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@slurpeez108 wrote:
It’s been hinted widely in the ABC promo for 2×18 that Tamara has an agenda of stealing magic and that she’s just using Baelfire to get to SB. IF that’s the case, then there is warranted reason not to trust Tamara.
Now, that’s interesting. I’ve avoided a lot of discussion/spoilers until I got my review out, but this fits nicely with my Wraith/Her theory. It’s one of the wackier theories I’ve ever come up with for a television show, but this gives it a bit more credibility.
[adrotate group="5"][munching on an apple-cinnamon “ouatmeal” cookie…] 😀
Kat, I really wish there was a “like” or “thumbs-up” button for the forum posts.
@AngieBelle wrote:
I was just thinking how much the dynamic has changed since last season. In some ways, it has become a very different show. I know a lot of people prefer the first season. I’m a bit split on it. Last season had more structure and gave the characters more room to breathe. On the other hand, I love that they broke the curse. Another season of them not knowing who they were and Emma not believing would have driven me crazy!
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Now, in the 2nd season, we have magic in both the past and the present so there is less of that contrast and less of day to day to life. The characters have been in an almost constant course of action with the entire season taking place over just a few weeks. Pretty much everything and the kitchen sink has been thrown at them.
I’ve had similar concerns in and out this season. There have been an enormous number of story threads out there and they seem often to be disconnected or even dropped entirely. However, when I look back, they’ve done an admirable job in gauging just how far they can push and then pulling enough threads together to give me confidence they have a plan.
There is a sense of this being a three-act play this season. Act 1 – Emma in the Enchanted Forest. Act 2 – Cora. Act 3 – Neal, Greg and the season climax (?). Either of the first two could have been stretched to a full season of its own, with lots of filler. It’s what many other shows would do. However, they’ve moved the story, finished the act and left certain mind-numbing questions hanging.
That alone addressed one of my biggest fears; that they were turning this into a soap opera instead of a well crafted story. It also seems to go along with something I wrote in my blog some time ago in a review of Fringe. That OUAT does have an over-arching story, but they are making each season complete. it can stand on its own.
We’ll have to see how they wrap up this season before we can really judge. There’s a lot for them still to do.
Honestly? I would rather not see many more new characters just yet unless they are crucial to the story. Too many of our current characters are under-utilized as it is and I’d rather not get hooked on a character to simply have them disappear like we had with Cinderella or Katherine.
Jorge apparently has a new gig, so it may be hard to get him back and it sounds like Megan may have a new series so we’re in danger of losing Red, as well. Of course, they haven’t used her much lately except when they need her to sniff out a trail… 🙁
Actually, it was myself that got my wife and son hooked on the show. The most unusual thing was that I rarely invest in a new serial TV show until after season 1 to see if it’s going to be renewed. OUAT came so highly referenced that I broke that rule and have not been let down yet.
@ItachiIshtar wrote:
Yep, I listened to that commentary too. She even added “I can say that cause I’m Jewish!” I think Adam and Eddy might be Jewish themselves.
It wouldn’t be a surprise at all. The show drips Judeo-Christian thinking, and in a very positive way. Of course, that could also be due to the nature of fairy-tales, as well.
Makes you wonder how there was any red at all in Cora’s heart. And let’s face it… Rumple’s and Regina’s isn’t that pretty, either.
Wow! I’m surprised… I honestly expected less agreement. At over 1600 words, there’s a lot with which to disagree. I know my position on Cora would be where most of the disagreement would lie.
Lisa, my lack of sympathy for Cora is based primarily on personal experience. I’ve been in the position of having to chose power over what is right or love before. I’ve also had to make the choice to walk away from revenge. Those life events have very admittedly biased me in that regard. Now that doesn’t mean I didn’t feel the sadness at Cora’s death or that I was happy for it. Never! While I do believe we are all inherently fallen, I also believe that we are all redeemable. So it’s always sad for me that someone dies because of those choices. That’s very different from sympathy, though.
Nonnie, I do like your thought but there is are a couple of reasons I didn’t take that approach.
One reason is that when you look at the full spread of characters class distinctions have never been a focus on the show. Red is certainly a commoner. David was a shepherd, pretty much the lowest class in the book next to a tinker or tanner perhaps. Yet he married Snow who was a royal. The most powerful and feared character in the show was the worst sort of commoner – one branded a deserter and coward. It just didn’t strike that they would start down that path now.
The other main reason is that one of the areas that has been a repeated focus on the show has been the importance and impact of one person’s choice. This comes up over and over again since the beginning of the show. From that perspective, there’s just so much depth to explore… Cora’s choices are just out there to be made against each of the female leads in this episode. And the key moment was her choice of love or power.
Again, thanks all for such kind works. Thanks again for slogging through that jumbled beast of words! You all made my day (well, that and the fact that I don’t have to have my rotator cuff operated upon) 🙂
@MysteryKat25 wrote:
It’s a tough and delicate balance. I would like to think that most would stay away from twitter til it’s time to watch an episode but that’s not always the case.
Indeed. In the case of Fringe, I think that crowd was a bit more, well, geeky as far as things like Twitter, chats, etc. so when to clear out and when to shut up were a bit more second nature. Once is a bit broader in scope than Fringe with regard to audience, so I’d expect more casual users who might be taken by surprise by the details. Twitter had the advantage of being a handheld device.
Of course, I would have a tough time tweeting anyway… I’ve usually got my dog on one leg, my son on the other and my wife curled on the floor next to me when Once shows. I usually can’t even twitch until the show is over… 😉
