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Rumple becoming the DO again and going to the underworld to rescue Bae is the ONLY reason the writers can give to explain Rumple’s actions in the finale and for it to be in-character. Any other excuse and the writers have just basically shot their most complex character in the head.
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Keeper of FelixApparently the bedroom RumBelle were in was supposed to be at their house. However, that makes completely no sense. We saw their bedroom in season 2 and it was much bigger than the one they were in in Swan Song. Even if you said they redecorated, it still wouldn’t work because the whole layout of the room is different eg the windows and doors (stuff which can’t just be moved around.) It also doesn’t make sense that they would just be in a different room in the house because honestly who sleeps in a different bedroom when their bedroom is just down the hall?
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Keeper of FelixThe show needs to give the characters some happy down time. At the minute, they’re all lurching from one crisis to the next, and what should be heartbreaking moments lose their power because it’s just one bad event in a long conga line of bad events.
I’m a big fan of RumBelle but even I’m starting to get bored of the cycle of events they’re forced to endure every season. Is it so hard for the writers to let RumBelle be happy ONSCREEN for an episode or two before they’re split apart yet again through some plot device. Rumple isn’t stupid, he should know that lying to Belle isn’t going to end well for him, yet the writers force him to do so every single season and it’s ridiculous that he never seems to learn that this isn’t the best idea. He learnt that lesson in season 2 when he was honest with Belle about Baelfire. The repeated Rumple lies plot also makes Belle look bad because she keeps falling for it again and again and keeps giving Rumple chance after chance. If RumBelle are happy they’re off screen, if they’re unhappy that is all their screentime (what little of it there is) is dedicated to.
Emma seems more upset over Hook’s death who she only loved for months rather than Neal’s death who she loved for years. Neal should’ve been given the send off he deserved not just ignored. This show lost it’s way after 3A.
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Keeper of FelixThat seems incredibly rude, even for Adam.
Adam needs to learn that if fans take the time to tweet about the show, even if they’re criticising the direction it has gone in, don’t act like a spoiled brat.
It’s the fans that are keeping Once alive at the moment. If you piss off the fans, your show is in real danger.
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Keeper of FelixShould we expect him to continue to be a problem for our heroes then?
Kitsis: I think the best part about Rumple is we don’t know what he’s going to be. He’s either going to help us or hurt us, and at this point, we don’t know.AKA: “Guys, we’re just making this up week to week. Stop trying to guess because even *we* don’t know!”
You’re right. A&E should know because Rumple is a fictional character they are writing. If they don’t even know then they’re basing what he does on how they feel at the time rather than based on a character arc developed over months. They could have him dance on Baefire’s grave just because they feel like it despite such a thing making no sense whatsoever. Same thing with RumBelle. They’re having Rumple lie repeatedly to Belle for no good reason.
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Keeper of FelixI’m glad we have a long break from Once. We used to dread the hiatuses, now we welcome them with open arms. How times have changed.
The “heartbreaking” moments on this show are losing their power because there is always something going on. The characters lurch from one crisis to another, there is no quiet episode where the characters can just go about their lives, it’s all just noise.
Whilst JMo acted her socks off over Hook’s death, it seemed a bit weird that when Neal died, who she admitted in Neverland that she’d never stopped loving and we’re talking 12 years, she didn’t bat an eye. Hook’s dead, whom she’s only “loved” for a few months at most and she is suddenly marching into the underworld to get him back. It’s ridiculous.
Just had a thought. Emma stabbing Hook seemed very reminiscent of Buffy stabbing Angel including the sudden redemption (Angel got his soul back just as Buffy stabbed him). What if, like Buffy, Hook isn’t in “Hell” but in Once’s version of heaven, ie his “heroic” sacrifice got him sent to the good place. When Emma and co bring him back, like Buffy’s friends did to her, they’re actually dragging him out of heaven?
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Keeper of FelixOh, shoot! I just thought of something! This idea is <em class=”d4pbbc-italic”>definitely going <em class=”d4pbbc-italic”>nowhere, but, y’all know what <strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>Liam is short for right? Wil<strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>liam!!!
I’ll just, let that one sink in.
Are you suggesting Will is Hook’s brother?
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Keeper of FelixLiked:
Regina trying to make Hook see sense and Hook calling Regina out for her past misdeeds- It’s about time someone recognised the fact that Regina WAS the evil queen for quite a while. I like the fact that Regina also recognises the fact from experience that being consumed by revenge isn’t good. HookedQueen would make so much more sense than CaptainSwan.
Rumple lying to Belle in order to save her- it works two-fold. 1. He doesn’t want her to know what is about to happen to him, he wants her to be happy. 2. He knows that if she found out, she would try to save him and he doesn’t want to put her at risk. Rumple is sacrificing the last few hours he has to spend with the woman he loves in order to save her.
Zelena looking at colour charts to redecorate Regina’s office- Zelena has been one of the highlights of 5A. If the writers hadn’t made her so unlikeable in 3B and season 4, she would easily be one of the top 10 characters on the show.
Hook’s sacrifice- Emma stabbing Hook accompanied by the music was well done. Plus we got to see Emma in her red jacket again.
The RumBelle reunion- RumBelle happiness is so rare because inevitably it doesn’t last longer than a few minutes.
