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Crystal Princess
ParticipantIt’s pretty dark in an existentialist way. I know there can’t always be happy endings but this is a bit much.
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ParticipantI guess that makes it a little better but still…
Is the “exciting new direction” adventures in the Land without Colour then, or something? I’m a bit confused(also “Land without Colour sounds a lot like Storybrooke :P)
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ParticipantI’m really upset because it wasn’t Ruby/Mulan and they lied about sewing the seeds in the first part of the Season, it not being a “that special episode”, passing the Russo test, etc., pretty much everything other than “There will be an LGBT relationship”.
It was kinda cute, but like it had so little build up and was in an already busy episode. It was pretty much filler. And yet another PoC got screwed over.
I’d be okay with a Polyamorous thing(her “pack”) but I doubt they’d ever go there. Which is a shame.I don't cause commotions, I am one.
Crystal Princess
Participantas a mentally ill person i just feel uncomfortable with this stuff.
I love “Crazy” villains but they can be really problematic in the way they’re presented.
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ParticipantWe don’t know, if Cruella was born evil, just that she started to do evil things at an early age. With her we got kinda the classical fictional crazy psychopath, though a lack of empathy doesn’t turn someone automatically into a crazy serialkiller. Isolating and locking her up might have been not a good choice to change her to the better. But maybe there was no way to ever change her to the better. We can’t tell. As Cruella herself said to the Author, she has no answer to the why, she just already as little girl wondered, why no just splash into the dark and have fun instead of struggling against being drawn into it. It’s not about evil being born or not in my eyes, it’s more that we sometimes just can’t explain why people do the things they do. No science, and certainly not magic, can give all the answers. As I don’t think that all what we do and how we behave is just nurture I doubt it’s all nature, let alone some higher power or fate. But of course could now say, finally the writers of the show gave their mantra of “evil isn’t born it’s made” the boot. They somewhat did that already IMO with Zelena, despite the weak attempt of a sob story for her. Not sure if the writers though realized that they did that. And it’s ironic that of all villains the villain Emma kills now is the one with no sob victim backstory (aside of Cruella she sort of killed cursed Dragon-Maleficent and nearly killed Pan). How silly is that?! Particular seeing that bringing Emma to kill Cruella was made sound like something Rumple planned to push her over the brink and get her closer to become dark. Ridiculous. Anyone around who thinks Emma burdened herself with an inexcusable guilt by killing Cruella while convinced she had to defend the live of her son? Even if Cruella was not able to take the live of another, she was not defenseless and sure no innocent bystander, she was threatening Henry. These writer so suck at writing gray. If they had it made ambiguous. Either they should not have used Cruella being killed now for this looming and likely stupid Emma-turning-probably-dark plot, or they should have given Cruella a sob victim story. Let her be a wronged child with some well meaning but still rather heartless, rigorous mother (I had rigid Prussian culture informed grandmothers, I know something about that), which somehow could have made her obsessed to safe every child in a weird way from seemingly bad mothers. So, while this was a nice change to the repetitive weak sob story they’ve given particular the female villains on this show so far, it was likely an idiotic idea in the bigger story arc at this point.
yep. it also didn’t make much sense with the Cruella we’ve been presented with thus far.
why didn’t the Chernobog go after her? why maleficent?
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Crystal Princess
ParticipantIt goes against the “Evil wasn’t born, it’s made.”
I think that’s what I liked about it, actually. It was finally something different from the same tired story.
I don’t think it does go against “Evil isn’t born, it’s made.” Cruella had that one line about when she was a little girl, deciding to “Splash around in the darkness.” To me, this means she made a choice to go dark, grooming herself to become darker. She made herself dark by her own choices.
a little girl probably doesn’t even know how to recognise darkness though. and she hasn’t really been out enough, living in a fairly sheltered place, to experience darkness and no what it is.
Like i said this concept could have worked FOR ANOTHER CHARACTER. evil in the real world most often comes from men in suits, not quirky, crazy colourful types. it’d be nice to have a villain who’s “just evil” but wasn’t someone like Cruella.
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Crystal Princess
Participantwhitewashing is whitewashing regardless of “explanation” tbh
They had to be aware of what they were doing.
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Crystal Princess
ParticipantThe juxtaposition of young and adult lily is so amazingly jarring. Knowing they’re meant to be the same character, it looks like something is wrong with Agnes’s Lily, so washed out… her complexion and features are totally different.
I just want this season to be over now tbh. It’s a trainwreck.
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Crystal Princess
ParticipantOUAT makes no sense timeline wise. most of the fairytales we know and love happened in like, the period between the 60s and 80s.
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Participantpoor cruella never stood a chance.
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