@Lil’Red wrote:
For a moment there, the spoilers had me wondering if Baelfire would be Peter Pan (a theory that seems like even more of a cop-out to the Rumple storyline – but I digress).
What originally made me wonder if Bae could be Peter was when he went through the beanhole. It was meant to send them somewhere that Rumple’s magic would be neutralised. But when Bae went through alone, he essentially became a Lost Boy, so perhaps the beanhole sent him somewhere else that would better suit his needs. But I’m not married to that theory coz I also liked your beanhole going to Beantown theory.
The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of Peter Pan being Henry’s father. I’m still hung up on Emma’s mention of pumpkin pie in the story about him, (and then they had Henry bring her a piece of pumpkin pie too, so it wasn’t just a throw away line), and how it could relate to Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater. And there’d be a certain delightful irony if Peter Pan, the boy who couldn’t grow up, (until he stayed in our world one day and began to age), fathered a child who became the only boy in Storybrooke who did grow up.
It would be a nice parallel if we see the mother/daughter stories of Snow and Emma in Storybrooke and Cora and Regina in FTL. Trying to figure out how that would play into us also apparently getting Sleeping Beauty in ep 1. Maybe Cora was buddies with Maleficent and that’s how Regina met her?
@hjbau wrote:
About Dr. Whale being Prince Phillip. Why would they have a casting call if they already had the actor that was going to play him? That doesn’t make sense to me.
Well the news about that casting call having gone out, came at a time when casting for ep 1 should have already been completed. And from memory, it wasn’t formatted in the same way that the casting call reports usually are, it was more like, “so we hear they’re casting Prince Phillip for ep 1” instead of the standard:
[PRINCE PHILLIP] Physical description & character bio.
Struck me as being a bit odd the first time I read it, so was wondering if it was actually a legit casting call, or if it was more like just a leak of info about the first ep storyline.@mia wrote:
Seemed strange to me as well. Well, he must be confused after all thy all just “woke up” … It’s kind of hilarious how we’re already theorizing, speculating, etc. even though just the first few days of filming began and a few photos are up. 😆
We’ve been so spoiler deprived for so long. I feel like an addict finally getting a fix, so my brain has gone into overdrive.