Mixed:
Zelena- Whilst Zelena can be amusing “I’ve decided to grant myself sole custody”, revealing her grand plan to OQ about how she was going to raise her daughter to become “wicked” was idiotic.
Regina in the EQ flashback- Whilst seeing the EQ is always good, if only to see how far Regina has come, the flirty posturing and touching was a bit much especially when it makes no sense whatsoever. How did Regina even know that some random barman was Hook’s father.
Snow giving up hope- on the one hand, it does make sense that Snow wants to spend time with her family instead of with her nose in a book. However, Snow claims she hasn’t given up hope (that they can save themselves) so what was she planning to do if not actively try to find a way to save themselves? Just sit around and hope for the best?
Regina said they’d be people in the underworld unhappy to see her and Rumple- Has Regina forgotten the scene in this very episode when Rumple said he’d already been to the underworld? He already knows that.
Emma’s upset over Hook’s death- Whilst it was well acted, it’s somewhat spoiled by the fact that Emma made less of a fuss when Neal died who she admitted herself in Neverland that she’d never stopped loving. That was a love she carried for 12 years yet didn’t bat an eye over his death. She’s loved Hook for a few months yet it’s the end of the world when he dies and she’ just has to get him back.
Disliked:
Hook’s sob back story- We’re supposed to believe that Hook’s father’s abandonment of him and his brother is supposed to be a bad thing, yet we saw later that Hook and his brother became high ranking officers in the navy and were quite happy. I’m failing to see the cause and effect here.
Snow’s pandering of Hook- “It’s not his fault, he didn’t want to become the dark one” It annoys me how the characters are so willing to overlook Hook’s bad deeds yet Rumple gets held responsible for even the slightest thing. It’s hypocritical. Either both men are pardoned for their actions as the dark one or both are held accountable.
Snow’s self-centredness come to the forefront again- At one point in time, Snow gave up her daughter to save the kingdom from Regina’ curse. Now, as far as Snow is concerned, the kingdom can rot in hell so long as she and her family are okay. Hook is a danger to the town therefore, and Emma knows this, he must be stopped by any means necessary no matter how hard it is. Snow’s answer “this is the man you loved!” I don’t know why Snow is so pro-Hook but S1 Snow would’ve done what’s best for the town, not risk it all because “love”. Snow is self-centred, something S1 Snow was not. If there was a trophy for character who suffered the most character assassination over the course of the series, Snow and Rumple would be serious contenders.
Robin not firing his arrow- There’s two dark ones advancing on you, Zelena has just said you’ll soon be dead, logic dictates that you fire the arrow and get out of there as far as your legs can carry you. Regina could even pouf the two of you away. Why would you just stand there pointing your arrow, doing nothing, say “stay back” when the dark ones have no reason whatsoever to take notice of you?
Snowing doing nothing- Same as above, when dark ones are advancing on you, why do you just stand there doing nothing? At least have a go at escaping!
Same with the dwarves- though at least they had the excuse that they were surrounded. Snowing and OQ could’ve just run in the opposite direction to the dark ones.
Same with Henry- Don’t just bloody stand there! Run!
Henry giving exposition on Charron- Everyone seems to forget that we saw Charron when he was trying to take Robin to the underworld.
Emma’s “you’re scaring Henry”- If Henry wants to play in the big leagues, he’s got to learn to deal with the big stuff. The fact that Emma then takes Henry down to the place that Gold was “scaring” him about is laughable. Jared’s acting just seemed wooden this episode.
The goblet that appears from nowhere when Hook is stood in the random FTL field- it makes no sense!
Regina summons a portal tornado and it causes no damage whatsoever- The one from the premiere cause Granny’s to rip from the ground and be transported to Camelot, this tornado runs right down the street and the parked cars don’t move an inch.
Emma falling so easily for Hook’s ploy- It was so obvious.
Hook killing his father out of spite- That boy is now an orphan because of Hook.
Hook’s sudden heel face turn- He’s spent episodes tormenting Emma, threatening her and her family, belittling her, making her cry, telling her how much he’s going to hurt her, etc but as Nimue prevents her from interfering, even admitting that she couldn’t kill her, Hook suddenly sees the light. It’s ridiculous.
There were a lot of dark ones considering they only marked 12 people to take there place- I guess some dark ones only wanted the “tourist visa”
Rumple turning evil again- There is no reason for it.
Emma threatening to tell Belle- Once again Belle is being used as a pawn. Rather than telling Belle for Belle’s sake, Emma will only tell her if Rumple doesn’t co-operate. The “heroes” lack of respect for Belle is staggering. Also it is highly manipulative to use Rumple’s love for Belle against him. He doesn’t want her to get hurt, yet Emma is threatening to do just that, without any thought of what it would do to Belle, just to get what she wants. Also everyone is now in on it. Does nobody care about Belle or her feelings at all? Not to mention, knowing Hook, he’ll tell Belle in the cruellest way possible what Rumple did, so once again Belle get’s hurt, Rumple ends up alone and everyone else feels good about themselves because they got what they want.
The whole “doing it for love” shtick- It’s getting old and most of all it’s being used in really unhealthy ways. “love” should not override common sense.
Emma using Snowing’s line- TLK doesn’t work for CS so Emma should not be using a TL phrase.
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Keeper of FelixThat drop could suggest that people didn’t like what they were seeing and were actively turning the show off.
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