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We’ve seen that Belle, as strong as she is, has very human insecurities. She tends to be quiet until she hits a breaking point and then calls people out on things–but she’s genuinely nice and doesn’t want to hurt people, even those who have hurt her. (Except when she’s Lacey…which is an interesting aspect they really haven’t explored enough.)
I think though that she IS going to doubt whether she did the right thing. Unless Hook fills her in on the details (which I’m hoping we’ll get some indication he does), she made an extreme decision (not the first time with her) based on incomplete data. She’s going to question whether she should have given him another chance, whether he’s okay outside of Storybrooke (she still loves him, after all), whether there was any other way to deal with his lies and murder attempts, whether there was some better explanation. She’s going to question whether she could have stopped him earlier–and this is where there’s some rich character exploration they could do–or if she was somehow enabling him to get worse (the line about “I lost myself trying help you find yourself” points that way). She IS going to blame herself for not believing the truth sooner, and she’s going to blame herself for anything negative that comes of the decision she made (including her own shattered heart).
It took a lot of strength for her to give up her happy ending to stop Rumple, and she deserves all the praise for that. But that doesn’t mean she’s going to be confident or happy about the choice she made. She’s not a doormat, but her strength comes from her ability to care for and sacrifice for others. Her insecurities will still be there even without Rumple in the picture, and possibly amplified by her grief.
I agree with all of this. Belle blames herself when things go wrong even when they’re not her fault. I’d be very surprised if she’s not blaming herself for Rumple’s actions and not noticing sooner, even though Rumple kept it so well hidden from her that there was no way she could’ve known what he was up to.
She is going to worry about whether or not she did the right thing with banishing Rumple because she does still love him and she can’t just switch those feelings off. (Also, Rumple was the only one who seemed to spend any time with her outside of using her for “research) Belle is probably going to feel lonely without Rumple and upset that the man she loved could be so secretive. If none of the other characters (preferably regular but recurring will do) show any support or comfort towards Belle, then they really are self-absorbed. Even a thank you would suffice especially from Hook and Emma since Belle single-handedly saved his life.
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Keeper of FelixMarian willing to give up Robin for his happiness should’ve counted as an act of true love on her part which should’ve thawed her frozen heart. Marian would’ve saved herself but instead they made her a millstone which is exactly what she didn’t want to be. The “Poor Regina” schtick is really getting old.
Roland is just getting to know his mother. Right now, is it true love? I don’t know how mother and child bond because I’m not a mother. But I know mothers love their child upon birth, but do children? It might be that Roland’s feelings–right now–aren’t strong enough and they DID try, but off screen.
The only thing with this though is, if this were the case, why did Emma and Henry’s kiss work in season 1? Henry didn’t know Emma that long and they were only really getting to know each other.
I think the answer is as you say RG “Plot!”. They needed Marian to provide angst for OQ and she couldn’t do that if she saved herself or Roland saved her.
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Keeper of FelixSurely Marian willing to step aside if Robin chose Regina was an act of true love on her part for Robin and his happiness? Theoretically that should’ve cured Marian’s frozen heart.
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Keeper of FelixWhy is it I suddenly picture Ursula ripping out someone’s heart in order to control them and they just drop down dead instead because heart control doesn’t work in the land without magic and then Rumple and the other two QoDs are just in stunned silence?
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Keeper of FelixPerhaps Blue is actually the black fairy and she was just trying to pull the “it wasn’t me, it was my evil twin” card?
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Keeper of FelixHello everyone
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Prepare yourselves. CS fans will say his heart got darker because of all the crap Rumpel made him do. Saint Killy cannot be tainted, dearies. Havent we all learned that by now?
Regina made Graham do a load of bad stuff yet his heart was still bright red with no dark spots. Rumple made him do it is not a valid excuse really.
I still think Hook had more free will than he let on. Until last episode where Rumple was actively puppetting Hook, and Hook came across as a stilted version of himself (it was a clever scene, Colin had to act as Hook being controlled by Rumple trying to play Hook), Rumple wasn’t actively controlling Hook. Yes he had his heart, but he wasn’t puppetting him. Thing is, as we saw with Graham in the season 1 flashback where he helps Charming to escape, a person can still make their own choices when they are not being actively controlled, the threat of having their heart crushed is what keeps them in line.
Rumple outright told Hook he was going to kill him anyway when the time is right. Knowing this, where is the incentive for Hook to toe the line. He’s going to die anyway yet Rumple couldn’t crush his heart until a specific point. We never saw Rumple actively controlling Hook through the heart until last episode (even then Hook tried to alert Emma to something being wrong), Rumple basically just says “Remember I’ve got your heart”. Why did Hook not make things as difficult for Rumple as possible knowing he was going to die anyway and that Rumple couldn’t kill him until a specific time.
Hook hatted the fairies of his own free will. He may not have wanted to do it, but he wasn’t forced into it through heart control. My guess is Hook rationalised it as by filling the hat up with the fairies, it meant Rumple was less likely to try and hat Emma.
