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If I may ask, is there anything behind-the-scenes that could cause Sean to leave? I mean, while a lot of the MRJ drama was denied, it made a lot of noise (certainly a lot more than the “Sean assaulting a make-up artist” rumor) at the time.
We don’t know, but both Matt and I suspect there might be something. I highly (highly!!) doubt the rumors of sexual harrassament are true but I think it’s either 1) Sean’s dissatisfied with his role/amount of screen time (he would’t be the first one) 2) budget cuts at ABC (just look at what happened this past month with Castle) or 3) he had a fallout with someone.
The sexual harassment rumours are completely untrue for the fact the makeup artist herself that the rumours were about came out in Sean’s defence. Also Lana Parilla, who was cast in the “knight in shining armour” role in the rumour, came out and said nothing of the sort had happened.
As for the other 3 more likely possibilities.
1. Sean being dissatisfied with his role- Robin holds no real importance in the story, he’s just there to prop up Regina’s character instead of existing as his own character. It’s not the first time an actor on this show has spoken out about their lack of story (Michael Socha). If the actor has to spend time away from their family, they at least want it to be worthwhile, not just standing in the background.
2. Budget cuts- Cutting Robin would make sense to save money because of the fact he has no real impact on the story.
3. Fallout with Someone- This could feed into 1. Either it’s A&E over the lack of screentime or it’s one of the “big” cast members like JMO, Colin, RC, Ginny, Josh, or Emilie. However, considering Robin has nothing to do with RumBelle and doesn’t share scenes with them, I think RC and Emilie are unlikely. It could also be that Sean disagreed with the direction the story went in eg, Robin is expected to forgive Zelena after what she did to him.
There is a fourth option though.
4. Robin was killed off so the WickedSisters storyline could continue without reminding the viewers what Zelena did to Robin. The writers need Regina to be in a certain headspace and they can’t do that with Robin around to keep her happy.
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Keeper of FelixIf this plot had anything to do with Nealfire, then sure. But it doesn’t. It’s about destroying magic and NYC has nothing to do with that. Unless MacGuffin
How much you want to bet that since Neal was all about anti magic, they will sudden put some MacGuffin on his apartment, that he always had that could destroy magic, bc whatever, LOL.
And it will be another way to demonize him even more.
I don’t think Neal despised magic, he just hated what it did to his dad. Kind of like how alcohol isn’t inherently bad but some people have real problems with it and it would be better if they stayed off the stuff. Neal even used magic himself in season 3 more than once.
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Keeper of Felix@sciencevsmagic Thanks for the link, that was hilarious. If only we could get a scene like that in the actual show lol.
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Keeper of FelixHenry going to New York makes sense because that’s where his dad used to live. Question is: do they acknowledge that fact or just try and brush it under the carpet?
Also New York is know as “the city that never sleeps” so maybe that has some relevance?
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Keeper of FelixAt best, some other character will have the same tattoo because they got it as part of a group thing and Robin was part of the group. However, this leads to the unfortunate implication that Robin was never “the man with the lion tattoo” that Regina was supposed to end up with so the show has wasted our time for the past 2.5 seasons and Regina will just move on to the new guy.
IMO (because I would hate for something I say to be misinterpreted as me trying to peddle something as “official fact or proof” or “officially true”), I don’t see how Regina can end the series as part of a couple without it looking like she moved on from Robin awfully quick. Considering he was supposed to be her “soul mate”, we know we’ve got a season 6 but season 7 is not guaranteed, how can Regina move on from the love of her life within the space of one season which, considering the two arc model we’ve been getting, covers a week or two at most generally timeline wise, when evidence proves that it takes Regina decades to get over the death of her “true love”.
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Keeper of FelixWill we get to see what happened to Lily and Maleficent and who Lily’s dad is?
HOROWITZ: Next season. Oh yeah, we’ll have plans. You’ll see, hopefully they’ll be great.
KITSIS: I’ll say this, we hear the fans. We know what stories you feel like we’ve dropped, and we’ve got an episode for you next year.
HOROWITZ: We’ve got some plans to try to address many of those things next season.
I’ll believe when I see it
Probably find it’ll all be answered through dialogue rather than shown.
Snow: So Emma, how’s Lily and Maleficent?
Emma: Fine. Lily wrote to me and said she found her dad. They’re all living as one big family now.
Snow: Great! And Belle, how’s Will?
Belle: OMG! You’re actually talking to me without wanting something in return! Will’s fine, he went travelling and found his true love! It still begs the question what he was ever doing with me but he and Anastasia are back together so the fans don’t riot.