I’ve been a bit unimpressed with CS this season. RumBelle are my OTP on the show and that isn’t going to change but I was kind of rooting for CS in 3B, now I’m not. I remember saying I got an SF vibe from the premiere but I liked the CS hug after Emma nearly died but then I started to dislike Hook around the time of the Apprentice when he tried to blackmail Rumple but then ended up getting his fingers burned (ha!) when Rumple blackmailed him back. I’ve worked out why my feelings on CS are so over the place. I actually prefer CS as a friendship pairing rather than a romantic pairing. I never really understood why there was so much hate for CS before, but thanks to OQ now I do. Realistically, CS would not work as anything more than a short term fling because there are major issues there.
Hook is too obsessive, too secretive and too “don’t you worry your pretty little head about it” for Emma, an independent mother with trust issues, to stick with him romantically long term. They’ve had to change Emma’s character to make it work. That is what the missing year was: a plot device to a) allow Henry to catch up with Jared Gilmore age wise, and b) to make Emma more receptive to Hook’s advances. Season 1 and 2 Emma wouldn’t stand for his crap. 3A Emma said she chose Henry over both Hook and Neal. 3B Emma was in an emotionally vulnerable place after finding out that not only were all the happy memories she had of raising Henry a lie but that Walsh, the guy she let into her and Henry’s lives and trusted was a flying monkey. Then whilst she’s still dealing with that, Neal died in her arms. Emma would not have been in the right emotional state to go diving into another romantic relationship. She relied on Hook in Neverland, he was a valuable ally, and when she was dealing with the crap in 3B, she needed a friend to trust. Hook kind of took advantage of her, constantly pushing her for romance.
Hook is obsessive about the people he cares for in his life. He turned pirate because of his brother’s death, he sought revenge on Rumple for centuries because of Milah’s death, now he’s focussed his obsession on Emma. Like I said above, Rumple wasn’t actively controlling Hook when he hatted the fairies, but if Hook felt the choice was between hatting the fairies or Emma going in the hat, well goodbye fairies was the better option. Pan wasn’t that far off the mark when he offered Hook the deal to leave Neverland with Emma. Pan misjudged the bond between Emma and Henry which meant Emma wouldn’t leave without him. However, had it just been a random kid that Pan was after and the Nevengers were trying to rescue, I have no doubt that Hook would’ve taken Pan up on his offer.
Hook only cares about himself and Emma. When Henry said he never liked Hook, Hook only cared about the fact that Emma said they were “together”. Baring in mind that Hook had been sent to fetch Henry so Rumple could take him and Belle out of Storybrooke forever, Hook probably thought Christmas had come at once. He gets Emma all to himself.
Hook is keeping so many secrets from Emma, about his past, about the missing year, what Rumple had him do, etc. Why is Emma not asking him about it? If she is letting Hook near her child, she needs to know what sort of man he is and, with Storybrooke’s record, if there is anyone from his past likely to come back and cause trouble.
Hook’s whole “I’m a survivor” spiel is troubling. Not only did he dismiss Emma’s valid concern that all the men she has cared about died, he basically said to her “Don’t worry your pretty little head about it because I’m a survivor”. He nearly had his heart crushed, and it was literally only thanks to Belle that he didn’t, yet his words to Emma are “I told you so. I’m a survivor”. Also being a “survivor” is not necessarily a positive thing in the sense of how far would Hook go to survive because he’s “a survivor”. Hook mentioned he did Pan’s “dirty work”. What work does Pan consider “dirty work”? If Hook had the choice between saving himself or letting Cinderella’s mother and baby class perish, what would he choose? Would he let them die because he’s “a survivor”?
Emma’s date dress is evidence of how much her character has changed to accommodate CS. Season 1,2 and 3A Emma would never wear something in that colour. When she was wearing Hook’s jacket she was more Emma than without it. Emma’s worn dresses before that exuded how strong and independent she was. That date dress was too virginal in style. It didn’t suit her.
Sorry for the rant.
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Keeper of FelixI agree RG. Rumples overall plan to separate himself from the dagger isn’t evil in itself. It’s the methods he was using that weren’t above board. They really needed to show Rumple’s motivation in show for why he was doing what he did. It actually makes him more sympathetic when you know WHY he was trying to separate himself from the dagger NOW. Unfortunately a lot of Rumple’s kinder human moments got cut so Rumple came across quite power mad this season.
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Keeper of FelixWhat i’d like to see is that Regina isn’t as responsible for her decisions as we think.
I disagree. I think it would be a bit of a major cop out if the writers pulled the “It wasn’t Regina’s fault” card. Not only does it takes away her culpability, but it also diminishes her redemption and character growth. Turning Regina into a “poor little victim” for her entire life is a huge disservice to the character.
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Keeper of FelixWait. We didn’t see Kristoph. Which means something could easily have happened to him. I remember thinking during the episode that something happened to him.
Kristoff is alive and well and was about to marry Anna in the final Frozen scene. Anna and Elsa were on their way to the wedding.
You know what I don’t get. During all the seasons, we’ve established that true love’s kiss doesn’t just mean husband/wife, and includes a lot of son/mother (also, nobody ever seems to mean to break the curse while kissing). Robin may not feel true love for Marian any more, but surely Roland does? He could’ve easily saved his mum surely.
Marian didn’t necessarily need TLK. “An act of true love will thaw a frozen heart”. TLK is not th only act of true love as the Frozen movie proved. It could be argued that Marian “releasing” Robin to be with Regina was an act of true love on her end as she wanted him to be happy even if it wasn’t with her.
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