Snow: Good. So Emma, have you and Hook picked out wallpaper for your house?
Emma: What are you on about?
Snow: Well every season has got to be about CaptainSwan drama, I just thought I’d make myself somewhat relevant. By the way, Belle, you can go off-screen now since you’ve served your exposition role.
Belle: Okay. Rumple and I will go and enjoy some happy time together before we’re required to be back onscreen and fighting again. Seriously, there’s no reason for him to do half the stuff he’s made to do other than it makes him look like a bad guy in comparison to Hook.
Emma: Hey, don’t go hating on Hook!
Belle: Emma, you didn’t even like him until Neal was dead. You didn’t even choose him. You ended up with him because your choice was taken away.
Emma: Yeah well….Shut up!
Regina: Belle does have a point. Hook didn’t even get a redemption arc. He was suddenly considered a good guy just because he wanted to get in your pants. My redemption arc took me longer than two seconds.
Belle: At least your redemption arc stuck. Rumple’s back and forth like there’s no tomorrow.
Regina: Yeah well Rumple has to look bad to make Hook look good because Hook can’t do that on his own merits. Anyway, you’d best get going before Rumple has to carry out some illogical nefarious plan.
Belle: Bye guys!
Emma: You could’ve supported me Regina!
Regina: Don’t have a go at me! It’s alright for you. You’re boyfriend gets to come back through some hand wavey plot device whilst mine lays cold in the ground and leaves two children fatherless.
Emma: As if you ever cared about the kids!
Regina: How can you say that? The only reason Robin ever met Hades is because we followed you to rescue Hook because you were too selfish to let him go which actually was the entire reason we ended up in the situation in the first place because you were stupid enough to turn him into a DO to begin with. How many times does the guy have to tell you to let him go before you get the hint?
Emma: Yeah, well…. I let him go in the underworld!
Regina: And you couldn’t have done that the first few times he asked you so that we could’ve avoided this entire mess?
Emma: We’re true love!
Regina: Really? Because there’s a lot of signs pointing to the opposite.
Snow: I’m just going to leave you two to sort this out by yourselves.
Emma: You know what, Regina. I don’t have to listen to this!
Regina: That’s it Emma, run along to Hook. Heaven forbid you remember you have a son.
Emma: Don’t bring Henry into this!
Regina: When was the last time you spent time with Henry that didn’t revolve around Hook in some way.
Emma:……….Shut up Regina!
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Keeper of FelixGuess Robin Hood is really dead for good then. He basically functioned as Regina’s bag holder so it’s not like he impacted the story in any meaningful way, he even disappeared for several episodes this arc “in the woods” to look after the baby, Sean has gotten hate from SQers who think Robin stands in the way of Emma and Regina being together. Maybe Sean decided enough was enough. I can’t see the show taking time out to do a Robin Hood backstory when he is dead present day because nobody really cared about him the first time because he was written as an attachment rather than a character in his own right. He could appear in a flashback to another character but I doubt he’s going to get one of his own at all after this episode.
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Keeper of FelixIt was obvious Robin was going to be the one to die because in the promo for this week’s episode, it had him telling Regina that he wanted a future with her. That is always the kiss of death. Planning a future is to tv shows what saying “I’ll be right back” is to horror movies. “It’s the pre-cursor to death.
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Keeper of FelixIt seems that A&E really miss the stories and focus of Snow & Charming. Maybe it is true that they’re actually serious about more of them in S6, and it won’t be just words. Sounds like their plan to get them back into action again.
Maybe next season there is an arc or two about them.
Doubtful. It’ll all be about CS, Hook’s man pain, Emma’s walls, how Emma can’t imagine a future without Hook, how Hook knows Emma is the one, how CS is going to live their lives together. Meanwhile, Henry sits quietly in a corner waiting to be relevant to the plot because Emma doesn’t pay him any attention despite him being her son because all she cares about is Hook.
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Keeper of FelixNo, im describing one season of 13 episodes, not 2 arcs
But that’s what I’m saying. We’re essentially getting that now. Neverland arc was 11 episodes. Oz arc was 11 episodes. Frozen arc was 11 episodes. QOD arc was 11 episodes. Dark Swan was 11 episodes. Underworld arc is 11 episodes. The only difference between what you’re saying and what we’re getting now is that we’re getting two “seasons” in one year.
I think the problem has more to do with the fact that the arcs have little to no connection to one another instead of one arc builds the other and everything is connected and builds ONE LARGER STORY.
I agree. Also they don’t flesh out the arcs they have beyond basic plot. A good example would be the Neverland arc
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